Juan Gone!

[SHU_Pirate1]

Tough night. The only way it could have been worse would be if he signed with the Saux.

Now get Pete Alonso!

Juan Soto signing with Mets on gargantuan $765 million contract as Yankees miss out

With one free agent, the Mets have announced their new standing among baseball powers, have stolen from their neighbor nemeses and have altered the landscape of sports in New York.

nypost.com

 

[Jerry1992]

Damn Mets just buying players left and right. Isn’t that the reason most Mets fans used to hate Yankees. Ironic.

 

[Section112]

He went for the money only. Blessing in disguise for the Yanks who should add a top starter now and a few good free agents.

 

[SHUHitman]

He went for the money only. Blessing in disguise for the Yanks who should add a top starter now and a few good free agents.

Sign Walker, Teoscar, and Fried along with some bullpen help and we will be heading in the right direction.

 

[MBF72]

The Yankees will still be better. (Can Soto pitch?)

 

[Seton75]

Damn Mets just buying players left and right. Isn’t that the reason most Mets fans used to hate Yankees. Ironic.

no that was Dodger fans. lol

 

[Piratz]

The most Mets thing ever would be… lmao

Jk. Congrats to Mets fans!

 

[HALL85]

As a Yankee fan, obviously wanted Soto to re-sign, but for that money, they can build around Judge, Volpe, Cole Rodon, etc. and add a lot of pieces. Soto will be missed in that line-up, but if they can spend wisely and upgrade the bullpen, it's not the worst thing that could happen.

 

[newshu1]

Lol alot of coping this am from Yanks fans... hes not even that good, hes not worth the money etc lmao

 

[SHU_Pirate1]

He went for the money only. Blessing in disguise for the Yanks who should add a top starter now and a few good free agents.

The guy I want and we should go all in on is Roki Sasaki. He's been clocked at 102.5 mph and have been hearing comparisons to a young Jacob DeGrom. Was afraid of the Dodgers grabbing him but their recent moves indicates they went in a different direction opening the doors for the Bombers. Originally said grab Pete Alonso to add the big bat and give a shot to the Mets but Walker is probably the safer and more prudent pick for first.

 

[SHUHitman]

Lol alot of coping this am from Yanks fans... hes not even that good, hes not worth the money etc lmao

I wanted Soto very badly, but I won't lie and say I didn't feel some relief for the team not having just locked up $750 million dollars. We've seen how Stanton's salary has affected their decision making, I can't imagine how that would have impacted them for the next 15 years.

I will say that I'm curious about who else the Mets add to their lineup and how well Soto fares as the big man in the lineup. His entire career he has either been protected/surrounded by Harper and Turner, Machado and Tatis, or Judge. His lone season where he was "the man" in Washington saw him hit .240 and finish the year with 68 RBI. Will Mets fans accept him if he's closer to that than the MVP numbers he put up in front of these other guys?

As it stands now, neither Lindor nor Vientos are anywhere near the category of the aforementioned. A lot will be riding on Soto.

 

[rdefabri]

I'm not upset at all - he was a great player but that is a lot of money and a lot of years...it's a gamble. I'm still shocked there isn't a team that has nabbed Trevor Bauer - could get him at league minimum and given that he wants to prove himself, could have a good single year.

In any event, I want to see pitching. Not a ton out there, but they need to focus there.

 

[Section112]

These huge big long contracts can really hurt a team long-term. We saw that with ARod contract, Stanton's contract has hurt at times and now we have a very good hitter who can't run the bases or field on the team for another few years. Pitching is still the most important by far. Get the best staff in the league and fill the holes.

I will miss watching Soto. He's a really fun guy to watch who loves the game. I get it how teams were all over him. He will fill the seats at Citi Field. He's young so hopefully for the Mets the contract ages well. I'm not bitter but he's dead to me now - lol.

 

[SHUSource]

I'm still shocked there isn't a team that has nabbed Trevor Bauer - could get him at league minimum and given that he wants to prove himself, could have a good single year.

There isn't a clubhouse in MLB that wants that dude to be part of it. I don't know if I'm aware of a player who has been more universally despised by his peers than him. You're very unlikely to see him again.

 

[hallstorm]

There isn't a clubhouse in MLB that wants that dude to be part of it. I don't know if I'm aware of a player who has been more universally despised by his peers than him. You're very unlikely to see him again.

Yankees took Chapman off the Cubs hands after his shooting at his girlfriend. Don’t put it past them.

 

[SHUSource]

Good for Soto (and Boras!), who is only getting what someone was willing to bid, but that contract is so disproportionately high relative to his actual value that it is bound to become an albatross at some point, even if Soto continues to be an excellent hitter. (His fielding is, well ... he's a great hitter.)

Bryce Harper's contract, which seemed incredible when he signed it almost six years ago, seems like one of the best bargains in baseball now. A better player (albeit one who is five years older) than Soto for less than half the price.

 

[SHUSource]

Yankees took Chapman off the Cubs hands after his shooting at his girlfriend. Don’t put it past them.

