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Usually the Ledger fills the sports front page with tons of positive publicity for the RU programs.

Not so much today.


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Eddie Jordan enters his third season as head coach of the Rutgers men's basketball program. (Photo by William Perlman | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com)

By Steve Politi | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com


Rutgers basketball fans, the tormented few who have stuck with this program during this quarter century of irrelevance, are a special breed of people.

Are they patient? Put it this way: If one of them showed up in your backyard one night with a blanket and told you that he was going to wait for Halley's Comet to reappear, you would nod and bring him some snacks.


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Rutgers honored its greatest season on Jan. 9, 2015, celebrating a 1975-76 team that featured current Scarlet Knights coach Eddie Jordan. (Video by Keith Sargeant | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com)


They have waited, and waited, and waited, and — despite ample evidence telling them that their time and disposable income is far better used elsewhere — waited some more.

So it must have been quite a thrill for them to hear their head coach, in the middle of another hopeless season with a conference losing streak approaching historic levels, lash out at the fans and critics who are rightfully getting a little tired with the 20-point losses and a likely single-digit-win season.

"I'm sorry," Eddie Jordan said, laughing, when asked about the prospect of losing fans over the inability to win a single game in Big Ten play. "If that's the way they feel, I'm just sorry they feel that way. They just have to be more educated into what the real deal is.

"And if they understand what this conference is all about, what types of teams and players we're going against and the situation we're in with injuries and being a young team — if they don't understand that, then I don't need to read what their reaction is. I don't care about their reaction actually."

The amazing part? I'm not sure there has been a Rutgers coach since the bleak early days of Greg Schiano who has been afforded more patience. People are not delusional. They understand the awful situation that Jordan inherited in the aftermath of the Mike Rice fiasco. They get that this historically has been one of the hardest places in the country to win, and being thrust into a conference as deep as the Big Ten has made that even more difficult.



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Can Rutgers risk another winter with scores like 107-57 scrolling across America's flat screens?

And I don't get the sense that fans are wondering why the Scarlet Knights aren't competing for the NCAA Tournament, either. They want to know why Rutgers isn't competing at all for the most part ...and, sorry, a triple overtime loss to a bad Illinois team is not some monumental building block.

Memo to Eddie: You've lost 19 games by 20 points or more in three seasons. That means, more than 22 percent of the time it takes the court, your team has had its doors blown off. You've lost to Fairleigh Dickinson, to William & Mary, to St. Peter's and St. Francis (NY).


It's time for Rutgers fans to open their checkbooks A $100 million campaign has been launched to bring Rutgers facilities up to Big Ten standards, but it won't work unless Rutgers boosters give like their Big Ten counterparts.

You should be thankful for every last fan who bothers to find a seat in the Rutgers Athletic Center on Saturday when Ohio State comes to town. That's what the "real deal" is with this program right now, and Rutgers fans are certainly "educated" enough to know what 6-18 means.

It means, despite having a wonderful freshman named Corey Sanders in the backcourt, that this program is nowhere close to competing in its new conference. Yes, the Scarlet Knights have had awful luck with injuries, but where would this team be if it were completely healthy? One league win? Two?

Yes, Jordan is right: It is hard to win in the Big Ten when you've got a 6-foot-2 guard playing power forward. But he can't just blame bad luck, not when his own poor recruiting and decision to go into the season with only 11 scholarship players available has contributed to this team's depth issues.

"There's always patience in June, July and August," Jordan said. "People say it's a process, it's going to take 4-5 years. In December and January people say what the heck is going on, and they forget about what we said in June, July and August."



PLUS: Why radio voice Chris Carlin gave to the $100m fund

Carlin knows what the Scarlet Knights are up against in the Big Ten after traveling with the football and basketball teams.

Well, the problem is, this is Year 3. It would be easier to accept another lost season if there was any real hope for a significant step forward in 2016-17, but there's just no evidence that's going to happen.

New athletic director Patrick Hobbs is asking fans to invest in a $100 million project to improve facilities, and now the Rutgers basketball coach is telling them he "doesn't give a crap" if people are tired of watching this team descend further into irrelevance with each passing year.

Rutgers fans are patient. This is undeniable given what they've endured the past quarter century. But even they have their limits.

