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As we inch closer to the college BB season I'll post a series of these kind of question until more BB info is available.

Former tennis star James Blake is owed an apology from NYPD and Mayor de Blasio after being wrongfully cuffed

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Former tennis star James Blake outside the Grand Hyatt Hotel entrance where he was wrongly thrown to the ground and handcuffed by police officers looking for someone else.

He was a young African-American tennis star on the rise, born in Yonkers and raised in Fairfield County, and there was a time at the United States Open tennis tournament, sometimes on the stadium court named after Arthur Ashe, when James Blake made the crowd at Ashe Stadium go wild for him.

There was a time when they thought at the Open that Blake, who left Harvard early to chase his tennis dreams, would at least make it to the last weekend, which he never did, as close as he came.

But they did love him at the Open when he was younger, during this long, amazing dry spell in men’s tennis when no American man has won a major title since Andy Roddick won the Open back in 2003.

“You’d think they could say, ‘Hey, we want to talk to you,’” Blake said. “‘We are looking into something.’ I was just standing there. I wasn’t running. It’s not even close (to being OK). It’s blatantly unnecessary. You would think that at some point they would get the memo that this isn’t OK, but it’s seems there’s no stopping it.”

Blake played with flair and passion and speed, played to the people in the crowd like a showman, and he at least made the quarters of the Open twice. And was once ranked No. 4 in the world.

James Blake also won 10 tournaments and millions in prize money before retiring for good at the Open two years ago, after 14 years as a pro. Blake got married after that and became a father and on Wednesday afternoon, he was a young man, black, on the ground in front of the Grand Hyatt on 42nd St., right next to Grand Central, because some undercover cops mistook him for a criminal.

This is what can happen, even if you once were a tennis star in New York City at this time of year and could do a pretty good job of rocking the house at Arthur Ashe Stadium against stars such as Andre Agassi, once the cheering stops.

“It’s hard to believe this is still happening,” James Blake said to Wayne Coffey of the Daily News after Blake had been put on the ground and handcuffed before the cops who rushed him because they thought he was the bad guy in some scam about identity theft realized, much too late, that they had the wrong guy.

Blake was 25 that year and Agassi was 35, trying to make the kind of run to the semis, at a slightly younger age, that Jimmy Connors had made 14 years earlier, at the age of 39. But Blake, running all the way to Roosevelt Ave. that night to run down shots, was trying to play himself into the semis of the Open, trying to write his own big tennis story, and take out one of the great American players of all time.

He got ahead 6-3, 6-3. He looked young, Agassi looked old. But then Agassi got the third set at 6-3 and got the fourth set by the same score. People who were there that night will tell you how the noise kept getting bigger at Ashe, the way it can, the longer this match went. Finally Agassi won it, 7-6, in the fifth.

When it was over Blake said, “It couldn’t have been more fun to lose.”

Agassi said, “At 1:15 in the morning, for 20,000 people to still be here, I wasn’t the winner. Tennis was.”

Blake was a part of a moment in American tennis like that. He did as much to make the night as Agassi did. Now he flies in from San Diego on the red eye to attend the 2015 U.S. Open and gets made as a criminal and put on the sidewalk by overzealous cops, all white, on 42nd St. while he is waiting for a courtesy car.

“You’d think they could say, ‘Hey, we want to talk to you,’” Blake said. “‘We are looking into something.’ I was just standing there. I wasn’t running. It’s not even close (to being OK). It’s blatantly unnecessary. You would think that at some point they would get the memo that this isn’t OK, but it’s seems there’s no stopping it.”
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This was about Blake being made by a couple of people who said he had been involved in an identity-theft ring operating in the area around the Hyatt and Grand Central for the past week. Before long he was in handcuffs. As it was all happening, according to Blake, he told the cops rousting him to look at his driver’s license, and a credential for the Open that he had in one of his pockets.

Blake said later that one of the cops involved had apologized when he realized they had the wrong guy. The cop who put Blake on the ground — again according to James Blake — never said a word to him. It had apparently been easier putting Blake on the ground like that than forming a simple declarative sentence about being stupid. This wasn’t a member of the NYPD stopping someone for suspicious activity, unless a young black guy waiting for a courtesy car at an official U.S. Open hotel now qualifies as justification for excessive force, here or anywhere in America in the summer of 2015.

Blake’s version of things is that once he was down on the sidewalk the first cop to get to him told him to roll over and not say a word. Blake said he told the cop, “I’m going to do whatever you say.”

The cop told James Blake he was in safe hands. Sure he was. Blake liked New York City better when he had a tennis racket in his hands.

