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Biden Treason Summary

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He’s a puppet of evil and a traitor
 
This board has become unreadable. Instead of a good back and forth. We get nonsense like this. Extremist conspiracists who are not ashamed of their ignorance. Do you have any idea what the definition of treason is?

“Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000;“
 
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This board has become unreadable. Instead of a good back and forth. We get nonsense like this. Extremist conspiracists who are not ashamed of their ignorance. Do you have any idea what the definition of treason is?

“Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000;“
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They project the crimes of their fearless leader onto everyone else.
 
cernjSHU said:
Who said he is stepping down? I said that is what he should do for the good of the country.

Making leaps? What is not factual in my post? Fact - The Russians interfered in our election on behalf of Trump. Fact - Despite early denials from Trump and other members of the campaign like Manfaort, there were not only contacts with the Russians but also business deals with high staff members of the Trump campaign. If you consider this noise, I don't know what to tell you. Because I think it is bordering on treason.

This has nothing to do with politics. There is more than just smoke here. There is fire. The question is how much fire.
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I can't stand Biden. I don't think he is a nice person and he is a horrible president. Gas is up, food prices are up, construction materials are up, interest rates are up, car prices are up, etc... yet none of this is his fault. Illegals are crossing the border at an alarming rate and they get better treatment than the average American. The are given free housing, phones, food, medical care etc... Biden's son is the scum of the earth. His actions and his connections with foreign countries is swept under the rug.

With all of that said, I don't think Biden has done anything that even comes close to Treason.
 
He is a puppet , he’s doing his job well for his Global bosses to destroy the USA.

He defines TRAITOR

When all of Banks are go under , there are going to be a lot of shocked sheep
 
SHUMatt said:
I can't stand Biden. I don't think he is a nice person and he is a horrible president. Gas is up, food prices are up, construction materials are up, interest rates are up, car prices are up, etc... yet none of this is his fault. Illegals are crossing the border at an alarming rate and they get better treatment than the average American. The are given free housing, phones, food, medical care etc... Biden's son is the scum of the earth. His actions and his connections with foreign countries is swept under the rug.

With all of that said, I don't think Biden has done anything that even comes close to Treason.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx

Poll numbers are twenty points lower than when he took office and lowest of any President. Considering unemployment is at an all-time low, this is terrible no matter how you cut it. Even his own party doesn't want him to run again.

I would encourage anyone that did not see the Krysten Sinema piece on Face the Nation to watch. Everyone is trying to get her out of office on both sides and she doesn't seem to care. You have a strong, articulate woman that is willing to get in front of the tough issues and lead and yet we have a bumbling idiot as VP who checked the boxes.
 
HALL85 said:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx

Poll numbers are twenty points lower than when he took office and lowest of any President. Considering unemployment is at an all-time low, this is terrible no matter how you cut it. Even his own party doesn't want him to run again.
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I do not want Biden to run, but keeping things in context, Reagan bottomed out at 35% around this time in his first term and things turned around once they got inflation under control.

The poll numbers are VERY bad, but not insurmountable if he can capitalize on the messaging around inflation dropping to around 3% over the next couple months.
 
Merge said:
I do not want Biden to run, but keeping things in context, Reagan bottomed out at 35% around this time in his first term and things turned around once they got inflation under control.

The poll numbers are VERY bad, but not insurmountable if he can capitalize on the messaging around inflation dropping to around 3% over the next couple months.
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Had to go back over 40 years to find those numbers.

That's an optimistic view on your part. We agree that he shouldn't run (nor should Kamala).
 
HALL85 said:
Had to go back over 40 years to find those numbers.
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HALL85 said:
That's an optimistic view on your part.
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Every president has significant fluctuations. Realistically, we're done with high inflation. By July the last of the "bad" trailing months will roll off and we should be right around or maybe below 3%. The optimism there is assuming Biden can leverage that and spin it to his advantage, and if he can't then he doesn't deserve to win in 2024.
 
Merge said:
news.gallup.com

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Every president has significant fluctuations. Realistically, we're done with high inflation. By July the last of the "bad" trailing months will roll off and we should be right around or maybe below 3%. The optimism there is assuming Biden can leverage that and spin it to his advantage, and if he can't then he doesn't deserve to win in 2024.
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You only mention the 3% inflation. What about the crazy number of illegals crossing the border? What about him not being able to put a sentence together without stuttering? How about the fact that he endorses biological males to compete against females in sports?

Anyone besides Trump should win in a landslide if Biden runs again.
 
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SHUMatt said:
You only mention the 3% inflation. What about the crazy number of illegals crossing the border? What about him not being able to put a sentence together without stuttering? How about the fact that he endorses biological males to compete against females in sports?

Anyone besides Trump should win in a landslide if Biden runs again.
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People tend to vote based on their finances. If they feel the economy and their personal finances are doing well, they will vote to keep things the same. If not, they will vote for a change.