Even Chapman, to my knowledge, isn't loathed the way Bauer is. He's a bad guy, but sometimes bad guys can remain somewhat popular in the clubhouse. I don't think he'd beloved by any stretch, either, but...

 

[Seton75]

Yankees took Chapman off the Cubs hands after his shooting at his girlfriend. Don’t put it past them.

to add to this, the dodgers had signed chapman but broke it off when that incident came to light. then nyy took him.

 

[Seton75]

Good for Soto (and Boras!), who is only getting what someone was willing to bid, but that contract is so disproportionately high relative to his actual value that it is bound to become an albatross at some point, even if Soto continues to be an excellent hitter. (His fielding is, well ... he's a great hitter.)

Bryce Harper's contract, which seemed incredible when he signed it almost six years ago, seems like one of the best bargains in baseball now. A better player (albeit one who is five years older) than Soto for less than half the price.

soto should kiss a picture of ohtani every night.

 

[rdefabri]

Yankees took Chapman off the Cubs hands after his shooting at his girlfriend. Don’t put it past them.

And Bauer was cleared of any charges. He may be a tool otherwise, I don't know him, but man if I want to win - I don't care if you are a complete ass, let's just win. Reggie BITD was hardly a good teammate, but he helped win championships!

 

[SHUSource]

And Bauer was cleared of any charges. He may be a tool otherwise, I don't know him, but man if I want to win - I don't care if you are a complete ass, let's just win. Reggie BITD was hardly a good teammate, but he helped win championships!

Reggie had a monster ego and at a time fifty years ago when some people thought he should stay in his lane. No one would think twice about it now.

Bauer has serious personality issues, is unable to control his angry impulses, is probably a sociopath, likely a violent rapist (there is a difference between innocent and "not guilty," so "likely" is doing a lot of work here), and his teammates (no matter which team we're talking about) hated him. The guys on the Dodgers were thrilled to be rid of him; the few who ever spoke on his behalf were also unpopular. He just isn't worth whatever he brings, even if he can pitch, which isn't a sure thing after a few years away.

Fans might not care, but the guys who have to spend seven months with these idiots do care at some point.

 

[STLPirate12]

It's not exactly a bargain signing, but so what? It's pocket change to Steve Cohen. If he wants to keep Alonso too, he will.

Yankees fans didn't apologize for Steinbrenner signing every major free agent in the 90s/early 2000s and Mets fans shouldn't apologize for Cohen signing 1 major free agent now. It was a long time coming and they should enjoy it!

 

[donnie_baseball]

The Yankees will still be better. (Can Soto pitch?)

They weren't better against the Dodgers. Oh, and 0-4 versus the Mets in interleague play.

 

[shu67]

Soto can hit but he can' t run and is not a very good outfielder. So good riddance. Use the money saved to actually surround Judge with sound ballplayers who can run, field and hit! Baseball is a team support where you need more than a couple of hitters to win. Pitching is the key part of the game that the yanks need to work on too.

 

[Jerry1992]

Dodgers were best team that was clear. Mets took them a game further than Yanks but lost 8-0, 9-0 and 10-2. Yankees games were more competitive but that game 5 collapse was rough. Hope they can meet in next year World Series and settle this. Soto on Mets vs. Alonso on Yanks possibly. Regular season games vs. each other don’t prove much.

 

[SOpirate]

I’m saying this as a Mets fan - the trend of purchasing a contender is not good for the game. There’s something beautiful about a team that’s homegrown growing into a dynasty like the astros or braves of recent years.

Now of course I won’t mind if Soto leads the Mets on a few parades down the canyon of heros.

 

[Section112]

Mets fans will enjoy watching Soto play. He's a threat at bat always and he loves messing with the pitchers and catchers and everyone around him in a fun way. Terrible base runner and below avg fielder even though he has the athletic tools to be much better. With the right coaching maybe he improves defensively.

 

[Seton75]

Dodgers were best team that was clear. Mets took them a game further than Yanks but lost 8-0, 9-0 and 10-2. Yankees games were more competitive but that game 5 collapse was rough. Hope they can meet in next year World Series and settle this. Soto on Mets vs. Alonso on Yanks possibly. Regular season games vs. each other don’t prove much.

imo, the padres could have been the best team. we were fortunate our pitchers brought it in games 4 and 5. imo, sd/la, then phil then mets. nl very tough. nyy 2-3-4 as good as there is (make that was) but the rest not close.

of course, if la has 5 starters healthy...

 

[Jerry1992]

imo, the padres could have been the best team. we were fortunate our pitchers brought it in games 4 and 5. imo, sd/la, then phil then mets. nl very tough. nyy 2-3-4 as good as there is (make that was) but the rest not close.

of course, if la has 5 starters healthy...

Agreed. National League was better overall last year. Still think yanks vs. Mets would have gone 7. Guess we will never know. Congratulations on Dodgers winning it. Well deserved.

 

[SHUSA]

baseball is now a competition between like 4 teams. even as a phillies fan with a massive salary i feel like we have no shot vs the dodgers, yanks, etc.

 

[Seton75]

baseball is now a competition between like 4 teams. even as a phillies fan with a massive salary i feel like we have no shot vs the dodgers, yanks, etc.

phillies can pitch and have a shot. if we get the other japanese pictcher and otani can pitch we could ve ridiculous.

