Based on what’s happened so far, VCU to cover the spread - as the favorite. 😰

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I've read three articles from three guys that cover the Giants closely today and yesterday. All of them are saying "how can we have confidence in Schoen and Daboll to pick the next QB at this point and improve the team?" Duggan has the best article in The Athletic but Politi isn't far off either. Essentially these guys have crapped the bed in a big way and its not just the QB decisions. These are the guys that will pick the next Giants QB if retained. The only damning evidence that could come out is if Mara was the one pushing for the big DJ contract. But it sounded like no other teams were negotiating for DJ and the Giants backed themselves into a corner with the tagging decision of either Jones or Barkley. They negotiated against themselves and got it all wrong and weren't strong enough to get a good backup to replace Jones earlier in the season if he tanked. Instead they had a bad Drew Lock and a third stringer in Cutlets. Between the owners and the GM and Coach what a mess.

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There are certainly enough draft whiffs. You have to be really overconfident in them to allow them to make the decision. If they get it wrong you are just getting stuck in the same cycle in 3 years. Who knows? Maybe the plan is to not draft a QB and tank for 2026.

I’m not exactly sure what leads us to believe Dual is a PG anyway? I’m not buying his absence as a reason for our major struggles. Everywhere you can find he was listed as a combo guard. I know that’s not that legit but still.

Even in Carino’s article after Dual committed to seton hall he mentioned that he’s better in the open court and not half court sets. So that says to me he’s just another guy that relies on athleticism to get straight to the hoop for a layup and not somebody that can create or distribute.

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VCU 65
SHU 50

No reason to expect differently against better competition

I’m in Charleston and feeling pumped!
Maybe more heart than head.

Hall 66
VCU 63

radecicco said:

We were spoiled by last years FT shooting. Team around 78% with Dre and KR above 80% and Dawes at 95%.

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95% is insane.

Section112 said:

I've read three articles from three guys that cover the Giants closely today and yesterday. All of them are saying "how can we have confidence in Schoen and Daboll to pick the next QB at this point and improve the team?" Duggan has the best article in The Athletic but Politi isn't far off either. Essentially these guys have crapped the bed in a big way and it’s not just the QB decisions. These are the guys that will pick the next Giants QB if retained. The only damning evidence that could come out is if Mara was the one pushing for the big DJ contract. But it sounded like no other teams were negotiating for DJ and the Giants backed themselves into a corner with the tagging decision of either Jones or Barkley. They negotiated against themselves and got it all wrong and weren't strong enough to get a good backup to replace Jones earlier in the season if he tanked. Instead they had a bad Drew Lock and a third stringer in Cutlets. Between the owners and the GM and Coach what a mess.

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Okay I was done with this thread but nothing grinds my gears more in sports than the whole “player X is familiar with the system”

Why is it that EVERY single head coach and OC/DC supposedly has some sort of magical “system” that nobody else in the history of the NFL has ever produced before?

Daboll asks his QB’s to do something different than every other team? I think the objective is clear. Find the open man, throw a good pass. It’s not rocket science, nor does it take “familiarity”.

Devito is playing for 1 reason and 1 reason only. To see if he has the ability to be a super cheap backup QB next year or do the giants need to find a starter AND backup.

Section112 said:

I've read three articles from three guys that cover the Giants closely today and yesterday. All of them are saying "how can we have confidence in Schoen and Daboll to pick the next QB at this point and improve the team?" Duggan has the best article in The Athletic but Politi isn't far off either. Essentially these guys have crapped the bed in a big way and its not just the QB decisions. These are the guys that will pick the next Giants QB if retained. The only damning evidence that could come out is if Mara was the one pushing for the big DJ contract. But it sounded like no other teams were negotiating for DJ and the Giants backed themselves into a corner with the tagging decision of either Jones or Barkley. They negotiated against themselves and got it all wrong and weren't strong enough to get a good backup to replace Jones earlier in the season if he tanked. Instead they had a bad Drew Lock and a third stringer in Cutlets. Between the owners and the GM and Coach what a mess.

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These articles are pure clickbait. “How can you have confidence they can pick a QB”. Umm how about the fact they never did pick a QB. So where’s the basis to believe they can’t? Pure nonsense

Piratz said:

Toumi has always been a terrible FT shooter. He came into this year just 118/217 (.544) for his career over the past two seasons at Evansville. He didn’t attempt a single FT in that one season he played at Little Rock in 2020-21 where he only appeared in 7 games. Then he went JUCO for 2021-22 or something.

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We seem to attract enigmas like Toumi.

I've read three articles from three guys that cover the Giants closely today and yesterday. All of them are saying "how can we have confidence in Schoen and Daboll to pick the next QB at this point and improve the team?" Duggan has the best article in The Athletic but Politi isn't far off either. Essentially these guys have crapped the bed in a big way and its not just the QB decisions. These are the guys that will pick the next Giants QB if retained. The only damning evidence that could come out is if Mara was the one pushing for the big DJ contract. But it sounded like no other teams were negotiating for DJ and the Giants backed themselves into a corner with the tagging decision of either Jones or Barkley. They negotiated against themselves and got it all wrong and weren't strong enough to get a good backup to replace Jones earlier in the season if he tanked. Instead they had a bad Drew Lock and a third stringer in Cutlets. Between the owners and the GM and Coach what a mess.

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I bought a season ticket for the ladies this week ($75 for the year is quite a steal when you factor in the free parking)... and then they have this great road win! It's a nice change from whatever the men's team is currently putting on the court...

Saying and doing the right things. We'll see how it works out. Some interesting excerpts.....

1) Holtmann got the assurances and conditions required before accepting, and to Peevy's credit, he knows his job is on the line with this hiring as well. To that end, DePaul's NIL budget has purportedly snowballed and is no longer paltry. In agreeing to a six-year deal, Holtmann also gave up some of his own would-be salary to increase the pool for his staff to be at a competitive level in the Big East.

2) For as strong of a hire Holtmann was to DePaul, he also brought on a staff that's got loads of experience, which is crucial at a place prone to massive disappointments. In addition to keeping Paris Parham as an assistant, Holtmann hired three guys with head coaching experience: former Miami University Jack Owens, former Southern Illinois coach Bryan Mullins and former Butler coach LaVall Jordan, who is the team's general manager.

3) Said Holtmann: "I'm not sure there's a more important, critical issue when it comes to winning and losing consistently right now than roster construction. Does the roster fit the head coach? Does it fit his style of play, and where can he morph it a little bit? Does he fit in terms of personality? It is so critical."

Toumi has always been a terrible FT shooter. He came into this year just 118/217 (.544) for his career over the past two seasons at Evansville. He didn’t attempt a single FT in that one season he played at Little Rock in 2020-21 where he only appeared in 7 games. Then he went JUCO for 2021-22 or something.

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We need every point we can get...starts with foul shooting.

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Free throws is one of the few things you can change. Offense will take a time but FT percentage needs to be higher because the current number is not acceptable for a D1 team. We make a few more FT’s we would be undefeated. Gotta put in the extra time in the gym and clean it up.

A bit ironic, but four games in now the front court is the strength of the team.