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Harris

You guys really are funny. A few years ago when a guy named Obama was President, the Republicans were calling Obama no other than - Hitler. Obama was also displayed as the Joker. But, I am pretty sure you had no issue with those images and Obama being called that.
Hitler would be proud, all American Presidents being compared to him. Have to admit a lot of similarities of our political climate to fascism.

Harris

Two very simple questions for you.

1. Do you really believe Donald Trump will be America’s version of Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, etc?
2. Are you denying that using this type of language can lead to political violence?

Because that’s exactly what Harris is insinuating when she uses the word Dictator. I truly can’t believe any rational person could endorse that, especially after the assasination attempts on Trump and Steve Scalise in recent years.
You guys really are funny. A few years ago when a guy named Obama was President, the Republicans were calling Obama no other than - Hitler. Obama was also displayed as the Joker. But, I am pretty sure you had no issue with those images and Obama being called that.
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Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns as Rutgers AD

Hobbs is not a bad guy for cheating, sometimes things happen and we have no right to question his love life or what happens behind the scenes. Now everything after that is what makes him look like a not-so-great guy. The "health issue" was a lie, along with the fact that he substantially raised the gymnastics coach's pay and rejected anyone trying to file formal complaints. Objectively, not a great look, speaking as someone who likes the guy.

Harris

I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to comprehend that you shouldn’t call your political opponents dictators. Ditto for Trump’s rhetoric about Harris. With the amount of mentally unstable people in this country politicians shouldn’t be giving anyone fuel.
The dictator comments are Hilarious when you consider for a moment the first dictator Mussolini. He was a newspaper media guy and controlled how people would think. Sounds a little like today censorship, indoctrinating children, undermining judges, controlling the media. Biden/Harris are absolutely fascist and even trump to a degree except he's not indoctrinating children or involved in censorship but you could absolutely make a case for controlling the media and judges. From google below.

"But in the world of twentieth century dictators, Benito Mussolini was a pioneer. He created fascism, a movement that would plunge most of Europe into darkness. From undermining judges to indoctrinating children, he pioneered key tactics that other dictators would use to seize power."

A basic slogan in Fascist Italy proclaimed that Mussolini was "always right" (Italian: Il Duce ha sempre ragione).
His government expelled all opposition, including Socialist members and arrested all Communist members of Parliament.

"In Italy, freedom of the press is guaranteed by the Constitution of 1948. This freedom was specifically established in response to the censorship which occurred during the fascist regime of Benito Mussolini (1922–1943). Censorship continues to be an issue of debate in the modern era."

Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing imperialism, political violence, and war as means to national rejuvenation.[11][12] Fascists often advocate for the establishment of a totalitarian one-party state,[13][14] and for a dirigiste[15][16] economy (a market economy in which the state plays a strong directive role through economic interventionist policies), with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency).

Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns as Rutgers AD

And whatever are those issues are don't make him a bad person. This board is full of hypocrites. But go ahead and show your moral high ground. Good for all of you.
- Lying about the reason for his resignation?
- Cheating with a married woman that reports to him?
- Allegedly providing preferential treatment to that employee?
- Apparently covering up complaints from the gymnastics team of that coach?

If it was merely “an affair” why did he resign so abruptly and walk from a lucrative extension that he just signed?

Yeah, he’s a super guy…lmao
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Weird Walz has nothing to say

At some point there needs to be a line drawn.

Indeed and we'll dance around it depending on which party your rooting for.

I think intentionally mishandling classified documents, or watching your supporters breach the capital and do nothing to tell them to turn back are far worse than a DUI from 30 years ago as it relates to the qualifications for this particular job.

I think Trump has many policy arguments in his favor this cycle. I'd stick with those over the moral arguments.

Weird Walz has nothing to say

No one is.

It's the suggestion that a person can not learn from a dumb decision 30 years prior that seems off.
He's lucky he didn't hurt someone (and would not be on the ticket if he did) but it is something he can learn from and appears he did.
I don’t agree with the characterization that it’s just a dumb decision. Drunk driving is making a conscious choice to endanger the lives of others. It gets minimized too often. I hope Walz learned his lesson, but he is running to be Vice President. At some point there needs to be a line drawn.

