I wrote this on the TROVE and now will put this out on the free board. Without going over all our justified fears about our yes OUR program here is a last ditch attempt to get Willard out of here and I mean soon. As you all know BOB LEY OF ESPN is a SHU ALUM and loves the program. He is on the BOR I believe yet cannot have anything to do with sports because of his position. He has to know how much trouble we are in. Well lets get many people of great importance meaning fans etc. Have them contact BOB and tell of the desperation that exists here. He is a very powerful person in the world of sports and maybe this ALUM will have the desire to have a sit down with the BOR the AD and whoever else and explain to all of them how important it is to do something and fast. PJ will get involved I know for a fact. Have others through BOB like ADRIAN GRIFFEN MARK BRYANY JERRY WALKER AND ON AND ON all get together once and for all . see what happens. We are desperate and cant hurt to try this. We were afforde a wonderful opportunity to play in the BIG EAST years ago from day 1. Rutgers declined as did HOLY CROSS and Richie REGAN got us in because he knew the importance to SHU. If not we would be a MAAC school all this time. No way with our lack of facilities and WINNING TRADITION would we ever gotten into the league.
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As has been said before, please space out your posts better. they're really tough to read, and most of us want to read them b/c we agree with you.
I am right there with you piratehall but sadly I think it's time to find a way to move on for next year as Willard isn't going anywhere. I have beat the "dead horse" too long now and am resigned to the fact he will be back next year. So time to find something else to focus on and route like heck for Gibbs to stay, a great year next year (NCAA's) and hope Willard uses it as a springboard leave which is what I want.
Will be hard for someone new to come in for 2016 (whether The Hall has a great year - or cr@ps the bed again like this year) given the players that might be gone after next year, but maybe that person can actually consistently recruit and the rebuild won't be too much to overcome...
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Will be hard for someone new to come in for 2016 (whether The Hall has a great year - or cr@ps the bed again like this year) given the players that might be gone after next year, but maybe that person can actually consistently recruit and the rebuild won't be too much to overcome...
This post was edited on 4/15 1:27 PM by dcPirate
pirate hall
I applaud your initiative but I believe the die is cast and if Willard were let go there would be multiple players transferring as we would give them a reason to do so.
I applaud your initiative but I believe the die is cast and if Willard were let go there would be multiple players transferring as we would give them a reason to do so.
I think its time for everyone to just accept for better or for worse we have our Head Coach as is with Willard and all you can do is hope for the best for next season. Time to stop bitching and whining and get on board and support the program.
Misguided as it is, at least this poster has an idea beyond repeatedly calling for Willard's firing on a message board. One can only wonder if he's taken his own advice.
Got
to admit the premise of this post made me laugh. Bob Ley is not going to do
anything, this is just a desperate attempt for Willard haters to
try and get him out of here.
I love Seton Hall as much as most of you, but we have
to be realistic about where Seton Hall stands in the grand scheme of college
athletics. The glory days are long gone, and the old timers IMO need to realize
the days of the hall being in the national championship picture are long over.
College athletics has changed, and it is without a football program it is going
to be very tough to compete at that level. There is too much $ thrown around
that the university just does not have (Case in point not buying out Willard
contract) That is not to say we can't be a consistent tournament participant,
but 1989 is not happening anytime soon.
Outside of that I think the fan base needs to get off
this "Fire Kevin Willard" rhetoric. He is not going anywhere. I
believe we will be seeing him signing a contract extension after next year much
to most of the posters dismay. The team has the talent to make the NCAA, and if
that does come to fruition do we really think the administration will pull the
trigger on firing him then I certainly don't. And to that point, if he does
make a run with the squad next year, will these same posters come back and sign
his praises?
My point being that I believe the real truth on
Willard is not nearly as bad as some delusional posters here think. I get the
frustration, I really do, but I also think it is easy to coach from behind a
computer. At some point the players have to take responsibility also, it's not
just coaching. We have some good recruits in here thanks in part to
Willard, just need to add a solid body to rebound down low with Angel and we
should be in good position to compete in 2015.
Finally
the names being thrown out there as replacements for Kevin Willard are mostly
insane in my personal opinion. Everyone seems to think we are "missing the
boat" with the Hurley’s. What makes anyone think that Seton Hall actually
would have a shot at either of them? (I guess at this point just Danny). Bobby
would have been the easier one to pull. I just don't see Danny leaving URI to
take the hall job. All in at URI he is making about 700-800k. It's not as if
Seton Hall is paying that much more.as I think Willard is making about 1M a
year.
I hope for nothing for the best for the Hall, and I
know I will personally be rooting hard for Kevin Willard and the university to succeed
next year.
This post was edited on 4/15 3:50 PM by SHUBK
to admit the premise of this post made me laugh. Bob Ley is not going to do
anything, this is just a desperate attempt for Willard haters to
try and get him out of here.
I love Seton Hall as much as most of you, but we have
to be realistic about where Seton Hall stands in the grand scheme of college
athletics. The glory days are long gone, and the old timers IMO need to realize
the days of the hall being in the national championship picture are long over.
College athletics has changed, and it is without a football program it is going
to be very tough to compete at that level. There is too much $ thrown around
that the university just does not have (Case in point not buying out Willard
contract) That is not to say we can't be a consistent tournament participant,
but 1989 is not happening anytime soon.
Outside of that I think the fan base needs to get off
this "Fire Kevin Willard" rhetoric. He is not going anywhere. I
believe we will be seeing him signing a contract extension after next year much
to most of the posters dismay. The team has the talent to make the NCAA, and if
that does come to fruition do we really think the administration will pull the
trigger on firing him then I certainly don't. And to that point, if he does
make a run with the squad next year, will these same posters come back and sign
his praises?
My point being that I believe the real truth on
Willard is not nearly as bad as some delusional posters here think. I get the
frustration, I really do, but I also think it is easy to coach from behind a
computer. At some point the players have to take responsibility also, it's not
just coaching. We have some good recruits in here thanks in part to
Willard, just need to add a solid body to rebound down low with Angel and we
should be in good position to compete in 2015.
Finally
the names being thrown out there as replacements for Kevin Willard are mostly
insane in my personal opinion. Everyone seems to think we are "missing the
boat" with the Hurley’s. What makes anyone think that Seton Hall actually
would have a shot at either of them? (I guess at this point just Danny). Bobby
would have been the easier one to pull. I just don't see Danny leaving URI to
take the hall job. All in at URI he is making about 700-800k. It's not as if
Seton Hall is paying that much more.as I think Willard is making about 1M a
year.
I hope for nothing for the best for the Hall, and I
know I will personally be rooting hard for Kevin Willard and the university to succeed
next year.
This post was edited on 4/15 3:50 PM by SHUBK
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My wife's cousin lives in the Houston area and it appears Biggio is on board as well, so we may be all set. And my cousin knows Mo Vaughn personally so I have a request out to him as well.
J/K. The original post isn't a bad one IMO in terms of thinking outside the lines, I mean box. Is Ley really on the BOR for non-sports matters though? If so, was not aware of that.
J/K. The original post isn't a bad one IMO in terms of thinking outside the lines, I mean box. Is Ley really on the BOR for non-sports matters though? If so, was not aware of that.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Even if the team wins 25 games next year that isn't happening (imo). As some alluded to he has a rolling contract extension through 2020. Any extension next year would push many over the egde (not that it would be announced as everything is super secret...), including me.
So you think even if we win 25 games next year he is gone or is it more that you just want him gone no matter what? Just curious, as I think it would be hard to can a guy that wins 25 games in a single year. Then again, they didnt can him after this year so who knows, I guess crazier things have happened.
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