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Carino: Three thoughts on Seton Hall's romp of Marquette

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The Pirates (11-2) made a statement with a dominant second half. Ish Sanogo was a beast.

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Three thoughts on.............

http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...thoughts-seton-halls-romp-marquette/78108956/
 
The turning point of the season could end up being when Willard came out of the zone against WSU , turned that game around for the win and saw how good we could be in the man to man.
 
Great game from the Pirates. And more importantly is the development of Whitehead as a point guard. Second game in a row that he took on the role as the facilitator. 7 assists is terrific as he is learning to trust his teammates.

Whitehead is the most important player on the team. He is so important at running the team and being the facilitator that the team plays well despite him shooting poorly. I am now looking for the next leap in his progress. I want to see 7-10 assists per game out of him but with shooting efficiently. Once this happens, there is no telling how good he will be or how good this team can become.
 
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Is it just me or has hoops haven turned into a Rutgers blog?
I really don't get all of the Rutgers crotch sniffing that goes on in this state. They suck, always have and always will. Why the media continues to give them any coverage while ignoring the teams that actually win is beyond me.
 
It seems the same to me. Jerry was at the RAC so there's more meat to his coverage yesterday from RU. He covers all our home games, and for SHU & RU road games he provides thoughts when the game ends. If we were home and RU was on the road, he'd have a full game write up.
 
I really don't get all of the Rutgers crotch sniffing that goes on in this state. They suck, always have and always will. Why the media continues to give them any coverage while ignoring the teams that actually win is beyond me.

RU alumni base is like 8x or more larger than SHU's. It is that simple.
 
RU alumni base is like 8x or more larger than SHU's. It is that simple.
But look at their attendance numbers, no one goes to their games. We have a smaller alumni base but have consistently outdrawn them when it comes to fannies in seats. Their alumni also don't donate and instead rely on government handouts to support their teams. The fundraising for their unneeded stadium expansion was a failure. Just because they have more alumni doesn't mean they are interested in their athletic teams.

We win, we draw, no coverage. They lose, they don't draw, they get lots of coverage. Makes no sense. I'd love to know how many have cancelled that rag because of the lack of Seton Hall coverage vs how many have signed up because of their RU coverage. Ledger used to be a good paper but now it looks like the RU school paper....that's not a good thing either.
 
Lots more excitement at RU than at SHU. Football drives the wagon and right now there's a lot to look forward to if you're an RU fan. New AD, new coaches, new facilities planned.

Look at it this way. They aspire to be Ohio State. We aspire to be Xavier apples to apples. Or Villanova- apples to oranges. .

There's is a much more strategic vision and possible outcome than ours could ever hope to be. State vs private. Big vs. small. Taxpayer money vs private funds. Football #1 vs basketball #1. Etc.

I root against RU in everything, including glee club contests but there's a reason they get the ink and we don't.

Keep winning and we'll get our share of basketball coverage in season. RU gets football coverage all year around. " RU Water Boy Controversy" - next July headline.
 
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Lots more excitement at RU than at SHU. Football drives the wagon and right now there's a lot to look forward to if you're an RU fan. New AD, new coaches, new facilities planned.

Look at it this way. They aspire to be Ohio State. We aspire to be Xavier apples to apples. Or Villanova- apples to oranges. .

There's is a much more strategic vision and possible outcome than ours could ever hope to be. State vs private. Big vs. small. Taxpayer money vs private funds. Football #1 vs basketball #1. Etc.

I root against RU in everything, including glee club contests but there's a reason they get the ink and we don't.

Keep winning and we'll get our share of basketball coverage in season. RU gets football coverage all year around. " RU Water Boy Controversy" - next July headline.
Um, NO. I often wonder who you are truly a fan of.
 
Um no? That is your Trumpian rebuttal to my post. So damn childish to make personal attacks.

I've been a Pirate fan long before you were thought of so never ever question my loyalty or devotion. Or my donations for over the last 50 years.

Now if you are a true Pirate Fan you'll join us at SHU WBB Basketball Sunday on January 24th. See the pinned post above. Let me know - it's my idea-sponsored by Phi Kaps and Friends- and I'm running it.

Cost you 20 bucks. giuarigliac@yahoo.com Hope you can make it.
 
It's not. Hoops haven has been one of my daily hits for years. I don't just check out the blog when Dan links it. Just take a quick scroll thru his blog let me know what you find....
Agreed SOBO1, I'm with you.
 
Um no? That is your Trumpian rebuttal to my post. So damn childish to make personal attacks.

I've been a Pirate fan long before you were thought of so never ever question my loyalty or devotion. Or my donations for over the last 50 years.

Now if you are a true Pirate Fan you'll join us at SHU WBB Basketball Sunday on January 24th. See the pinned post above. Let me know - it's my idea-sponsored by Phi Kaps and Friends- and I'm running it.

Cost you 20 bucks. giuarigliac@yahoo.com Hope you can make it.
Just because I disagree with you, and trust me I do, does not make this a "personal attack". Where the hell did I "attack" you!? This should be interesting!
 
Just because I disagree with you, and trust me I do, does not make this a "personal attack". Where the hell did I "attack" you!? This should be interesting!

