Did ESPN Screw Up?
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No way! He/she is not an active sports participant and hasn't been since the decathlon in 1976. This is simply more sports media pandering to populist Kardashian BS culture. How about Lauren Hill or Jim Kelly? How about the kid fighting cancer that is the Bengals players daughter? There are so many more true stories of courage out there. The whole Bruce Jenner thing pretty much makes me throw up in my mouth. If it makes him/her happy I'm fine with it but the press has gone completely over the line with the coverage and now ESPN is right there with them too. We are now celebrating people mutilating their own bodies which I cannot understand. ABC/Disney/ESPN - all a bunch of crap. Unfortunately people like crap.
I held back because I didn't really want to say what was on my mind...lol
I held back because I didn't really want to say what was on my mind...lol
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ESPN is a joke. I don't know why we are celebrating someone getting a sex change. If it makes Bruce happier, that's his business, but ESPN should not be pushing this on people. It is not normal, nor should it be celebrated!
If Bruce is courageous for his change, than "CAT MAN" also deserves this award.
http://metro.co.uk/2008/09/02/man-turned-cat-is-worlds-most-modified-man-457169/
If Bruce is courageous for his change, than "CAT MAN" also deserves this award.
http://metro.co.uk/2008/09/02/man-turned-cat-is-worlds-most-modified-man-457169/
Plus he is the "actor" on a reality show that makes millions. I say actor, because having spoken to people who do production for the Kardasians, the entire show is scripted. They always do 4-5 different takes with different story lines so that they can later decide what story the producers will go with. I guess Kim should get an award for releasing a sex tape which brought up her celebrity status.
What Lauren Hill did was 1000x more brave and inspiring.
What Lauren Hill did was 1000x more brave and inspiring.
An absolute joke and disgrace. Lauren is a heroine and I will remain silent on the other. This is yet another salient example of political correctness run amuck. This award went to whom the media elites deem fashionable rather than to the obvious winner.
I agree with Halldan. ESPN totally botched this award. Lauren Hill defined inspiration and courage. I am sorry, but I am not buying the Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner/Kardashian crapola. What transpired with Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner doesn't seem to fit the spirit of the awards intent. I'm sure a couple of knobs were glossed on this one.
I think it would have been appropriate had he been active in sports. For example, if he just won the decathlon and decided to do what he did. But what does Bruce Jenner have to do with sports at this point in time. He has not been relevant in sports for decades.
So I agree that ESPN should have chosen another person.
So I agree that ESPN should have chosen another person.
Bruce Jenner will always be relevant to sports. It's been nearly 40 years, but what he accomplished is the stuff of legends. Right up there with the all-time great accomplishments ever.
Caitlyn Jenner is being seen as a courageous pioneer to some for the transgender population. And at the risk of this thread being hijacked into a social debate, most aren't ready to accept that perception of it.
So that's why they're doing it.
Did they screw up? I don't know. I probably would've gone elsewhere with the award, but if you take the two premises above, that's what the award aims to do.
Caitlyn Jenner is being seen as a courageous pioneer to some for the transgender population. And at the risk of this thread being hijacked into a social debate, most aren't ready to accept that perception of it.
So that's why they're doing it.
Did they screw up? I don't know. I probably would've gone elsewhere with the award, but if you take the two premises above, that's what the award aims to do.
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I think they missed the opportunity to honor a real courageous hero... Lauren Hill. May she RIP.
I agree. The name Jenner is most certainly relevant in the field of sports. What he did many years ago is what legends are made of.
But that said there is absolutely no way the spirit of this award is best served by honoring Jenner over Hill.
Jenner is making a personal choice. One most of us will never be able to understand. But if he's comfortable doing what he has to do to live a fulfilling life I have no issue with that.
Still, how can you compare this personal choice with the situation forced upon a young women who faced an early and painful death, yet did so with strength, dignity and inspiration?
Sorry, but no one will ever convince me that Jenner was the best choice to honor the late Arthur Ashe.
But that said there is absolutely no way the spirit of this award is best served by honoring Jenner over Hill.