Weird Walz has nothing to say

It’s a reflection of character, regardless of when it happened. There is never an excuse to drink and drive, let alone drink and drive recklessly. Only selfish and reckless POS get behind the wheel when they are hammered, putting the lives of others in danger.

Nobody has ever died as the result of a “falsified business record” People are killed everyday by drunk drivers. Disqualifying for any candidate for executive office.

Conversely if the Republican VP candidate had been convicted of drunk driving we’d be hearing about it non stop from the mainstream media. Yet barely a word about it when it’s a Dem.
but they make a good SHU coach right?

Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns as Rutgers AD

Sorry, I am not going to condemn a person as bad because he or she cheated on their spouse. Moreover, I won't then accuse someone else of being a cheater for having a different opinion than you. They may have done a bad thing but it does not make them a bad person. I guess because this is a Catholic school all the morality police with their noses in the air have to condemn a guy who has done a. lot of good for a lot of people and institutions.

I know what bad people are. I am glad people on this board have not run into these bad people who consider a guy who cheats on his spouse as a bad person. I wonder how many of the great people who have walked this earth will now be considered bad based upon this standard.

Let's go through some: Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr, FDR, JFK., David Petraeus I am sure there are countless of universally admired men who are now considered bad guys based upon this standard.
Why do you keep ignoring all of the other issues with Hobbs beyond cheating on his wife?

Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns as Rutgers AD

I'm not gonna condemn Hobbs for cheating. But his leaving and citing health issues and then hearing about some really bad management of the gymnastics program that looks and smells like favoritism to his Gumad sure does not look good for Rutgers and real bad for Hobbs. Feels slimy and dishonest to me, but I am sure I don't know all the facts.

Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns as Rutgers AD

yeaaa affairs definitely make you a bad guy ,what bones do you have in your closet?

people grow apart all the time but betraying trust , lying , and doing things behind a partners back absolutely makes you a bad person. one of the most upsetting things you can do to somebody.

thats not even mentioning the worse part of the scandal
Sorry, I am not going to condemn a person as bad because he or she cheated on their spouse. Moreover, I won't then accuse someone else of being a cheater for having a different opinion than you. They may have done a bad thing but it does not make them a bad person. I guess because this is a Catholic school all the morality police with their noses in the air have to condemn a guy who has done a. lot of good for a lot of people and institutions.

I know what bad people are. I am glad people on this board have not run into these bad people who consider a guy who cheats on his spouse as a bad person. I wonder how many of the great people who have walked this earth will now be considered bad based upon this standard.

Let's go through some: Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr, FDR, JFK., David Petraeus I am sure there are countless of universally admired men who are now considered bad guys based upon this standard.

Harris

Let’s just excuse him for everything he said. What about when he said the Constitution should be suspended? How many times do you have to excuse his words? Second of all, boost the American energy sector? lol government does not drill. Private companies do. Second, under Biden, the country has produced more oil in the past two years than ever was done under Trump.

You then Ignore all my other factors of why his called a dictator.
Two very simple questions for you.

1. Do you really believe Donald Trump will be America’s version of Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, etc?
2. Are you denying that using this type of language can lead to political violence?

Because that’s exactly what Harris is insinuating when she uses the word Dictator. I truly can’t believe any rational person could endorse that, especially after the assasination attempts on Trump and Steve Scalise in recent years.

Weird Walz has nothing to say

Not for anything but DWI is not a crime. Quasi-criminal at best. Trump has committed felony crimes. Your excuse of paper work crime would excuse every white collar crime that has ever occurred including Madoff. Hey. It’s only a paper crime.
Except Trump is not Bernie Madoff, and as far as I’m aware there are no victims of the “crime” he was convicted of in New York.

I can’t believe anyone would debate the depravity of drunk driving. Every drunk driver willingly puts the lives of others at risk. Especially one who drives 95 in a 55.

But hey, at least it’s only quasi-criminal, right?

Harris

Must have learned that from Abraham Lincoln.
lol. That is a fair comparison. Lincoln suspending the writ of habeas corpus with Trump wanting to actually "terminate" the constitution for what?????? oh yeah -losing the election.

I know you are kidding but just to clarify. the right to suspend the writ of habeas corpus is actually within the Constitution. The Constitution provided the that the write may be suspended in cases of rebellion.
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