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If Wiilard Stays

Pirate64

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Let's say KW stays. Here's what I see..

1. The current furor will cool off. The Final Four will be over and college basketball will take the back burner.til the Fall.

2. But by then we will have sold fewer season tickets and be turned away by recruiting targets.

3. The Beefsteak Dinner will have a lower turnout than last year. Some of us may go just to support Tony. Others will boycott.altogether.

4. The non-conference games at the Rock will be more poorly attended than ever. This won't look good on TV and will be unattractive to recruits. Most importantly, revenue will decline.

5. Willard could be heckled and boo'd at these games. Not good for the University's reputation. .And not good for the players. Humiliating for Kevin.


Please expand this list of side effects.. The BOR will see this and maybe this thread will further illuminate the issue for them.
 
Originally posted by Pirate64:
Let's say KW stays. Here's what I see..

1. The current furor will cool off. The Final Four will be over and college basketball will take the back burner.til the Fall.

2. But by then we will have sold fewer season tickets and be turned away by recruiting targets.

3. The Beefsteak Dinner will have a lower turnout than last year. Some of us may go just to support Tony. Others will boycott.altogether.

4. The non-conference games at the Rock will be more poorly attended than ever. This won't look good on TV and will be unattractive to recruits. Most importantly, revenue will decline.

5. Willard could be heckled and boo'd at these games. Not good for the University's reputation. .And not good for the players. Humiliating for Kevin.


Please expand this list of side effects.. The BOR will see this and maybe this thread will further illuminate the issue for them.
Don't forget the impact to recruiting. Basically a doomsday scenario.

His buyout #s are still a mystery to me, but the last 12 months of revenue from Pirate Blue donations, not just season tickets, but total ticket sales, etc. will give them a baseline to measure the next 12 months of revenue against, in case they're incapable of figuring out an estimate now. Maybe it's a drop in the bucket compared to what he's owed. I imagine it has to be, or is at least based on their projections, otherwise he'd be out already.
 
You forgot recruiting. Never a strong point for Willard. Now label him a lame duck and add negative recruiting by other coaches who will point out how Willard doesn't want to be here. Keeping him another year will set us back 3-4 years easily. Get rid of him now and the right coach might be able to salvage something.
 
This is really a sad post that we have to spell this out for the not so with it BOR to tell them what will happen.

The furor will NOT die down, the voices of discontent will grow louder each day, and the recruiting will become even more difficult for the current staff then it already is.

The BOR, president, and AD are killing the basketball program, by keeping Willard, and by not saying anything either way which makes it a lame duck status.

They need to stop with all the money excuses, transfer of players, SHU is a coaches graveyard, etc., fire Willard and move forward with a quality coach quickly.

If they make the move, players will stay, recruits will come, season ticket sales will grow, and donations will flow.

A national basketball team is the best thing for our university.

After the 1989 season whenever I met somebody and they would ask where I went to college, their response back was always the same,' That's a really good school'. Whether they new anything about the Hall or not everyone knows a winner and associates good things with it.
 
Cannot find fault in anything you said.

I'd add that once again we will be facing finishing in the bottom half to bottom third of the conference with dwindling interest from a shrinking fan base.

And just for a few 'laughs' (or you can cry), lets see if everyone indeed does come back next fall.

Then the real cr*p will hit the fan.
 
Regarding # 2, before the season started I was considering upgrading my 3 cheap seats behind the basket to the foul line level. Given the lousy non conference schedule, I ultimately decided to see how the team would do considering the talented new recruits.

As of now, I'm so disgusted with the state of affairs, that if Willard stays, I don't plan on renewing my cheap seats. Probably not enough fans will do the same to make a difference, but I can't stand watching the tournament selection every year and not see my school being called.

I will always be a fan and root for the team, but for the next season, it will be from my living room.
 
Originally posted by phi_pirates:

Originally posted by Pirate64:
Let's say KW stays. Here's what I see..

1. The current furor will cool off. The Final Four will be over and college basketball will take the back burner.til the Fall.

2. But by then we will have sold fewer season tickets and be turned away by recruiting targets.

3. The Beefsteak Dinner will have a lower turnout than last year. Some of us may go just to support Tony. Others will boycott.altogether.

4. The non-conference games at the Rock will be more poorly attended than ever. This won't look good on TV and will be unattractive to recruits. Most importantly, revenue will decline.

5. Willard could be heckled and boo'd at these games. Not good for the University's reputation. .And not good for the players. Humiliating for Kevin.


Please expand this list of side effects.. The BOR will see this and maybe this thread will further illuminate the issue for them.
Don't forget the impact to recruiting. Basically a doomsday scenario.

His buyout #s are still a mystery to me, but the last 12 months of revenue from Pirate Blue donations, not just season tickets, but total ticket sales, etc. will give them a baseline to measure the next 12 months of revenue against, in case they're incapable of figuring out an estimate now. Maybe it's a drop in the bucket compared to what he's owed. I imagine it has to be, or is at least based on their projections, otherwise he'd be out already.
His buyout figures are not a mystery - mysteries are great unknowns - How did life begin? Are we alone in the universe? etc. The details of his contract, buyout and extension are known, but they are kept hidden from the public because sharing them would be embarrassing, damaging or both. The word you're looking for is secret - the buyout #s are a secret, evidently a dirty one at that

This post was edited on 3/17 4:44 PM by chickenbox
 
Dragnet


Secret, yup, that pretty much hits the nail on the head chickenbox. People know the terms of the buyout and the contract but for reasons we will never know for sure, it will remain a deep, dark 'secret.'

Dragnet had a trademark opening narration:

"Ladies and gentlemen: the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent."

In our case, you can change it to:

"Seton Hall basketball fans: the story you are about to hear is probably false. Only the facts have been changed to protect the guilty".
 
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