Bubble Watch

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Just read the latest bubble watch and Seton Halls was pathetic. 90% of their write up was about St. John's with one sentence on how "bubbly" we are. No mention of winning 6 of 7.

Pathetic job ESPN

 

[HallLine69]

Just read the latest bubble watch and Seton Halls was pathetic. 90% of their write up was about St. John's with one sentence on how "bubbly" we are. No mention of winning 6 of 7.

Pathetic job ESPN

Illegitimi non carborundum.

 

[VioletPirate]

Doesn't matter. Let's just win Thursday.

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

Tulsa just beat Temple so the bubble just got smaller.

This doesn't seem like your typical bubble year. A BE team at 19-7/ 9-5 and one of the last 4 in and likely needing at least one win this week to stay there. I'm pulling for these players to get there more than any bubble team we've had since becoming a fan.

 

[SHUmash90]

Just win. None of these bubble reports matter. Just win and all things fall into place.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Tulsa just beat Temple so the bubble just got smaller.

This doesn't seem like your typical bubble year. A BE team at 19-7/ 9-5 and one of the last 4 in and likely needing at least one win this week to stay there. I'm pulling for these players to get there more than any bubble team we've had since becoming a fan.

The bubble hasn't changed. Tulsa wins and moves up, Florida loses and falls back, Alabama falls back if not off. Everyday teams are going to improve their resume and others teams are going lose and make things worse for themselves. All we can do is take care of our own business. Win 3 games over the next 3 weeks and we should have no worries.

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...ubble-tracker-wisconsin-could-use-win-at-iowa

Not sure if this was posted, and since I doubt anyone has any interest in watching any other games tonight I figured I'd post the link.

 

[HallBall10]

It absolutely does matter.

Entry into the tournament and then seeding is based on how our resume matches up with all of these other bubble teams.

I hope we go 4-0 but if we don't I hope Michigan loses to Northwestern tonight at 7pm on the BTN.

Part of the fun of late February and March madness is rooting against teams that are on the bubble.

 

[Section112]

Let's just win 3 of 4 and get off the bubble.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

It absolutely does matter.

Entry into the tournament and then seeding is based on how our resume matches up with all of these other bubble teams.

I hope we go 4-0 but if we don't I hope Michigan loses to Northwestern tonight at 7pm on the BTN.

Part of the fun of late February and March madness is rooting against teams that are on the bubble.

Couple pac 10 games with impact as well

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

It absolutely does matter.

Entry into the tournament and then seeding is based on how our resume matches up with all of these other bubble teams.

I hope we go 4-0 but if we don't I hope Michigan loses to Northwestern tonight at 7pm on the BTN.

Part of the fun of late February and March madness is rooting against teams that are on the bubble.

Agree. Not sure how anyone can say it doesn't matter, but to each their own.

Just about every team on or near the bubble right now can say they control their own destiny, or that they just need to "take care of business".

The J Palm thread from earlier today contains posts with multiple scenarios regarding what we need to do in our last 4+ games, all of which could be accurate depending on what the other bubble teams do.

 

[VioletPirate]

I agree. These games don't take place in a vacuum and it's good to know who to root for/against in order for SHU's tournament standing to improve. My earlier comment meant that ESPN's blurb doesn't matter. A win tomorrow and we'll see a much more positive take on The Hall.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

I agree that there is no vacuum, but I think what some others are saying is that if we just keep winning it makes what the others do to be immaterial b/c our slot cannot be moved down unless we garner a loss along the way.

 

[bd98]

We say this ever year now thanks to the dopey First Four adding four more spots but let's say it again...

"The bubble is really weak this year."

Add in the fact that SMU and Louisville have opened up 2 more spots and we're essentially talking about a SEVENTY team field here. Do you realize how hard it is going to be to miss a seventy team field? Some of these teams we're talking about here wouldn't get even a second glance in prior years, they'd be clearly out. This year, some teams that you'd think would be clearly out if you just looked at them in a vacuum are going to end up rather safely in.