The NYPD owes him an apology. So does the mayor. In what we’re told is such a safe summer in the city, James Blake wasn’t.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...deserves-apology-nypd-mayor-article-1.2354651
 
Mistakes happen, Blake is due an apology from the NYPD, but what does de Blasio have to do with this?
 
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Steve, this is more than just a mistake.

Excessive force was used when it was not called for. Blake was tackled in broad daylight in a suit. There's no reason the officer (with strong backup) could not have just identified himself and then proceeded accordingly.

With all the issues we are having in this country with police action with minorities well thought out behavior should be the prudent course of action. It was not here and that to me is a major problem.
 
What if he legit looked like the dude?
What does that have to do with using common sense procedures? Broad daylight. Man in a suit. 6 officers in the immediate vicinity. Where was the need to tackle and knock down a possible suspect.

If cops have the right in this circumstance to use that kind of force on anyone we are all in trouble.

I assume eventually all the proper people in NY, including the police commissioner and even the mayor will apologize.

It's the prudent course of action to diffuse a potentially bad situation.
 
Why is the fact that he was wearing a suit play into anyone's view on this issue. So if you're wearing a suit you can't be considered dangerous and should be treated differently ? Now I know why John Gotti and Sammy , the Bull, Gravano always wore suits. LOL
 
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Why is the fact that he was wearing a suit play into anyone's view on this issue. So if you're wearing a suit you can't be considered dangerous and should be treated differently ? Now I know why John Gotti's and Sammy , the Bull, Gravano always wore suits. LOL
Just describing his appearance. And yes, believe it or not an unknown man in NY on a sidewalk is profiled (fair or not) by his appearance.

Doubtful a person dressed as Blake was would be carrying anything that could endanger the police. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

That should have at least influenced the officers to handle the situation with caution and not undue force.
 
yea i mean I have the similar sentiment on cops. Remember the stormtrooper shootout a few years ago just spraying bullets everywhere by the empire state building?

I was just wondering how closely he looked like the guy. You have to be pretty confident the guy walking causally out of the hyatt is the felon to up and tackle him no questions.
 
Not quite. The cop in question never reported the incident. His superiors found out about it from watching media reports well after the fact.

The cop is now on desk duty as his badge and gun have been taken from him pending a review.

Blake, probably one of the nicest athletes in the world has handled the incident as well as anyone could ever imagine averting a potentially explosive situation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...rest-reminder-race-u-s-open-article-1.2356336
 
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This cop has been sued 5 times for excessive force. Read the Daily News article today. This guy is a bad dude. He shouldn't have the privilege of being police officer and officers like him do a major disservice to the good guys and girls out there doing their job.

Let's stop being silly the force used was excessive. The officer never apologized for his actions to Blake and Blake may not want to say it but obviously race played a roll. The same thing isn't happening to Jim Courier if he is standing in a hotel lobby dressed in a suit.
 
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Not a word on this site when 9 officers were killed in 10 days. Now some former tennis player gets a bruise on his elbow and its pile on the cops. The cops may have been wrong here, I don't know. I was not there and all the facts are not out. We only heard one side of the story here. The police are not allowed to tell their story until the case is resolved. If the officer turns out to have used excessive force then he will be punished by the court as he should be. If it turns out that he may have used justifiable force believing he was in some sort of danger the court of opinion will still have him guilty.
 
The very same day the Blake incident happened, I heard a police officer on a media outlet speaking about a totally unrelated incident. He said the police went in and did a "felony take-down." He explained that those suspected of committing a felony normally would be slammed to the ground during the arrest as part of police procedure. I believe this is standard operating procedure for the police in many places in the US. But it is at the very heart of the problem. Suspects should be told they are under arrest and given a chance to surrender peacefully, no matter what crime they are accused of. (Innocent until proven guilty.) The home invasion style drug bust is similar in its unnecessary violence. Too many innocent people have been hurt during those. Police are civil servants and need to be trained as such. The para-military style operating procedures need to go.
 
Not a word on this site when 9 officers were killed in 10 days. Now some former tennis player gets a bruise on his elbow and its pile on the cops.
Not a word previously because this happened to an ATHLETE in our vicinity.

This is a sports site. If anyone wants to bring up this type issue elsewhere please go to
Life Off the Ship
 
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The very same day the Blake incident happened, I heard a police officer on a media outlet speaking about a totally unrelated incident. He said the police went in and did a "felony take-down." He explained that those suspected of committing a felony normally would be slammed to the ground during the arrest as part of police procedure. I believe this is standard operating procedure for the police in many places in the US. But it is at the very heart of the problem. Suspects should be told they are under arrest and given a chance to surrender peacefully, no matter what crime they are accused of. (Innocent until proven guilty.) The home invasion style drug bust is similar in its unnecessary violence. Too many innocent people have been hurt during those. Police are civil servants and need to be trained as such. The para-military style operating procedures need to go.