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Rutgers coach Eddie Jordan on fan perception: 'I don't care what they think'

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Rutgers men's head coach Eddie Jordan enters his third season on the banks. (David Banks-USA TODAY Sports)

By Keith Sargeant | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com


With his team in the midst of a 26-game losing streak in Big Ten play and standing 6-18 overall, Rutgers coach Eddie Jordan gave a passionate defense of his men's basketball program following practice on Thursday.

In the process, Rutgers' third-year coach criticized fans questioning the direction of the program, saying he doesn't "give a crap what they think.''

Pressed by Asbury Park Press reporter Jerry Carino on whether he's worried about losing the support of the Rutgers fan base, Jordan said, via ScarletReport.com: "If that's the way they feel, I'm just sorry they feel that way. They just have to be more educated into what the real deal is. And if they understand what this conference is all about, what types of teams and players we're going against and the situation we're in with injuries and being a young team, if they don't understand that, then I don't need to read what their reaction is. I don't care about their reaction actually.''

The Scarlet Knights have dropped 26 straight games against Big Ten foes since upsetting Wisconsin 13 months ago. It marks the longest losing streak in Big Ten play since Northwestern lost 28 straight games against conference opponents from 1998-99 to 2000-01.

Rutgers stands at 0-11 in Big Ten play heading into a Saturday afternoon home game against Ohio State.

"I don't read anything. I don't listen to anything so I don't know what the reaction is out there,'' Jordan said. "I know that we're having a lot of improvement. We've seen growth. We've seen guys compete, give great effort. So nothing outside of that affects me.''

A star player on Rutgers' 1975-76 Final Four team, Jordan owns a 29-59 record since inheriting a program in the wake of one of college basketball's most infamous controversies in recent memory. He is in the third year of a five-year pact that guarantees him $1.15 million this season.




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A by-the-numbers look at where Rutgers' 26-game losing streak in Big Ten play stands.

"There's always patience in June, July and August,'' said Jordan, whose program will miss out on the NCAA Tournament for the 25th straight year. "People say it's a process, it's going to take four or five years. But in December and January, when people say what the heck is going on, then they forget about what we said in June, July and August and when I took over this program. We have a fantastic player in Corey. We've got good, young big men that aren't playing. We've got one of the top junior college players in the country to play here. Now he's out. So if they don't see that type of progress, then I'm sorry they don't see the reality of the situation.''




Is Rutgers guard Corey Sanders the favorite for the Big Ten Freshman of the Year award?

Corey Sanders is a two-time Big Ten Freshman of the Week recipient, but the Rutgers guard has some competition in the race for the yearly honor.

Jordan said he sees signs of progress, pointing at point guard Corey Sanders, a leading contender for Big Ten Freshman of the Year honors. His team has been beset by injuries, with three top forwards sidelined for most of the season, and is set to return five of its top seven scorers in addition to adding Nigel Johnson, a junior guard from Kansas State who is sitting out this winter due to NCAA transfer rules.

Rutgers basketball coach Eddie Jordan talks about graduating from college Rutgers men's basketball coach Eddie Jordan talks about his anticipation with walking in his graduation ceremony on May 15, 2015. (Video by Keith Sargeant | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com)


"(If) people don't see (6-foot-2 guard) Mike Williams playing power forward, then I don't give a crap what they think,'' Jordan said. "If they don't see that dimension on the floor, with what we have to play with, and they look at (6-6 forward) Jonathan Laurent as a backup (center) for us in this conference. I don't care what they think. They're not knowledgeable of what's going on.''

Earlier this week, Jordan announced an indefinite suspension of Deshawn Freeman, a junior-college transfer who had been his team's leading scorer before suffering a season-ending knee injury in late November. In a statement, Jordan said the suspension was for "a failure to meet team expectations.''

"When I took over the program one of the first things I said is we want to recruit dedicated, talented student-athletes,'' Jordan said Thursday. "And if you're not dedicated to being a good student and a good athlete and there's some failure, then I'm not going to stand for it. I want our players and our recruits to understand that that's important to us. That they have to be dedicated to being a good student, being on time, going to class, going to tutoring, going to study-hall hours, getting all of those in, and if you're not doing that, then you're not going to be a part of the team.''

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2016/02/rutgers_coach_eddie_jordan_fans.html
 
How can you bring Jordan back if this team goes winless in conference? There best win in 2 seasons might be FDU. That's a total embarrasment. I see this coming to an end just like Purnell and DePaul last year. He'll resign (they won't fire him cause he is an alum but it's all the same thing) and they will come to some kind of buyout.

