When has Seton Hall ever been successful without 4-star recruits? Recruiting three stars kids will get you mid tier in the A-10.
If we don't beat Memphis on Thursday, the schedule will get much easier. Nebraska and someone from the consolation side of the other half of the bracket, will do little for our schedule strength.
Most everyone is going to have to recruit back your own roster. That’s been true for years though now because of the transfer stuff that pre-dates NIL. I think it was Willard’s greatest strength to be honest. By and large, he kept the kids we had to keep. And got them to stay longer than I thought they would, like Angel and perhaps even Myles.
Time to acknowledge that getting the 4 and 5 star players will be near impossible given what we can offer under NIL and that includes transfers as well as the prep players. What that leaves us with is a limited pool of talent to fill out our roster and right now the future looks grim.
This was the exception, not the rule. This is the only time a team seeded so high ever made it to the elite 8. We can not base our hopes on a one in a million shot. As much as I hate paying kids to play college ball it is the sigh of the times. If we don't step up soon with NIL we will be one of the worst teams in high D1.
This is very true. This comes across more negative than I intend, just giving context. I know a kid who was being recruited by Sha (for St. Peters) last year. I would say medium level. He basically had zero idea Sha even made it to the elite 8 or that it was that big of a deal. He cared about playing time, facilities and if the coach puts people in the pros.
As great as that elite 8 run was that team likely doesn't make the tournament grinding through 20 big east games. It was a nice 3 game set where they got hot at the right time. Kudos to them that's what a lot of March Madness is all about. You need some dudes to get through the grind of a 20 game big east schedule. To get dudes you need money. You have for almost a century. Recruiting is no longer about getting players, it's about getting investors in your program.
This is actually kind of sad imho. How does, I presume a local basketball player, have no idea that St. Peter's, a local school that is recruiting him, made the Elite Eight.
I think you answered your own question. Have you talked to a 15-18 year old recently? 90-95% of them are not "fans" of the game. Few have ever even watched a game on TV live in its entirety. Most get clips on tiktok and IG and know the best players or players that have social media clout.
I hear you. I think the advantage you have of keeping a player is that success is both hard and fleeting. Anyone can tell a HS or JUCO kid their program is the best place for him. So the biggest “pot” may have the most pull in many cases.
Why are you so quick with the doom and gloom. Kentucky is struggling with a bunch of 4-5 stars. Nova lost to Temple, Michigan almost lost to Toledo.
I think what some who don’t know about the grass roots or haven’t been connected to it don’t get is that basically every high major D-I recruit, and many mid-major kids too (out of HS) believe they are going to be a professional. And for them that usually means NBA.
Kentucky's "struggles" are directly related to having lost to Michigan State in double OT on a neutral floor and Gonzaga in Spokane.
Does the school caring about NIL or not caring about NIL have anything to do with it? Whether the school cares or not, alums can start an organization and get it done.
I think the school has been very reluctant to get behind the NIL and do what can be done and support it as vigorously as possible. And yes, fans can donate qnd help, but if the school is behind this effort, supporting those trying to raise the money, that would be extremely helpful. I am not sure the school is doing what can be done. Hope I am wrong. But I feel pretty comfortable saying that.
Well in one case, based on what's been stated here, it was to get a figure from us, which was then shopped to NC State to beat, which was then shopped to Memphis to beat and get a deal done.