I agree he hasn't done enough to address immigration and I don't agree with him regarding trans athletes in women's sports. It's likely a reasonable republican candidate would do very well against him. The problem though, is there room in the republican party for a reasonable republican?
 
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Merge said:
People tend to vote based on their finances. If they feel the economy and their personal finances are doing well, they will vote to keep things the same. If not, they will vote for a change.

I agree he hasn't done enough to address immigration and I don't agree with him regarding trans athletes in women's sports. It's likely a reasonable republican candidate would do very well against him. The problem though, is there room in the republican party for a reasonable republican?
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He hasn't done enough to address immigration? He has done the exact opposite, he rolled out the red carpet for them. Within the next few weeks it will only get worse.

Reasonable republican? I see your cheap shot here. Trump's big mouth and the media's agenda against him make him a bad pick. Desantis would be a fantastic president. I would vote for Mickey Mouse over Biden or Harris.
 
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Merge said:
news.gallup.com

Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.
news.gallup.com news.gallup.com




Every president has significant fluctuations. Realistically, we're done with high inflation. By July the last of the "bad" trailing months will roll off and we should be right around or maybe below 3%. The optimism there is assuming Biden can leverage that and spin it to his advantage, and if he can't then he doesn't deserve to win in 2024.
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He's going to win regardless because somehow, some way, Donald freaking Trump is going to be his opponent. Sad state of affairs that those are going to be the two options again.
 
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People tend to vote based on their finances. If they feel the economy and their personal finances are doing well, they will vote to keep things the same. If not, they will vote for a change.

I agree he hasn't done enough to address immigration and I don't agree with him regarding trans athletes in women's sports. It's likely a reasonable republican candidate would do very well against him. The problem though, is there room in the republican party for a reasonable republican?
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There's a Republican Governor in Florida who just won a "swing state" by like 20 points or whatever it was, with support from life-long Democrats and independents, including taking Miami-Dade County, which a Republican hadn't won in decades. I don't agree with him on every position, but if you win by that much in that state, in those counties, you have to be doing something that folks who aren't cultists like.
 
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There's a Republican Governor in Florida who just won a "swing state" by like 20 points or whatever it was, with support from life-long Democrats and independents, including taking Miami-Dade County, which a Republican hadn't won in decades. I don't agree with him on every position, but if you win by that much in that state, in those counties, you have to be doing something that folks who aren't cultists like.
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Just saw a great interview with the Governor where he discusses common sense approach to the problems we face. He’s young smart and logical, not going to get the far left votes but would easily appeal to majority of Americans. His take on Disney is very interesting.
 
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Pirata,
Wow impressed you were able to find this quote.
cernjSHU said:
Who said he is stepping down? I said that is what he should do for the good of the country.

Making leaps? What is not factual in my post? Fact - The Russians interfered in our election on behalf of Trump. Fact - Despite early denials from Trump and other members of the campaign like Manfaort, there were not only contacts with the Russians but also business deals with high staff members of the Trump campaign. If you consider this noise, I don't know what to tell you. Because I think it is bordering on treason.

This has nothing to do with politics. There is more than just smoke here. There is fire. The question is how much fire.

We are all quilty of this somewhere along the line. Not a Biden fan but according to CERN it’s borderline Treason what he’s done. Funny how your words come back to bite you!
Media feeds the bait and fools bite hook line and sinker. Happening with Biden right now, he’s quilty but probably not as bad as what is being painted. We all need to step back from the narrative and draw our own conclusions. Good lesson learned.
 
SHallguy2 said:
Pirata,
Wow impressed you were able to find this quote.
cernjSHU said:
Who said he is stepping down? I said that is what he should do for the good of the country.

Making leaps? What is not factual in my post? Fact - The Russians interfered in our election on behalf of Trump. Fact - Despite early denials from Trump and other members of the campaign like Manfaort, there were not only contacts with the Russians but also business deals with high staff members of the Trump campaign. If you consider this noise, I don't know what to tell you. Because I think it is bordering on treason.

This has nothing to do with politics. There is more than just smoke here. There is fire. The question is how much fire.

We are all quilty of this somewhere along the line. Not a Biden fan but according to CERN it’s borderline Treason what he’s done. Funny how your words come back to bite you!
Media feeds the bait and fools bite hook line and sinker. Happening with Biden right now, he’s quilty but probably not as bad as what is being painted. We all need to step back from the narrative and draw our own conclusions. Good lesson learned.
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Russia was and is an enemy. Russia is a country that was proven to interfere in our 2016 election. A presidential candidate conspiring with a foreign nation which is an enemy would be a crime. That borders on treason. Not treason. Perhaps if you understand English borders means to be next to. But keep on with your narrative.

