Would be fun to end Villanova’s season more or less.

I’m just worried about whether these guys have any motivation left.

I suppose Coleman is still auditioning for other teams. That helps. A little.

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doctorcb12 said:

I can’t understand why there is so much negativity. There are 100 different ways the school could have handled the announcement and I guarantee someone here would have found a way to complain about it. Whether they made the announcement now, after the UCONN game, offered a signed basketball, or a free dinner with Coach Sha it doesn’t change the bottom line which is we need money to compete and like every school in America part of it has to come from the fan base. Period. A lot of schools are increasing their ticket sales to pay players so why shouldn’t we. You would think after this season people would be on board to do whatever we can to not have a repeat but all I have seen is complaint after complaint about how an email was sent. We don’t even know the amount yet. It may not even be all that much but if everyone buys in it may make a difference. We complain more than any other fanbase in regards to NIL. You really don’t see as much complaining on other boards.

If you can afford it great but if you can’t understandable but we don’t need more negativity.

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I understand what you're saying, but why should folks just be expected/shamed/coerced into constantly giving a free pass to the Athletic Department and University for lacking creativity, offering no value, etc? It's clear they are the ones shrugging their shoulders but that doesn't mean we have to.

If they want money, give us a reason to provide it to them. Once again, as they always do, they just stick their left hand out with nothing to offer in the right. In this case, they actually reach into our wallet as I can't have my season ticket unless I pay for the latest cry for help. People of this board, myself included, have offered suggestions and provided examples for months and, in some cases, years on things that could be offered to provide actual value to the fanbase. In many cases, those things cost very little or even $0. But alas, those in the position to effect said changes are either too incompetent, too uninspired, or too hamstrung to either entertain these ideas or come up with some more satisfactory ones of their own.

You know why we complain more than any other fanbase in regards to NIL (which I don't believe, by the way)? It's for the same reasons that have been mentioned above and throughout this thread - look at what this fanbase gets in return for their Pirate Blue donations and NIL donations - it's been embarassingly poor compared to all of those schools.

You reap what you sow.

When some posters write that they think an entire new team would be the answer, I shake my head because it’s just so much harder to make a reality than what those people think.

1). Any quality player will cost money. SHU will have to outbid other teams for that player. Likeliness? Not really.

2). The players that seem better are being made available by other teams because they didn’t fit in with their plan. Coincidence?

3). Really have to hope that Sha is a good enough selling point for kids to play for because when all things are equal, a coach might matter.

It’ll be an interesting off season because it’ll really tell what Sha is capable of. If he has even money, can he get 1-2 star kids to play for him?

shupat08 said:

They increased prices last season and did it in April. They scammed me then, so I am not doing shit until I see the roster this year. It is what it is.

And if Felt personally called me I would tell him this.

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What is seeing the roster going to tell you? Look at RU. If I told you we had 2 top 5 draft picks most would be talking final 4. Go back and read the board about our good gets late. Nobody said we’re going to be brutal. People dive head first into the overhype every damn year and it’s even worse when it’s with a coach they love. I think the responses to the gonzo and Sha years are very similar in that people get excited over nothings. And similar people always found the negative in Orr and Willard years. So considering we’re in the Sha hype zone I expect the overhype no matter who we bring in. You might as well just renew

SHUisNJsTeam said:

They had to know or had to see it coming though. Of course these are the same people who think our NIL situation is fantastic so there’s also that.

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None of them think it's fantastic. They are relying on donations from a fanbase that has always had mothballs in their wallets, aside from a few. When they do something to raise revenue -- and make no mistake, it's not about anything but money anymore -- more complaining.

The whole idea of fans paying players is anathema to me, for sure. At a crucial crossroads for our school's program, this pettiness has to be set aside, and enough with the threats of withdrawing financial support.

Everyone here knows the score - you don't need a formal invitation to help out financially at this point, even if it's a small amount. Everyone wants and demands a winner -- if one bad season in the last 10+ is unacceptable to you, then you have to do what supporters of every other high D1 program are being asked to do.

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doctorcb12 said:

Bingo. If everyone is going to complain at least understand the facts. Revenue sharing wasn’t even allowed last year so there would have been no point in raising ticket prices as it was not legal to pay directly to athletes

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They had to know or had to see it coming though. Of course these are the same people who think our NIL situation is fantastic so there’s also that.

shupat08 said:

Understood. But supply and demand and leverage are also things when it comes to business and the price of goods.

