The Masked Ball of Cowardice
How fear of admitting error in trusting China’s coronavirus propaganda is driving Western societies into a doom spiral
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Everyone should read this
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Very well reasoned and researched.
Tablet is an impressive young publication with an explicit focus on the Jewish community. Interestingly, for Catholics, the article's fact pattern is quite consistent with the message of Our Lady of Fatima in 1917. Namely, that Communistic ideologies and institutions would eventually be the instruments of universal chastisement.
Tablet is an impressive young publication with an explicit focus on the Jewish community. Interestingly, for Catholics, the article's fact pattern is quite consistent with the message of Our Lady of Fatima in 1917. Namely, that Communistic ideologies and institutions would eventually be the instruments of universal chastisement.
Not really even sure why an article in August 2021 is talking about lockdowns.... We haven't been locked down for a year. That said.. The premise is just wrong.
Large scale shutdowns have been a part of US pandemic preparedness plans for well over a decade. We didn't decide to do it because it was China's idea.
The concept doesn't defy logic or reason. If you want to stop something, you cut off the source.
The source of an infectious pandemic is person to person transmission. If Covid killed 5% of the people that got it, all of us would have been stuck in our house until it was gone or we had a cure.
The argument is if Covid warranted the shutdowns at all. I will respect the opinions that it did not.
I don't respect that the arguments that we only did so because of China.
They have been a part of preparedness plans. I’ve cited them here previously in the same argument. It’s really not that complex. If you have a pandemic coming and want to stop or slow the spread, you cut off the opportunity for the virus to replicate. That means person to person contact.
If this happens in 10 years with a deadlier virus, we will be locking down. That lockdown will have nothing to do with China.
There also really wasn’t Global coordination. The world probably would not have responded at all if the outbreak was just in China because we couldn’t really trust that China was being honest and transparent. Once it hit Italy the world saw their hospitals getting crushed, countries added preventative measures.
Disagree... but also one of the reasons why they weren’t hit even harder is because we took steps to slow the spread.
"Crushed" is not an accurate term. And we also have to consider (which is mentioned in the article), that the first line of treatment was using ventilators (recommended by WHO) which was the absolute worst thing to do, which ended up accelerating fatalities. Merge, there may be some pandemic preparedness outline sitting somewhere, but having been in the middle of this, hospitals and public health organizations were making decisions on the fly that looked anything but a plan.
The point was that the concept of locking down to stop the spread of a pandemic wasn’t new nor from China. I posted a link here to a pandemic preparedness plan from the CDC in 2005 that talks about lockdowns.
And yes, vents were not the right way to treat this. It was something new which we hadn’t seen before. We treated it like things we had seen before and learned from that.
The term "lockdown" was not new but it covers a lot of geography. The most important lockdown strategy we could have employed initially was to lock down our borders for a period of time to buy some time while we were playing catch up on understanding the virus. But that was highly politicized (Orange man bad) and never done as tightly as we should have. I think the article does raise legitimate questions on the source of the initial recommendations and potential intentions behind it.
Vents were recommended by WHO....hmmmm.
Never before in human history had governments locked down healthy people across the board. This is straight out of the Chinese playbook.
Look at what is still going on in Australia and New Zealand. A total police state. President Xi is laughing at them.
Taking away custody of your son because you are not vaccinated is also a police state. Truly frightening, sheeple.
Had we done a global lockdown in 1918, we would have saved millions of lives. If we had the same access to information then as we have now, we would have locked down.
Again, if Covid-29 kills 5% of those infected. We will lock down and it will be warranted.
They were not “crushed”. But I agree on your second point (my omission on that point was not to be construed that I don’t think some of the shutdowns helped slow the transmission rate)
Here's an example of how stupid some of this has become. I have an employee that is taking on-line courses from University of Pittsburgh. She has never set foot on or will visit the college as it is a 100% remote course. They are requiring her to provide a vaccination card this semester. Didn't realize you can spread COVID on Zoom....lol
Also FWIW, for much of the lockdown, I lived very close to a world famous hospital in the center of a large city. Before the pandemic, the sounds of ambulances and helicopters at all hours of the day and night could get overwhelming.
During the lockdown, and at the height of the global panic, it was absolutely quiet. I never slept as peacefully next to that hospital as I did during the lockdown.
Anecdotal for sure but certainly evidence (especially given the hospital and the city) that the official narratives were at odds with on the ground realities.
Almost as stupid as Amherst College:
Remember when the colleges told these kids that once everyone had the vaccine they would go back to a normal semester? LOL!!! The sad thing is it isn't even funny when you really think about it. It's abusive.
I am amazed that there wasn't a big push against the vaccines mandates at colleges this summer. Guess that's what happens when you raise a generation of woke, soft kids.
Australia has fallen!
" And the government of South Australia, one of the country’s six states, developed and is now testing an app as Orwellian as any in the free world to enforce its quarantine rules. People in South Australia will be forced to download an app that combines facial recognition and geolocation. The state will text them at random times, and thereafter they will have 15 minutes to take a picture of their face in the location where they are supposed to be. Should they fail, the local police department will be sent to follow up in person. “We don’t tell them how often or when, on a random basis they have to reply within 15 minutes,” Premier Steven Marshall explained. “I think every South Australian should feel pretty proud that we are the national pilot for the home-based quarantine app.”
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" And the government of South Australia, one of the country’s six states, developed and is now testing an app as Orwellian as any in the free world to enforce its quarantine rules. People in South Australia will be forced to download an app that combines facial recognition and geolocation. The state will text them at random times, and thereafter they will have 15 minutes to take a picture of their face in the location where they are supposed to be. Should they fail, the local police department will be sent to follow up in person. “We don’t tell them how often or when, on a random basis they have to reply within 15 minutes,” Premier Steven Marshall explained. “I think every South Australian should feel pretty proud that we are the national pilot for the home-based quarantine app.”
Australia Traded Away Too Much Liberty
How long can a democracy maintain emergency restrictions and still call itself a free country?