NJsTeam. You questioned who he is actually a fan of. Many - if not everyone - on this board does/would/has considered that a personal attack.

I know chuck. He's a good guy and a long time WBB ticket holder. Doesn't get anymore "hardcore" fandom than that.
 
Lots more excitement at RU than at SHU. Football drives the wagon and right now there's a lot to look forward to if you're an RU fan. New AD, new coaches, new facilities planned.

Look at it this way. They aspire to be Ohio State. We aspire to be Xavier apples to apples. Or Villanova- apples to oranges. .

There's is a much more strategic vision and possible outcome than ours could ever hope to be. State vs private. Big vs. small. Taxpayer money vs private funds. Football #1 vs basketball #1. Etc.

I root against RU in everything, including glee club contests but there's a reason they get the ink and we don't.

Keep winning and we'll get our share of basketball coverage in season. RU gets football coverage all year around. " RU Water Boy Controversy" - next July headline.
I'd love to see the page views on RU stories vs. SHU stories. Overall, I agree with Pirate64 here.
 
NJsTeam. You questioned who he is actually a fan of. Many - if not everyone - on this board does/would/has considered that a personal attack.

I know chuck. He's a good guy and a long time WBB ticket holder. Doesn't get anymore "hardcore" fandom than that.
Making a rational post = Being a Rutgers fan. It happens often on here. I'm not sure if it's caused by delusion or keyboard muscles.
 
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Jerry has always been fair to us. Posted this story literarily 10 minutes after the game. Follow hm on Twitter. You'll see how much attention he pays to SHU during our games, after our games and even games that would effect us.
 
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Lots more excitement at RU than at SHU. Football drives the wagon and right now there's a lot to look forward to if you're an RU fan. New AD, new coaches, new facilities planned.

Look at it this way. They aspire to be Ohio State. We aspire to be Xavier apples to apples. Or Villanova- apples to oranges. .

There's is a much more strategic vision and possible outcome than ours could ever hope to be. State vs private. Big vs. small. Taxpayer money vs private funds. Football #1 vs basketball #1. Etc.

I root against RU in everything, including glee club contests but there's a reason they get the ink and we don't.

Keep winning and we'll get our share of basketball coverage in season. RU gets football coverage all year around. " RU Water Boy Controversy" - next July headline.

NJsTeam. You questioned who he is actually a fan of. Many - if not everyone - on this board does/would/has considered that a personal attack.

I know chuck. He's a good guy and a long time WBB ticket holder. Doesn't get anymore "hardcore" fandom than that.

That's nowhere near a personal attack. It's a direct attack on his views and opinions sure, but nowhere close to attacking him personally.

But go back and read the original post 64 made that prompted that comment. Cover up the login name, pretend you don't know him, and tell me that doesn't sound like a Rutgers fan. Beyond the "I root against RU in everything" line of course. Flat out saying it's more likely for RU to become the next Ohio State than for SHU to become the next Xavier or Villanova?

64 has been on these boards and followed the two schools for long enough to know that every offseason there is a new strategic vision for the rebirth of Rutgers - in every sport. I've seen that message spouted and posted by "Generic Rutgers Fan" on these forums for years.

Lots more I can say about other stuff that's come up in this thread, but I'll get back to Hoops Haven before this post gets too long. I don't agree that HH has become a Rutgers blog. I'm a big fan of Jerry Carino and he's one of my primary sources for SHU info from out here on the West Coast.
 
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I'd love to see the page views on RU stories vs. SHU stories. Overall, I agree with Pirate64 here.
Hard to calculate page views on Seton Hall stories when those stories largely don't exist. I no longer get the Ledger and I no longer read nj.com. They've become the Rutgers school paper which I have no interest in. The AP article they decide to throw at us every once in awhile I can read elsewhere.
 
Making a rational post = Being a Rutgers fan. It happens often on here. I'm not sure if it's caused by delusion or keyboard muscles.
Rutgers aspires to be Ohio Sate (or basically anyone relevant in high major D1 athletics) and Seton Hall aspires to be Xavier, a school that just became a member of a high major D1 conference three years ago (said conference is the same one we are a founding member of!)? This is rational!? 64 always posts like Seton Hall should be thankful for any crumb thrown our way and that is someone asks us to go away we should collect our things and go.

And what is all of this "excitement at RU" he speaks of? It's always wait till next year at RU. Every few years they clean house and then next year athletic supremacy will be theirs! Trust me, if RU is ever leading the Big 10 it means the Big 10 is bad; very, very, bad!
 
why get into a pissing match with this guy? He's obviously blinded. I'm a diehard Hall fan but RU is the state university, has thousands more alums in the state, is in the Big Ten and has football. If you haven't figured out why they get coverage, you're pretty much at a loss to be enlightened.
 
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Not sure I agree with 64s post, but I do know every school craves dedicated, generous fans like Chuck. And his perspecive, encompassing the end of the honey Russell years, the fall and the pj years, till now, is a great treat for me. Who else remembers my brother in law's roommate's cheer, "what do we eat, Bearcats meat"!!!!!???
 
I'm sure just about every SHU fan would love the history, consistency, and dedication Xavier has had with its basketball program in the last 25 years. That's what 64 is referring to.
 
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