Right now Seton Hall basketball has no leverage and probably not much demand for them to be increasing prices on tickets.

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Come on, Pat. Holding your breath and being angry at a way to raise NIL funds is counterproductive to the results you want.

What’s the NIL giving rate of all those attorneys??? lol

cernjSHU said:

Lying to the American public about something so obvious as Russian aggression is perhaps part of a new negotiating tactic on.

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Is the American public part of the negotiating team?

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The part of Trump? Really? This is mental gymnastics. He has been clear what he is doing. He is dismantling American foreign policy, intelligence and institutions. You sit back and wait u til it’s too late. Peace?? At what cost? Empowering Putin, weakening NATO and screwing over Ukraine and the loss of US prestige and trust for our allies?

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Peace is the priority… we don’t know what the cost or the long term benefit is for that matter yet. If NATO ends up kicking in more, is that a bad thing?

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From blanket tariifs to indiscriminate firings of the newest scapegoat, federal workers, to completely relegating Congress as a powerless branch of government. This is the dismantling of the US.

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Find better candidates. If the public agrees with you then we’ll have a new President in four years.

Mrpiratee said:

As a loyal season ticket holder of over a decade who sat through most of the horrible games this season (as well as through some mediocre seasons past, as well as a few good ones) . . . You can't be serious. This might be "doing something" but it's something dumb that isn't going to make much of a marginal dent in the problem. So what's the plan -- we're going to keep hiking prices until it's like going to a Yankee or Nets or Knicks game, where you can't afford to bring your kids or grandkids anymore, and forget about being a season ticket holder unless you're super rich or corporate? That level of price hike is the only thing that might make some difference, but it ain't gonna happen because people with that kind of price elasticity for sports tickets in the NY-north NJ market have plenty of other things to spend on.

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If you've only been a ticket holder for just over 10 years, you've seen one of the better eras of SHU basketball. This one year is nothing compared to the decade of futility from 2006.

Got to get rid of free transfer rule or this sport is going to implode. All about the players getting a share of the multibillion dollar pie that NCAA officials and schools have feasted on for decades, but some sense of order is needed.

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Unfortunately, it likely won’t matter. He has hit Trilly’s transfer portal list with Louisville and GTown as the likely landing spots.

NIL stuff aside, the NCAA has created a joke with the free transfer rule with no sit out restrictions

SPK145 said:

Not really as at that time revenue sharing wasn’t legal yet.p

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SHUisNJsTeam said:

The best time to do this would have been last year after winning the NIT.

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Bingo. If everyone is going to complain at least understand the facts. Revenue sharing wasn’t even allowed last year so there would have been no point in raising ticket prices as it was not legal to pay directly to athletes

cernjSHU said:

Lying to the American public about something so obvious as Russian aggression is perhaps part of a new negotiating tactic on. The part of Trump? Really? This is mental gymnastics. He has been clear what he is doing. He is dismantling American foreign policy, intelligence and institutions. You sit back and wait u til it’s too late. Peace?? At what cost? Empowering Putin, weakening NATO and screwing over Ukraine and the loss of US prestige and trust for our allies?

From blanket tariifs to indiscriminate firings of the newest scapegoat, federal workers, to completely relegating Congress as a powerless branch of government. This is the dismantling of the US.

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There is nothing the cretins here won't excuse. It's been obvious FOR YEARS (decades, probably; but I was once unaware of this board). But it's still breathtakingly absurd and shameful.

If you want to practice law in New Jersey and are able to financially make it work, there is no better place to go than Seton Hall Law.

dehere23 said:

Can we just press the hell out of them from the jump?

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Would be fun to watch that.

Halldan1 said:

Can they? Will they?

Yes and no.

Yes they can but no they won't despite Nova not playing well on the Big East road.

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Can we just press the hell out of them from the jump?

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Yeah, 3 years younger than Xavier's Freemantle

Another close one. Dixon the difference. He must be 30 by now!

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They had a plan last year and it was focused on season ticket holder retention. Renew quickly and save the 3% price increase. I chose that option so their plan worked in my case.