Jenner is making a personal choice. One most of us will never be able to understand. But if he's comfortable doing what he has to do to live a fulfilling life I have no issue with that.
Still, how can you compare this personal choice with the situation forced upon a young women who faced an early and painful death, yet did so with strength, dignity and inspiration?
Sorry, but no one will ever convince me that Jenner was the best choice to honor the late Arthur Ashe.
waiting on the response from catholicman. should be more ugly, hateful gold like above. I think giving Jenner the award is silly too, but it's pretty obvious what some of you really want to say. More bigoted old white guys I guess.
Caitlyn Jenner, Arthur Ashe Courage Award Controversy: Does Noah Galloway Deserve It More?
Caitlyn Jenner will be receiving the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs in July, but is she the most deserving?
Ever since it was announced that Jenner would be honored during the show, people have been debating whether or not she was the best choice to receive the award. According to Athlon Sports, social media users have been in a heated argument about this, many feeling as though the award should go to someone like Noah Galloway or Lauren Hill.
Galloway is a U.S. Army veteran. He lost two of his limbs while fighting in the Iraq War. He was given a second chance at life, and most recently competed on ABC’s Dancing With The Stars (he danced himself to third place with the help of Sharna Burgess).
There is a rumor floating around the internet that Galloway was actually the “runner up” to Caitlyn Jenner, thanks to sports writer Gerry Callahan.
According to The Washington Post, however, this isn’t the case. Galloway didn’t “lose” to Jenner. In fact, there wasn’t information that suggested that Galloway was even in the running, but he should have been according to thousands of fans.
Lauren Hill has also been mentioned by several people. Hill raised $1 million for cancer research while battling terminal brain cancer. She proved to be an inspiration to thousands of people and passed away on April 10.
Caitlyn Jenner is certainly deserving of such an award for bravely coming out to the world as a woman after 65 years living as a man (Bruce Jenner). As previously reported by the Inquisitr, Jenner has a lot of supporters too.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2140120/ca...ntroversy-does-noah-galloway-deserve-it-more/
Caitlyn Jenner will be receiving the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs in July, but is she the most deserving?
Ever since it was announced that Jenner would be honored during the show, people have been debating whether or not she was the best choice to receive the award. According to Athlon Sports, social media users have been in a heated argument about this, many feeling as though the award should go to someone like Noah Galloway or Lauren Hill.
Galloway is a U.S. Army veteran. He lost two of his limbs while fighting in the Iraq War. He was given a second chance at life, and most recently competed on ABC’s Dancing With The Stars (he danced himself to third place with the help of Sharna Burgess).
There is a rumor floating around the internet that Galloway was actually the “runner up” to Caitlyn Jenner, thanks to sports writer Gerry Callahan.
According to The Washington Post, however, this isn’t the case. Galloway didn’t “lose” to Jenner. In fact, there wasn’t information that suggested that Galloway was even in the running, but he should have been according to thousands of fans.
Lauren Hill has also been mentioned by several people. Hill raised $1 million for cancer research while battling terminal brain cancer. She proved to be an inspiration to thousands of people and passed away on April 10.
Caitlyn Jenner is certainly deserving of such an award for bravely coming out to the world as a woman after 65 years living as a man (Bruce Jenner). As previously reported by the Inquisitr, Jenner has a lot of supporters too.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2140120/ca...ntroversy-does-noah-galloway-deserve-it-more/
The reason why Jenner has a lot of supporters is because the Kardashians are making a fortune marketing this so hard. It's one thing if he is an inspiration but I have not found one shred of evidence that he is donating all of his appearance and TV fees to charity. Until then he/she is not relevant. With that said ESPN is getting all they want from this and more because people are talking about it and ESPN. Marketing gold for them - the actual award matters much less to them in the end. Expanding their empire means much more so the controversial choice for them was the good one in their minds. I wonder what Arthur Ashe is thinking...
It's an entirely subjective award. How do you quantify heroism?
Jenner has gone out of her way to say that she is going to try to become an example and leader for others as time progresses. He said as much during the interview with Diane Sawyer.
So maybe ESPN should've waited a bit to see if he actually did that and allowed it to breathe a bit first.
