Seton75 said:

We have the gus bus so we all know there are 50 ways to leave your lover.

And there are a helluva lot of ways to be a good basketball team too. I hope we find one of them.

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And btw, I think we will.

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We have the gus bus so we all know there are 50 ways to leave your lover.

And there are a helluva lot of ways to be a good basketball team too. I hope we find one of them.

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shudude said:

Princeton received 2 votes in initial AP25 and High Point received 1 so apparently they think they’re pretty good.

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I mean, don’t you think that was the point of my post? Somehow they received votes and we didn’t. Therefore by this ridiculous list they’re better than us

hallstorm said:

My problem is Kenpom assumes teams “should” win by certain margins and if a team goes 15-0 but only wins by an average of 4 points, he assumes they’ll regress to losing some games.

It’s a style points system that tries to integrate individualized past performance into a team game.

I would be fine with it if I never saw it in a composure box when February NCAA hopefuls emerge.

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Well yeah there’s a logic to if you’re perpetually playing close games against all opponent types something is limited.

But overall yes results matter to me and should to everyone first. If you’re living a charmed life by going 25-5 and won every game close so be it. 25-5 is 25-5.

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@dehere23 I agree it’s better. Clearly. We had 5-6 players on last year’s team that were not BE players. That’s not the case this year.

We also were fortunate with the single transfer rule timing for our other players that helped keep them here last year.

My problem is Kenpom assumes teams “should” win by certain margins and if a team goes 15-0 but only wins by an average of 4 points, he assumes they’ll regress to losing some games.

It’s a style points system that tries to integrate individualized past performance into a team game.

I would be fine with it if I never saw it in a composure box when February NCAA hopefuls emerge.

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Piratz said:

It would be even less reliable as an indicator if it zeroed. The NET and Quad System is supposed to be more of that weighing outcomes versus productivity.

The Hall has its ethos: We’re going to be a program that outperforms and fights annually. It’s a also what Sha likes to coach and motivate off and, in the NIL Era, we don’t have a choice either unless we retaining top players and not losing them every year (Samuel, Richmond, Davis).

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The NIL seems to be improving, but we also need to hope that playing under Sha will make kids want to stay because they view that as the best option long term. If someone is offering you equal to more $$$ and has a coach with a pedigree of development, success and the like, it’s really hard to turn that down. If someone is offering you more or equal NIl but whose HC isn’t nearly as attractive, it’s a different equation IMO.

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sami said:

We’re probably properly ranked at this point, I just don’t like that he releases a metrics-based formula before games are played. I probably wouldn’t even mind a starting point if it was embedded and first metrics released 12/1.

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It would be even less reliable as an indicator if it zeroed. The NET and Quad System is supposed to be more of that weighing outcomes versus productivity.

The Hall has its ethos: We’re going to be a program that outperforms and fights annually. It’s also what Sha likes to coach and motivate off and, in the NIL Era, we don’t have a choice either unless we retain top players and not losing them every year (Samuel, Richmond, Davis). Then maybe we have preseason hype/projections.

Otherwise we’re going to rely on transfers that weren’t stars and developing them. That doesn’t look great to KenPom.

No doubt athleticism is important but shooting is key in today's game as well as consistent post play. Biggest question is how well did we replace Dawes & Davis outside shooting & Bediako inside.

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