Long story short: Seton Hall is going to make the NCAA Tournament.

 

[connel]

We say this ever year now thanks to the dopey First Four adding four more spots but let's say it again...

"The bubble is really weak this year."

Add in the fact that SMU and Louisville have opened up 2 more spots and we're essentially talking about a SEVENTY team field here. Do you realize how hard it is going to be to miss a seventy team field? Some of these teams we're talking about here wouldn't get even a second glance in prior years, they'd be clearly out. This year, some teams that you'd think would be clearly out if you just looked at them in a vacuum are going to end up rather safely in.

Long story short: Seton Hall is going to make the NCAA Tournament.

This I agree with and have been thinking for a while.

 

[TomD82]

Wisconsin and Colorado with huge wins last night.

 

[HallBall10]

The top 3 seeds are very weak compared to last year and because of that I think that the bubble is not as weak as in previous years.
At this point last year the top 10 ranked teams had a combined 23 losses. This year the top 10 teams have 50...A good portion of those additional losses are coming to bubble teams. ie just last night #8 Iowa losing at home to bubble Wisconsin, #9 Zona losing to bubble Colorado.

Almost all of the bubble teams won last night and we need to do the same to keep serve.

 

[TomD82]

We say this ever year now thanks to the dopey First Four adding four more spots but let's say it again...

"The bubble is really weak this year."

Add in the fact that SMU and Louisville have opened up 2 more spots and we're essentially talking about a SEVENTY team field here. Do you realize how hard it is going to be to miss a seventy team field? Some of these teams we're talking about here wouldn't get even a second glance in prior years, they'd be clearly out. This year, some teams that you'd think would be clearly out if you just looked at them in a vacuum are going to end up rather safely in.

Long story short: Seton Hall is going to make the NCAA Tournament.

It isn't a 70 team at large field. It is a 36 team field so if the conference tournaments blow up lots of teams could miss.

 

[Shuathelete]

we have no good wins.

 

[phelanma]

My biggest concern for us is that in the Power Conferences, fringe bubble or teams that have talent but have had bad years (Georgetown) win Conference Tournaments and take bids away.

 

[bd98]

It isn't a 70 team at large field. It is a 36 team field so if the conference tournaments blow up lots of teams could miss.

Semantics. Any way you look at it this year's tournament will have 6 at-large teams in it who would not be in a 64-team bracket of yesteryear.

 

[SHUBK]

we have no good wins.

Disagree here.
Anytime you win on the road in conference I consider it a "good win" within reason obviously. It is very diffiucult to win on road in conference and this team has shown the ability to do so.

 

[TomD82]

My biggest concern for us is that in the Power Conferences, fringe bubble or teams that have talent but have had bad years (Georgetown) win Conference Tournaments and take bids away.

Georgetown, Tulsa, Houston, Davidson, Illinois State, Siena, Rider,Ohio State, Washington and UCLA. That could very well happen.

 

[Shuathelete]

Disagree here.
Anytime you win on the road in conference I consider it a "good win" within reason obviously. It is very diffiucult to win on road in conference and this team has shown the ability to do so.

You can disagree all you want, to the committee we have no good wins.

 

[SHUBK]

Fair enough clearly we think differently .I believe the comittee looks at when you played people. We beat providence on the road when they were ranked aka a good win. While iI think they obviously were overrated we still won that game. You can only play who is on your schedule, if providence had won some games people look at that differently just as I personally think witchita is a good win, but maybe I am alone here

 

[mjs428]

Every year they say the bubble is really weaker

 

[shu09]

One more W and we've got it. Sunday could be a special day.

 

[GymRat]

Concede nothing.. win out..beat all three..play the defense..play the defense..play the defense

Every body left on the schedule can be beaten..you think they are happy seeing us up next..

This Sunday will be one of the great games in shu history and the rock will be insane!!

Go Pirates!