Jenner has gone out of her way to say that she is going to try to become an example and leader for others as time progresses. He said as much during the interview with Diane Sawyer.
So maybe ESPN should've waited a bit to see if he actually did that and allowed it to breathe a bit first.
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So when people don't accept something that is outlandish they have to be labeled as a bigot? That seems par for the course these days. How about some people still have family values and this does not fit in with those.
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How am I not letting him live? I am expressing my opinion on a message board, just like the "bigoted old men".
Technically you would be a bigot since you are intolerant of my differing opinion.
Technically you would be a bigot since you are intolerant of my differing opinion.
love that trap that people with these types of opinions try to ensnare the other side with. you can just go in a circle forever with that logic. doesn't hold up.
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LOL I'm not going to get into a pissing match. However, here is the definition of a bigot:
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
Nowhere does it exempt liberal thinkers from being a bigot. I find it comical that bigot is the new term that is thrown around to define those who don't throw a parade for the minority of people who choose to lead the outlandish lifestyles.
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
Nowhere does it exempt liberal thinkers from being a bigot. I find it comical that bigot is the new term that is thrown around to define those who don't throw a parade for the minority of people who choose to lead the outlandish lifestyles.
I would quantify it as such.
Jenner is making a decision he/she is comfortable with. The fact that in doing so Jenner has become a sounding board for those who believe in freedom of choice is fine, but it's not the reason the he/she made the decision.
Hill made her decision to face an early and painful death by not only accepting those circumstances but to use them to inspire both financially and emotionally a great cause.
IMO there is absolutely no question where the heroism meter leans.
+1...Arthur Ashe must be turning over in his grave. What a disgrace to a prop Jenner up as courageous and a hero. Lauren Hill or Jim Kelly would have been ideal, but ESPN prefers the circus.
FWIW, I agree with you. Or HALL85's mention of Jim Kelly. Facing dire, life-or-death circumstances takes the cake for me as well.
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ESPN could of named hundred's of people well before Bruce Jenner, with Lauren Hill being the obvious one.
I don't think ESPN is doing this because most people aren't ready to accept what he/she is doing. It's all about 1 word, which is completely sad imo especially for this award...RATINGS.
The honor probably should have gone to Hill, though I don't care about ESPN or awards shows. Why do people watch that stuff when there are so many other things they could be doing?
Lauren Hill and every single other person, child or adult, who has to go through a life threatening condition. Such as this kid:
Quantifying the suffering and subsequent courageousness of individuals is just a wrong thing to do. Its not a contest.
Quantifying the suffering and subsequent courageousness of individuals is just a wrong thing to do. Its not a contest.
For God's sake, he cut off his %#@& and gets an award! What has become of our society?!
proving my point right there. And from what I was told at work yesterday, she hasn't had that operation yet and doesn't plan on it.
ESPN criticized for rewarding Caitlyn Jenner over cancer-fighting hoopster
By Diana Falzone, Fox News
June 3, 2015 | 3:43pm
Caitlyn Jenner on cover of Vanity Fair and Lauren Hill Photo: EPA, AP
Originally published by:
Caitlyn Jenner excitedly wrote on Twitter “What the hell am I going to wear?” when it was announced that the reality star was to be honored at next month’s ESPY’s with the Arthur Ashe Award for Courage.
Caitlyn is the new female identity of former Olympic gold-medal winner Bruce Jenner, which was revealed Monday.
But now some are crying foul over ESPN’s decision to choose Jenner, 65, instead of Mount St. Joseph basketball player Lauren Hill, who courageously battled brain cancer while staying on the university team. The 19-year-old lost her fight against cancer on April 10.
Several fans took to twitter to vent their frustration.
But Hill wasn’t the only overlooked candidate people were made about. Iraq veteran Noah Galloway, who lost most of an arm and a leg in combat, but still competes in extreme sports and almost won this season’s “Dancing With the Stars,” also had hundreds of tweets from fans irate over Jenner’s choice.
