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So SJU, PC , Wichita State and Clemson were all wrong in recruiting Dawes hard just as we did. We recruited him hard, we didn’t get him so let’s not fall back on rationalizing that it’s no big deal because he’s really not that good .
So long the transfer is 4+ or higher recruit, there may be nothing wrong with this strategy.I’m pretty much resolved to the reality that our recruiting is all about:
1. Finding the under the radar 3 star and on occasion 4 start HS recruit or 2 from NYC or elsewhere and;
2. Bringing in a quality transfer or two every year.
That’s what we are at this point in time.
So long the transfer is 4+ or higher recruit, there may be nothing wrong with this strategy.
Big difference between us and Gonzaga is their head coach and ours.Works well for Gonzaga
Silky- I enjoy your posts and your sense of reality over the years. Sounds like you are really souring on Willard’s lack of recruiting acumen. Might be best to post on The Trove but are you starting to get tired of his antics and just knowing that he just does not enjoy recruiting given his introverted personality.Big difference between us and Gonzaga is their head coach and ours.
Just reply to posts as I see it. GO PIRATES !!!Silky- I enjoy your posts and your sense of reality over the years. Sounds like you are really souring on Willard’s lack of recruiting acumen. Might be best to post on The Trove but are you starting to get tired of his antics and just knowing that he just does not enjoy recruiting given his introverted personality.
Ya think? That and other reasons.
It is disheartening that we do not seem to get our main recruits each year. Especially the ones from NJ. The only thing I will point out is that except for the Amaker period and a brief period during PJs reign the top players have usually left the state. I believe that the only reason why local kids stay at SHU is because they are heavily reliant on their mothers and don’t want to leave them. In the end not getting the top players from NJ did not hurt us as Nelson and Rhodes appear to be players. Maybe that will happen again. If not it will be important for us to get some kids early next year in the recruiting process.
What gets me is people have a real understanding of the dirty recruiting when it comes to Roy Williams comments. However when it never plays a role when we lose out on a recruit, it's always been Orr's, Gonzo's, or Willard's fault.
Or when Seton Hall gets a recruit, it's never about the dirty recruiting, Seton Hall is obviously squeaky clean, LOL.
Shame when we cant get prospect's moms storage units anymore. It all boils down to Robert Brennan really screwing us. If he was around to buy a good team, we wouldnt have experienced the decline since his incarceration.
Definitely disheartening. No way to sugar coat it. What gets me is people have a real understanding of the dirty recruiting when it comes to Roy Williams comments. However when it never plays a role when we lose out on a recruit, it's always been Orr's, Gonzo's, or Willard's fault.
I personally feel Bradley is very underappreciated... right now at this stage of his career I’m not sure how much he has left... I’d keep Guzan fat far away... I would also have no problem with Altidore in the fold....
The head coach of any college basketball team is ultimately the person responsible for the team’s record and for it’s recruiting failures and it’s been that way for as long as I’ve been following college basketball. The same way coaches get contract extensions and pay raises when the program has success on the court and in recruiting and that’s the way it works and it’s not going to change. Just looking at the three coaches you mentioned Orr hated recruiting and never worked hard at it . Gonzo , once he got to coach a BE team didn’t put the effort in on recruiting that was needed plus he pissed off a lot of coaches at the better HS and AAU coaches that hurt our recruiting. As to Willard it’s not a lack of effort or emphasis it’s something someone closer to the program would have to answer why we’re striking out on so many players.