Biden warns that his Covid aid depends on Georgia Senate victories for Warnock, Ossoff
Biden cut a new ad for Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff weeks before the Jan. 5 runoff elections in Georgia that will determine who controls the Senate.
Biden holds Covid support hostage
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Is it though?
Like I said, I prefer a split Congress but I do think McConnell has earned that ad.
It implies Biden wouldn't sign a Covid relief bill unless Dems win Georgia. That's not what the ad or article says.
His point was that he wouldn't get one to sign unless Dems win Georgia. Not really an unreasonable stance considering the lack of action from the senate.
Really? You have to be kidding me. I thought I was going to watch some messed up ad that Biden suddenly turned vicious. It’s an ad stating that he promises a CoVid support bill to be signed and that electing the Georgia Senators will guarantee that. Where is the fearmongering? Biden has wanted to give money to frontline workers. Something republicans refuse to give. Something that would be like a hazard pay and they deserve it.
You're the only one implying that. The title of the thread does not. There was no mention of Dems versus Republicans in the title I used.
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Then "holding hostage" doesn't mean what you think it means.
Biden is not holding anything hostage.
He is saying that McConnell is holding Covid relief hostage, and he is probably not wrong there.
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary responses.
Hazard pay should be provided for people putting themselves at additional risk for the common good of other citizens.
Why at the expense of the federal government is a good question, and my answer would be that the federal government is the only one that has the possible resources (I'd also argue duty) to help.
A novel, highly contagious virus and we are asking them to continuously expose themselves to the virus. Thousands of them have died. While you may think they is an insignificant number, you also have to consider that the rest of them have families and loved ones they could potentially expose as well.
Not to mention toll this places on their mental health in having to deal with this amount of death.
We are asking quite a lot from them. I think that ask deserves compensation.
No, we're not asking a lot. They're simply going to work and doing their jobs as they've always done. Your irrational fear of the virus predisposes you to this thinking. The entire population is exposed to the virus.
I have worked every day since this began on site at my job. I have no fear of being "exposed." I am not asking for hazard pay. In fact I am thankful that I have been able to go to the office every day to keep a semblance of routine through all of this.
Sure, they are just going to work at the hospital like every other day. I don't think you have a clue as to what the healthcare workers are going through. Everyday they exposed themselves to a disease that could take their life. They work intimately within inches of patients who are severely ill or dying from the disease. Many already have paid the price by dying from CoVid. Moreover, the mental drain of seeing patients Code one after the other is unlike any other time in a hospital. Im glad you like going to an office. But you do not expose yourself like healthcare workers at a hospital taking care of CoVid patients.
This post just typifies how uncaring and obtuse you are. You compare yourself with healthcare workers in a hospital setting taking care of CoVid patients is laughable.
We are not all exposed. We all manage are risks and could be potentially exposed. Healthcare workers ARE actually exposed to the virus every day.
I don't have an irrational fear. I have an understanding of what the virus is, and the risks associated with it as I have since the beginning. You had this very... very wrong since beginning and just keep doubling down and moving your goal post.
Are we differentiating frontline from hospital?
This is what you objected to regarding hazard pay.
Yes, I assumed you were talking about grocery clerks, transit works, airline pilots, etc.
As for healthcare workers, this is what they signed up for, to care for sick people.
No, you keep moving the goalposts by changing the dates. When you keep moving the time frame out, of course there will be more cases and deaths.
You guys can live in fear of the virus. That's fine, stay inside. I'll live my life. Just don't tell me what to do.
You said this disease would be gone in 3 or 4 months. You stated that it was just like the flu. You were dead wrong. Can't you just be man enough to admit it?
Well it did blow over in 3-4 months. 3-4 months from March is June/July. Then it came back in October, which I was not expecting.
You are living in an alternative universe. CoVid didn't blow over. It never went away. It subsided. It was still killing approximately 1000 people a day in this country in July and August. It is just now spiking again in a second wave just like Fauci told us it would. https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-daily-deaths.
You have been wrong about everything on CoVid yet your stubbornly hold on to thinking you are correct.
Because the entire idea of covid shutdowns has been to make more people dependent on government, test how quickly the American people would surrender their rights and showcase the power of big government to shut down businesses at the drop of a hat.
Nothing but mass social conditioning. The sheep bought it, hook, line and sinker.
320,000 US citizens are dead due to a highly contagious, novel virus. The government has provided us with about $4 per day in aid.
They are doing a shit job at making us dependent on them.
Alternatively, you have been blinded by a prior bias which doesn't let you adapt to understand what is going on.
No, but that is to encourage people to get it so we can get past this - but sure, throw in the market price of the vaccine and we're up to what, $4.50 a day?
Doesn't change the point.
The shutdowns were not to see what the government can get away with. There is no conspiracy there. It was to help slow the spread of a highly contagious virus with the potential to kill hundreds of thousands to millions of Americans.
All of the actions have been primarily geared toward maintaining hospital capacity.
If we really wanted to slow the spread and limit deaths, locking down borders along with stringent contact tracing would have accomplished that.
Lots more we could have done. We didn't handle it perfectly.
Just saying it wasn't "to test how quickly the American people would surrender their rights "
If that was the test anyway, we failed fairly miserably... I guess that's a good thing?
HALL85 didn't say that, I said it. And Americans have shown they are more than willing to surrender their rights. The political class has learned a lot this year about what they can get away with.
Not political bias. More like confirmation bias where you are more likely to believe things that match up with your preconceived understanding. For example, believing a journalist that says deaths will be lower in 2020 than in 2019.
What are you talking about? I was responding about what actions were directed to accomplish.
You were responding to me in my response to someone else. I was keeping it in the context of that... but all good.
Text conversations can be difficult to follow with several people.
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