ESPN would only say to FOX411 of their decision-making process that “many people are discussed every year” and “there is no such thing as a runner-up.” They also provided a written statement, which said Jenner was chosen “to help move forward a constructive dialogue about progress and acceptance.”
Mount St. Joseph University women’s basketball coach Dan Benjamin told FOX411 his vote definitely would have been for Lauren.
“I can only speak for the journey I went on with Lauren. I cannot speak to anyone else’s. Of course, I want Lauren to get the award,” Benjamin said.
But award or no, the coach is focused on carrying on Hill’s mission.
“In Lauren’s words, if we can get closer to solving cancer, that would be the greatest award,” he said. “We’re biased here. We want to focus on Lauren’s mission to raise money and find a cure for DIPG (Diffuse Intrinsic Pontine Glioma) through the charity she supported TheCureStartsNow.org.”
As for those who are angry about ESPN’s choice, Benjamin takes it in stride.
“The best part of our country is the freedom of speech,” he said. “It’s more important to maintain her mission.”
This article originally appeared on Fox News.
By Diana Falzone, Fox News
June 3, 2015 | 3:43pm
Caitlyn Jenner on cover of Vanity Fair and Lauren Hill Photo: EPA, AP
Originally published by:
Caitlyn Jenner excitedly wrote on Twitter “What the hell am I going to wear?” when it was announced that the reality star was to be honored at next month’s ESPY’s with the Arthur Ashe Award for Courage.
Caitlyn is the new female identity of former Olympic gold-medal winner Bruce Jenner, which was revealed Monday.
But now some are crying foul over ESPN’s decision to choose Jenner, 65, instead of Mount St. Joseph basketball player Lauren Hill, who courageously battled brain cancer while staying on the university team. The 19-year-old lost her fight against cancer on April 10.
Several fans took to twitter to vent their frustration.
But Hill wasn’t the only overlooked candidate people were made about. Iraq veteran Noah Galloway, who lost most of an arm and a leg in combat, but still competes in extreme sports and almost won this season’s “Dancing With the Stars,” also had hundreds of tweets from fans irate over Jenner’s choice.
ESPN would only say to FOX411 of their decision-making process that “many people are discussed every year” and “there is no such thing as a runner-up.” They also provided a written statement, which said Jenner was chosen “to help move forward a constructive dialogue about progress and acceptance.”
Mount St. Joseph University women’s basketball coach Dan Benjamin told FOX411 his vote definitely would have been for Lauren.
“I can only speak for the journey I went on with Lauren. I cannot speak to anyone else’s. Of course, I want Lauren to get the award,” Benjamin said.
But award or no, the coach is focused on carrying on Hill’s mission.
“In Lauren’s words, if we can get closer to solving cancer, that would be the greatest award,” he said. “We’re biased here. We want to focus on Lauren’s mission to raise money and find a cure for DIPG (Diffuse Intrinsic Pontine Glioma) through the charity she supported TheCureStartsNow.org.”
As for those who are angry about ESPN’s choice, Benjamin takes it in stride.
“The best part of our country is the freedom of speech,” he said. “It’s more important to maintain her mission.”
This article originally appeared on Fox News.
Basically Jenner will get the more casual fan to watch the Espy 'a. No one will be tuning in for Lauren Hill or anyone else. Espn could care less what Jenner is doing, the see $ $ $
A great piece in the Sporting News by somebody I've gotten to know in Charlotte really nails this issue.
I would watch a test pattern for two hours before I'd waste my time on the irrelevant ESPY's. It's an ESPN self-love fest. Matters not who they honor and who they don't.
exactly...I wonder if they think he is courageous and a hero. Any thoughts on that Bobbie???
Are you saying that I think she's a hero? Didn't i actually write I don't think she deserves an award, part. a sports -related one (even if it is a fake made-up one)? Way to ignore that, how convenient. She is brave for doing this so late in her life, but at the same time it would have been alot more fair to his ex-wives and children if she had done this decades ago. So this whole thing is a bit of a mixed bag (ahem).
As far as a woman Jenner killed, this is the first I'm hearing about it. What happened now?
As far as a woman Jenner killed, this is the first I'm hearing about it. What happened now?
