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I really wish Seton Hall would enter some type of agreement with the county to develop a sports complex in Ivy Hill Park that could help serve as the home courts/fields for our Pirates but that could also be used for county and city championships. Make it first class and state of the art all the way around.
LOL did anyone take 2 seconds to think about those tennis courts?? would be such a seton hall move to put them in like that. fantastic.
If they dont put a fence in the middle they are wasting 2 courts during matches.
They are. The artist's rendition is not complete.They must be putting a fence in between the two, but it looks like the entrance would be where the dividing fence would be. In all seriousness, I have to assume it is a careless rendering.
The one major issue that I see is that there are still no bathroom facilities in any of the fields. They really need to address that. You can't have hundreds of spectators and no bathrooms..
Clearly the artist does not play tennis...the artist was probably a student that somebody asked for a picture, any picture, of a tennis court...They are. The artist's rendition is not complete.
If you read the details of the deal with the county, you will see that SHU in entitled to a significant number of hours of field time each year, on a priority basis.Whenever you're involved in a joint project with a public entity the amount of control you have is limited and can handicap you in significant ways . Seton Hall is contributing financially to this project but is not in charge and while it may not be everything we wanted it will be better then what we have now.
It's Ivy Hill Park right? You ever hear of trees?
The school along with Essex county paid for the improvements. SHU deserves a lot of quality time using the facilities.If you read the details of the deal with the county, you will see that SHU in entitled to a significant number of hours of field time each year, on a priority basis.
In other words, the Pirates will not have to be waiting in line to use the field. And they will get all the game time and practice time they need.
I don't have the link at the moment.
Here it is: SHU gets 750 hours per year. That's significant. It's divided into units. Each unit is three hours. They get 250 units "on a priority basis, annually."
Interestingly, SHU still has to pay the county $10K each year, down from $20K. As they said in the movie, Casino: "Can you believe this cowboy bullshyt."
The link has all the details.
http://www.ecode360.com/documents/ES1525/public/189781574.pdf
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Good info thanks. As the terms of the lease indicate SH is paying $1,500, 000 are you aware of what the total cost is for the renovation and who is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of both the field and the tennis court .
1996Based on what I read it, I would assume the $1.5 million is complete cost of the softball field project, as I see no county contribution listed in agreements and that is probably the reason SHU monthly costs are being reduced by $10,000/year. Seems that county is paying for all of the cost of fixing up the tennis courts.
If you read down in the original agreement (pg 12 - Heading of: Care of Licensed Property), looks like Essex County takes care of maintenance of the property, with SHU having the option to make preperations, improvements and maintenance for individual events.
Not being critical or anything, but why not? If the facilities mean so much to you, then why wouldn't you want to ask for a tour, especially when multiple people from the school are willing to give you a tour? How is that different than being given a personal tour that is offered by SHU?I want to suggest that SHU offer tours of all the new facilities completed over the past two years. I know it's been said that anybody can request a tour. However, I know many people, including myself, who would not ask for a personal tour.
6711, I would feel very embarrassed to ask for a personal tour.Not being critical or anything, but why not? If the facilities mean so much to you, then why wouldn't you want to ask for a tour, especially when multiple people from the school are willing to give you a tour? How is that different than being given a personal tour that is offered by SHU?
Pat Lyons told me over a year ago he wants as many alums and fans as possible to take the SHU tour. It's open to anyone and everyone.6711, I would feel very embarrassed to ask for a personal tour.
I also would not want to impose on somebody and take up 30-plus minutes of their work day to walk around with me.
Hey, if they did it for softball and tennis they can do it for other sports as well. I can and should be done!Awesome idea! We all know that's a pipedream... Too many players involved in that... Catholic Church, Politicians (local, county, state), etc.
But it would be great.
I'm sure they know that and would not invest the money if the outcome would not be first class.If they dont put a fence in the middle they are wasting 2 courts during matches.
I'm no tennis expert, but it's probably more important to use those courts for practice than it is for matches. Also not positive, but I think that area of the park is kind of landlocked.
As far as the comment above about using the park to create a Seton Hall sports complex, I'm not too sure about that. It already contains the usual stuff you find in a park, including a playground and couple of fields (including the SHU softball field) used for little league. Beyond that, maybe the open space should be kept that way. Newark needs all of the open space it can get.
The other point is spot on...they should include permanent rest room facilities as part of the renovations. Not sure that it is..
Im notI'm sure they know that and would not invest the money if the outcome would not be first class.