EGYPT - What do we do?
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Normally I would agree with those sentiments 09, but it does become our problem as Egypt has been an ally and was the only stable Arabic nation in the region as well as the largest. Should the radicals such as al queda make inroads here it would not be good for America. However quite honestly I do not know what options we have other than sit on the sidelines until the dust clears.
Tom K
Tom K
It's tough because we are subsidizing those committing the violent acts in Egypt, but we can't just pull our funding because then our access to the Suez Canal would be in jeopardy. I'm very much with 09, but this isn't the easiest situation because of how important the Suez Canal is to our oil transportation and economy. It's unfortunate. I think what's going to happen is that the White House, John Kerry, and others will try to say the right things condemning the violence, but we as a nation will just have to accept the blood on our hands with this situation so access to the Suez Canal is not put into jeopardy for the U.S. and our allies.
So many facets to this problem.
Muslim Brotherhood democratically elected, but turned out to run the country in an undemocratic way. They are ousted, with the apparent support of the majority of Egyptians. The propensity for volence by both factions makes picking a side problematic at best.
Bottom line for me is that we should do what we can to keep the Muslim Brotherhood out of power and give the current military leadership time to stabilize and get back to democratic principles, assuming that is their goal.
The US administration took great pains in not labeling the military takeover a coup so that military aid could continue. It seems they are now waffling on that position. I think we should continue the military aid.
What a mess.
Muslim Brotherhood democratically elected, but turned out to run the country in an undemocratic way. They are ousted, with the apparent support of the majority of Egyptians. The propensity for volence by both factions makes picking a side problematic at best.
Bottom line for me is that we should do what we can to keep the Muslim Brotherhood out of power and give the current military leadership time to stabilize and get back to democratic principles, assuming that is their goal.
The US administration took great pains in not labeling the military takeover a coup so that military aid could continue. It seems they are now waffling on that position. I think we should continue the military aid.
What a mess.
One of the problems here as well as in Syria goes back to our support of the Afghanistan rebels in their war with the Soviet Union. After the rebels won they became al queda & turned against us. It could well be that those we support in either country could later on turn against the United States. There are no guarantees in this part of the world.
Tom K
Tom K
You are so right Tom.
A friend of ours is Egyptian and he says the Muslim Brotherhood is aligned with Iran and Turkey and must be stopped - says they are trying to systematically take over each country in the region and ultimately destroy Israel.
In addition the Muslim Brotherhood are burning Coptic Christian churches in Egypt and killing Christians right and left and using this unrest as an excuse to do that. It's a terrible situation. Israel and the Saudis are supporting the forces that are against the Muslim Brotherhood because they know how unstable the region will get if their reign continues.
This is a very bad situation and I think the US is backing the wrong horse here by protesting the unrest. Americans have no idea of how difficult a situation this is. In that part of the world the only thing that gets folks attention is force unfortunately and I think the Egyptians have it right. Too bad they are killing all these people which is wrong. But they are taking a stand to rule their country and not let it get into terrible hands which is the Muslim Brotherhood.
A friend of ours is Egyptian and he says the Muslim Brotherhood is aligned with Iran and Turkey and must be stopped - says they are trying to systematically take over each country in the region and ultimately destroy Israel.
In addition the Muslim Brotherhood are burning Coptic Christian churches in Egypt and killing Christians right and left and using this unrest as an excuse to do that. It's a terrible situation. Israel and the Saudis are supporting the forces that are against the Muslim Brotherhood because they know how unstable the region will get if their reign continues.
This is a very bad situation and I think the US is backing the wrong horse here by protesting the unrest. Americans have no idea of how difficult a situation this is. In that part of the world the only thing that gets folks attention is force unfortunately and I think the Egyptians have it right. Too bad they are killing all these people which is wrong. But they are taking a stand to rule their country and not let it get into terrible hands which is the Muslim Brotherhood.
With all due respect to a very good poster like yourself, I'm sick of hearing about these Israel doomsday scenarios. That is another country with whom we need to break our bond. Israel can defend itself, it doesn't need the Americans to assist in that endeavor.
I do think we need to pull away from others problems. The reality is that the Muslim Brotherhood could be coming to a theatre near you. We'd all be speaking German if the Americans did not get involved in WWII. So its not an easy set of decisions.
Bingo. Without U.S. support, Israel would be squashed in a second and a strong U.S. gateway into the Middle East would be gone. I don't agree with everything Israel does (especially with Palestine, but I don't think any of us here can properly analyze that whole situation), but their political and geographic power is critical to the U.S. Donnie is right, they wouldn't stand a chance if the U.S. withdrew its support and it would severly harm the U.S.
A scenario like that would quickly go nuclear which wouldn't be good for anyone. We need to pull out of Egypt all together and cut off the money going there. The country is already lost to us as far as being a reliable ally in that area. If they want to kill each other and overthrow their government every other month...let them do it.
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