 

[williaza01]

baseball is now a competition between like 4 teams. even as a phillies fan with a massive salary i feel like we have no shot vs the dodgers, yanks, etc.

Texas rangers won last year..and astros have dominated the last 6+

 

[SHUSA]

Texas rangers won last year..and astros have dominated the last 6+

the consolidation happened this year. the playoffs this year was basically the top paying teams and cleveland.

 

[williaza01]

the consolidation happened this year. the playoffs this year was basically the top paying teams and cleveland.

lol ok

…soooooo starting righhhhtt now! Yea ok

Until like 6 weeks ago the dodgers were known for being epic choke job and this was the Yankees first WS in 15 seasons…but you’re right starting right now! Lol gotcha

 

[hallstorm]

imo, the padres could have been the best team. we were fortunate our pitchers brought it in games 4 and 5. imo, sd/la, then phil then mets. nl very tough. nyy 2-3-4 as good as there is (make that was) but the rest not close.

of course, if la has 5 starters healthy...

Phils and Mets were trending in opposite directions at the end of the season.

Mets were the best team from may 31 until the end of the season.

Phillies were 39-16 in April and May and just 56-51 the rest of the season.

 

[STLPirate12]

I’m saying this as a Mets fan - the trend of purchasing a contender is not good for the game. There’s something beautiful about a team that’s homegrown growing into a dynasty like the astros or braves of recent years.

Now of course I won’t mind if Soto leads the Mets on a few parades down the canyon of heros.

Agreed but let's remember that the Mets still have a ton of home grown talent in key positions on their roster - Alonso (if he re-signs), Vientos, Alvarez, Nimmo, McNeil, Peterson, Baty may play a role. Lindor and Diaz were from trades, not free agent signings. It's not like they're just out purchasing a whole team in free agency.

 

[SHUSA]

lol ok

…soooooo starting righhhhtt now! Yea ok

Until like 6 weeks ago the dodgers were known for being epic choke job and this was the Yankees first WS in 15 seasons…but you’re right starting right now! Lol gotcha

yea now that players are starting to defer their salaries like ohtani which never really happened before. current odds. basically every big spender and the orioles, who will have to make decisions after all their rookie contracts are up

• Dodgers +370
• Braves +800
• Yankees +850
• Mets +900
• Astros +1000
• Phillies +1200
• Orioles +1400
• Padres +1500

 

[williaza01]

yea now that players are starting to defer their salaries like ohtani which never really happened before. current odds. basically every big spender and the orioles, who will have to make decisions after all their rookie contracts are up

• Dodgers +370
• Braves +800
• Yankees +850
• Mets +900
• Astros +1000
• Phillies +1200
• Orioles +1400
• Padres +1500

Salaries have been deferred before and only one team currently does it to that extent..and they needed a blown series by the padres to win the WS also Braves have shorter odds than every other big market team

Good stat

 

[Seton75]

Phils and Mets were trending in opposite directions at the end of the season.

Mets were the best team from may 31 until the end of the season.

Phillies were 39-16 in April and May and just 56-51 the rest of the season.

so what. a short series can even out things, specially when pitchers are involved. who thought tge phillies and ariz woukd beat us in the opening rounds? mets vs sd...sd every time?

we cant forget, also, that LA won the WS in 5 games with their best pitcher on the dl, with yamamoto having pitched about 20 inninings since coming off the dl and buehler was pretty much mediocre all season. i love buehler, tough as can be, but 2 tommy js is a tough road to walk. may, gonsolin, kershaw (and trevor bauer, we lost him too)..what other WS WINNER ever threw relief pitcher ganes?

 

[hallstorm]

so what. a short series can even out things, specially when pitchers are involved. who thought tge phillies and ariz woukd beat us in the opening rounds? mets vs sd...sd every time?

we cant forget, also, that LA won the WS in 5 games with their best pitcher on the dl, with yamamoto having pitched about 20 inninings since coming off the dl and buehler was pretty much mediocre all season. i love buehler, tough as can be, but 2 tommy js is a tough road to walk. may, gonsolin, kershaw (and trevor bauer, we lost him too)..what other WS WINNER ever threw relief pitcher ganes?

I don’t get it—a short series can even everything out, sure but the Mets were better than the Phillies the last 4 months of the season and were clearly better in their post season series. Just a better team.

Was San Diego better than the Mets? I’d probably say yes. But I would put the Mets no lower than 3rd with Milwaukee maybe playing better than Philadelphia at the end and Atlanta fading for sure with Sale’s injury.

NL was the dominant league by far this past season—it wasn’t even close.

But LA had the luxury of having a very strong trade deadline acquisition of Flaherty to off set Glasnow (who hasn’t had a good history of post season pitching) and Yamamoto only had one good outing of his 3 in the post season.

The Dodgers ridiculous pitching depth put them in a unique situation in which they could use the bullpen as starters effectively. None of their pitchers had the pressure of being “the guy” and could throw to their strengths knowing someone would replace them if needed.