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donnie_baseball said:
apparently a credible informant.
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How? He's a Russian agent.
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Active Russian Agent Andrii Derkach Indicted for Scheme to Violate Sanctions in the United States

A seven-count indictment was unsealed today in federal court in Brooklyn charging Andrii Derkach, 55, of Ukraine, with conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Acts (IEEPA), bank fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy, and four counts of money laundering in...
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Lev Parnas who was involved in trying to dig up dirt on Biden says this is crap and has offered to testify in front of congress.



Really nothing to indicate if this is credible or not which is why the public does not have access to these types of reports when they cover unverified information.
 
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Proud NJ Sports Fan said:
You 🐑 don’t , to no surprise

Prob too busy washing your home made masks
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people don't wear masks anymore, they haven't for like 2 years. its not even on anyone's mind, but it's on yours constantly. just constantly thinking about 2 and 3 year old slights. slowly losing your mind. slowly losing your grip on reality. slowly losing contact with old friends, family. deeper and deeper into the biden hole, further from reality
 
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Merge said:
How? He's a Russian agent.
www.justice.gov

Active Russian Agent Andrii Derkach Indicted for Scheme to Violate Sanctions in the United States

A seven-count indictment was unsealed today in federal court in Brooklyn charging Andrii Derkach, 55, of Ukraine, with conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Acts (IEEPA), bank fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy, and four counts of money laundering in...
www.justice.gov www.justice.gov

Lev Parnas who was involved in trying to dig up dirt on Biden says this is crap and has offered to testify in front of congress.

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Really nothing to indicate if this is credible or not which is why the public does not have access to these types of reports when they cover unverified information.
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Lev Parnas, the ex-convict?
 
Merge said:
You don't have to trust him, but then you're calling Derkach credible?
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Merge said:
You don't have to trust him, but then you're calling Derkach credible?
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No, the article did, and said he had been an FBI informant for >10 years. Maybe neither are trustworthy, just seems a lot of smoke about this Ukrainian energy company that can't live without Joe's dimwit kid on the board.
 
donnie_baseball said:
No, the article did, and said he had been an FBI informant for >10 years. Maybe neither are trustworthy, just seems a lot of smoke about this Ukrainian energy company that can't live without Joe's dimwit kid on the board.
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The NY Post article calling an anti Biden person credible is not really not something that I would be taking at face value.

The Ukrainian energy company 100% wanted Hunter because they thought they would be getting access to the Biden name and whatever political connections that would come with. Hunter was selling his influence without question. That's not illegal though, and the only thing that could possibly be an issue is if Joe acted in the company's interest over US policy and there is nothing to indicate that happened.

Even the whole firing of Shokin thing is nonsense if you go back and look at what was happening at the time, is a silly allegation. A prosecutor under Shokin resigned because Shokin blocked him from going after corruption, the EU and IMF were pressuring Ukraine to get rid of Shokin. There were protests inside Ukraine for the government to get rid of Shokin etc. Maybe the reason the FBI didn't go after this stuff from Derkach is likely just because they didn't think the source was credible.
 
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donnie_baseball said:
Amazing that @cernjSHU, who just praised Biden for a deal done a year ago, is MIA on this one. It's the Post, yes, but apparently a credible informant.
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Did Proud NJ Sports fan just take over Donnie's account?

I am little surprised by you falling for this. So Let's just put aside the credibility of the informant aside.. Why don't they just interview Zlochevsky who supposedly paid the bribe? Wouldn't that be the best source of the information? Oh wait he was asked and he denied it.

Well it is two monster payments of $5 million each. Surely there is a paper trail? Oh wait, no accounts that were deposited or and transactions that would be suspicious. What, clearly a crack head like Hunter Biden would spend $5 million on drugs and it would be so obvious that he had this $5 million.

Let me try to explain about informants. There are many times we have them. Sometimes they give really good information. Sometimes ,well that information was bad information. That is why you have to verify the information. None of this is verified and it is indeed contradicted by the head of Burisma himself. This is why unverified information should not be released.

I don't comment on this because there is nothing to comment on.

I will say this. If Joe Biden took a Bribe while he was VP, he should be prosecuted. But please, let's have a shred of evidence. You think that under that Bill Barr would have done started an investigation had they had a scintilla of evidence? So this whole thread is garbage. Wake me up when there is some proof.
 
cernjSHU said:
Did Proud NJ Sports fan just take over Donnie's account?

I am little surprised by you falling for this. So Let's just put aside the credibility of the informant aside.. Why don't they just interview Zlochevsky who supposedly paid the bribe? Wouldn't that be the best source of the information? Oh wait he was asked and he denied it.

Well it is two monster payments of $5 million each. Surely there is a paper trail? Oh wait, no accounts that were deposited or and transactions that would be suspicious. What, clearly a crack head like Hunter Biden would spend $5 million on drugs and it would be so obvious that he had this $5 million.

Let me try to explain about informants. There are many times we have them. Sometimes they give really good information. Sometimes ,well that information was bad information. That is why you have to verify the information. None of this is verified and it is indeed contradicted by the head of Burisma himself. This is why unverified information should not be released.

I don't comment on this because there is nothing to comment on.

I will say this. If Joe Biden took a Bribe while he was VP, he should be prosecuted. But please, let's have a shred of evidence. You think that under that Bill Barr would have done started an investigation had they had a scintilla of evidence? So this whole thread is garbage. Wake me
up when there is some proof.
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Come on, you know me better than that!
I wanted to give you a hard time about praising Biden belatedly, but I do respect your opinion, and am happy you weighed in.
 
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Everyone making good points.Now that Weissman has agreed to testify ( and lucky $ for me no one took my challenge bet he would not ) a key will be how he responds to whistleblowers testimony.I think he has a number of options 1) they are not reflecting what he said 2) he was blowing off steam and really didn’t mean to say what he said 3) he asked LA attorney to join him in brining charges in LA and when he refused Weissman reconsidered his decision to bring charges 4) he didn’t agree that the most serious tax charges relating to 2014/2015 should be prosecuted even though whistleblowers and all attorneys working on the case did believe charges should be made 5) everyone but him is not telling the truth.I predict he will use options 1) 3) and 4.If he does 1) is tough because 6 people were in the room and the comments were memorialized with top tax guy in IRS criminal division and he responded they accurately reflected what Weissman said.3) also a bit tough but not as bad as 1 3) really tough since all other attorneys and whistle blowers disagreed.I also think he will be asked about Attorney Wolf tipping off opposing counsel they were seeking a warrant to search storage unit which there is no good answer that I can think off.He is in tough spot since this could be a career destroying testimony.
 
I confused Weiss with Weismann the Delaware attorney name is Weiss which I confused with Andrew Weismann .My bad my apologies.
 
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1) they are not reflecting what he said
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Here's my guess. Discussing potential charges, Weiss said that charges outside of Delaware would not be solely up to him and would have to be coordinated with the AGs in DC and CA.

The DOJ has said he could bring charges in those districts if he decided to, though ultimately they reached a plea agreement which Weiss agreed to not seek charges in other districts.
 
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