In that article about Biden nothing in it even remotely touches upon this. Moreover, while China is a frienemy maybe adversary, they are not an enemy to date. Our economies are too linked to be enemies.
 
cernjSHU said:
Russia was and is an enemy. Russia is a country that was proven to interfere in our 2016 election. A presidential candidate conspiring with a foreign nation which is an enemy would be a crime. That borders on treason. Not treason. Perhaps if you understand English borders means to be next to. But keep on with your narrative.

In that article about Biden nothing in it even remotely touches upon this. Moreover, while China is a frienemy maybe adversary, they are not an enemy to date. Our economies are too linked to be enemies.
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I said, "We are all guilty of this somewhere along the line". We all make mistakes that's why we need to take a step back. I agree with you, " A presidential candidate conspiring with a foreign nation which is an enemy would be a crime. That borders on treason. Not treason." So you agree that Biden if found to be taking bribes and profiting from his influence is bordering on treason right? Would you impeach him for taking bribes? I would 100% want any political figure found taking bribes impeached and held accountable both sides and would hope most Americans feel the same way.
 
dehere23 said:
There's a Republican Governor in Florida who just won a "swing state" by like 20 points or whatever it was, with support from life-long Democrats and independents, including taking Miami-Dade County, which a Republican hadn't won in decades. I don't agree with him on every position, but if you win by that much in that state, in those counties, you have to be doing something that folks who aren't cultists like.
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That is true. I do think he would do well in a general election. He has taken some positions which could hurt his chances but he should be able to overcome them and I think he would beat Biden head to head (probably fairly easily as well)

I just don't think he's getting through a primary against Trump.
 
SHallguy2 said:
So you agree that Biden if found to be taking bribes and profiting from his influence is bordering on treason right?
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If any of that lead to influence on US policy decision aiding an enemy - yes.
If any of that lead to influence on US policy decision aiding an adversary - not treason but bordering sure and impeachable without a doubt.

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would 100% want any political figure found taking bribes impeached and held accountable both sides and would hope most Americans feel the same way.
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Absolutely. I have no issues with an investigation here. Politicians and their families should avoid these types of business dealings because of the optics in the first place. The payments from the Chinese company occurred in 2017 though. There really can't be an allegation of a bribe related to his time when he was not in office even if the payments were to Joe himself.

I think we've confirmed that his son was selling influence. The only reason that guy was making any money was because of his name. He may have been pitching he could influence his father on policy or something, but unless Joe acted on that somewhere - there is no crime.

Was Joe as VP pitching members of congress on legislation that would help these foreign countries? Something like that seems like it should be easy to prove.
 
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Merge said:
If any of that lead to influence on US policy decision aiding an enemy - yes.
If any of that lead to influence on US policy decision aiding an adversary - not treason but bordering sure and impeachable without a doubt.



Absolutely. I have no issues with an investigation here. Politicians and their families should avoid these types of business dealings because of the optics in the first place. The payments from the Chinese company occurred in 2017 though. There really can't be an allegation of a bribe related to his time when he was not in office even if the payments were to Joe himself.

I think we've confirmed that his son was selling influence. The only reason that guy was making any money was because of his name. He may have been pitching he could influence his father on policy or something, but unless Joe acted on that somewhere - there is no crime.

Was Joe as VP pitching members of congress on legislation that would help these foreign countries? Something like that seems like it should be easy to prove.
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I'm hoping that going after Trump has opened the door to cleaning up the government. Maybe (wishful thinking) they start turning on each other and cleaning out the bad eggs. Said this before but all the trillions being spent leads to serious corruption. Politicians are big shots with other peoples money, pretty simple concept. For example, Biden saying fire this guy or you don't get one billion dollars. Absolutely sure Trump did the exact same things.
 
Merge said:
That is true. I do think he would do well in a general election. He has taken some positions which could hurt his chances but he should be able to overcome them and I think he would beat Biden head to head (probably fairly easily as well)

I just don't think he's getting through a primary against Trump.
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Agree with you 1000%. Trump is a cancer on this whole process and yet I don't see him getting stopped. I'm no fan of Biden for plenty of reasons, but he'll get my vote again over Trump. But I would love Desantis to get in the mix.
 
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dehere23 said:
Agree with you 1000%. Trump is a cancer on this whole process and yet I don't see him getting stopped. I'm no fan of Biden for plenty of reasons, but he'll get my vote again over Trump. But I would love Desantis to get in the mix.
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If it’s Biden and trump, I will vote for neither as I did in 2020. At some point you have to have a conscience.
 
dehere23 said:
Agree with you 1000%. Trump is a cancer on this whole process and yet I don't see him getting stopped. I'm no fan of Biden for plenty of reasons, but he'll get my vote again over Trump. But I would love Desantis to get in the mix.
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Can’t take anyone serious if they admit to voting for a senile stooge puppet , Bidunce , for Klaus Schwab and the WEF 4th Reich

Shame on you if you are serious.

Dems should vote for RFK Jr in the primary if they value their freedom.
 
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