Catholicman, I guess only civilians are "innocent until proven guilty"? I hadn't realized you had all the facts about this case. I try to thank the police for the tough job they do protecting us. I try not to generalize the entire group of them for the poor decisions of a few. I'm sure you would not like to be generalized for some of the actions of some of your peers.
 
This cop has been sued 5 times for excessive force. Read the Daily News article today. This guy is a bad dude. He shouldn't have the privilege of being police officer and officers like him do a major disservice to the good guys and girls out there doing their job.

Let's stop being silly the force used was excessive. The officer never apologized for his actions to Blake and Blake may not want to say it but obviously race played a roll. The same thing isn't happening to Jim Courier if he is standing in a hotel lobby dressed in a suit.
That's my point. Discipline him and if firing him is the right thing to do, then do it. I don't think you can "obviously" say race played a role. You have nothing to back that up other than wanting to support the media narrative.
 
SHUMatt,

I have an immediate family member who is a cop. I am not against the police, even though I have been on the receiving end of so many episodes of police harrassment simply because I looked like a Muslim. The situation with Blake was a typical example of the bad training cops receive and the paramilitary approach to civilian arrests which predominate in this country. I certainly doubt race had anything to do with this situation. But my own personal experience and the hours of evidence documented on such live-footage shows as Cops makes it clear to me that the police need to be trained differently.
 
I watched the film of the arrest. It was not anything out of the ordinary. It was a take down to the ground to effectuate an arrest. So the cop got the wrong guy and he should apologize to Blake for getting the wrong guy. But I did not see excessive force used at all. Those who want to be polite in effectuate arrest politely no matter what the crime is living in fairly land and not living in the reality of the streets. This is really a nonissue.
 
This discussion shows everything that is wrong in this country today. We all get half of the information from news media and make decisions of guilt or innocence based on deficient facts instead of waiting. Presumption of innocence is no longer our motto. First wrong fact - he was in a suit - no he was not in a suit. He was dressed casually. Second wrong fact - Excessive force was used - watching the video this looks like a normal takedown of a suspect. There is no punching, kicking or other activities that we associate with excessive force. Third wrong fact - The officer was put on desk duty because he did not report the incident - he was placed on desk duty because that is standard procedure in these types of situations.

I am not saying Blake is not owed an apology. He is from both the officer and Bratton as a mistake was made. People should always apologize when they make a mistake. But to vilify the officer when we may not know all of the facts is wrong.
 
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Great post lr. Another great example of the media playing fast and loose with facts. And what, no accountability for the media?

This narrative is getting ridiculous. We expect officers of the law to be perfect. We expect them to be tougher than the tough guy criminals that threaten and harm us. We expect them to make snap judgment decisions in milliseconds to protect us and themselves. And we want more spent on training. But when there is a threat of taxes going up to cover all of this the same whiners complain. When there is a mistake, there should be an apology. But what about a a-hole businessman or the neighborhood loudmouth with the cell phone who is pulled over for speeding or arrested for committing a crime? Should we also not ask for apologies from them and their families or the business that owns that company car?

Would anyone on this board sign up to be a police officer or want their kids pursue that career? I recall an interview with the police chief of either Cleveland or Milwaukee, who is black, making a point that police work is dirty. Police officers go to the worst places under the worst circumstances and we expect them to get it right every single time. Good luck with that. He also made a point on profiling. That if you are getting sent to calls every day in the minority neighborhood where the crimes are committed and committed by minorities, your natural instincts will be framed around what you see every day.

Interesting that Dr. Ben Carson is the only candidate who has been to Ferguson. And his comments speak to the kind of leadership that we really need. Not sure he will get my vote, but he gets it.
 
SHUMatt,

I have an immediate family member who is a cop. I am not against the police, even though I have been on the receiving end of so many episodes of police harrassment simply because I looked like a Muslim. The situation with Blake was a typical example of the bad training cops receive and the paramilitary approach to civilian arrests which predominate in this country. I certainly doubt race had anything to do with this situation. But my own personal experience and the hours of evidence documented on such live-footage shows as Cops makes it clear to me that the police need to be trained differently.
So you are not against the police but you feel to group them all and knock their training which I'm sure you never had one ounce it yourself. I've been told never to judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes. From the sounds of it you have never even taken a step in a cops shoes. But hey don't let that stop you.

The media has not been kind to the Catholic clergy for horrific things some of them have done. I still hold priests in high regard and don't judge them all based on the actions of a few.
 
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