I have no clue who is going to want to take that job. Worst P5 job far in the country.
 
Remember when all the classless loser Rutgers posters would come over the SHU Rivals board to disparage SHU, and to pronounce that Rutgers would leave Shoe behind in the dust?

The synergistic combined progress on the football and basketball programs at the LRSH was supposed to make SHU irrelevant, and on the public awareness level of Rider College, within our home state.

That experience for many of us, during the last 15 years, permits us to have a good last laugh at BactoCrack, CaliBadKnight, LCP, and Hinson, among others, for their delusions, and broken dreams. Their two decades of torture is well deserved.
 
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That experience for many of us, during the last 15 years, permits us to have a good last laugh at BactoCrack, CaliBadKnight, LCP, and Hinson, among others, for their delusions, and broken dreams. Their two decades of torture is well deserved.
Don't ever recall LCP being critical or disparaging of SH or its bball program. Get you facts straight.
 
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will be interesting to see if Jordan gets another year or not. He probably deserves one more year, but even when they were healthy, I thought his teams played lousy D, and didn't show much anything else. Also not sure RU could afford to pay him off and go after a decent hire right now.
 
will be interesting to see if Jordan gets another year or not. He probably deserves one more year, but even when they were healthy, I thought his teams played lousy D, and didn't show much anything else. Also not sure RU could afford to pay him off and go after a decent hire right now.
Hobbs in charge. Think extension!
 
Whenever they were halfway decent while in the BE their fans were jerks. They suck.

Oh well. I hope we continue to play them 1 time a year and we beat the crap out of them.
 
ShuPat is right on target with his observations.

The tiny inbred clan of RU faithful were always hoping and posting that the great upward mobility that was imminent for 20 years at Rockhead U would leave SHOE in the hopeless position that RUTGERS is now locking into.

I hope that the Big 10 brass is happy with the extra 23 TV viewers that they have acquired in.the NY media market, by adding Rockhead U to their conference.

It would not surprise me to see the Big 10 brass kick RU out in 3 years, and bring UConn in, as UConn actually has a broad fan base that watches their teams.
 
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ShuPat is right on target with his observations.

The tiny inbred clan of RU faithful were always hoping and posting that the great upward mobility that was imminent for 20 years at Rockhead U would leave SHOE in the hopeless position that RUTGERS is now locking into.

I hope that the Big 10 brass is happy with the extra 23 TV viewers that they have acquired in.the NY media market, by adding Rockhead U to their conference.

It would not surprise me to see the Big 10 brass kick RU out in 3 years, and bring UConn in, as UConn actually has a broad fan base that watches their teams.
I guess I just don't lug this much anger around, but I think Rutgers basketball falling down on its face is its own reward. I really don't see it as a vessel to punish otherwise decent people who just have the misfortune of rooting for the worst program in the country. Yes, there were many misguided predictions of their ascendance and own irrelevance, and while Seton Hall still isn't on the tip of everyone's tongue, I think the situation at Rutgers explains itself. But still, the Big Ten is not kicking Rutgers out any time soon. They knew what they were getting: more eyeballs in which to sell BTN to cable providers. That Rutgers basketball and football can't get out of their own way is an added bonus - the league gets its greater revenue without actually having to upset the competitive apple cart and see the newcomer win anything. They don't care if Rutgers performs well - in fact, they probably prefer they don't. They still get their money, and Ohio State still wins everything.
 
I don't think SH fans were punished cause we were jerks from 80 to 88. We just weren't any good. Same for ru. They have good and bad fans, like we do.

Agree, and for the good ones, I feel badly. The games against them have become non-competitive, and really aren't much fun.

For the others, and D&M named a couple (I don't understand about Hinson though, he seems like a good guy), it does make you smile every now and then, particularly since they were so convinced that this (insert anti-Catholic or academic snobbery adjective here) SHU program was going to be left for dead, compared with the heights THEY were going to achieve.
 
... it does make you smile every now and then, particularly since they were so convinced that this (insert anti-Catholic or academic snobbery adjective here) SHU program was going to be left for dead, compared with the heights THEY were going to achieve.
There is an Irish saying about how "the work praises the man." There must be a similar one for this phenomenon, how those sorts of statements now speak for themselves. Maybe not. Even still, it is satisfying to see that sort of hubris unraveled.
 
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I kind of miss the old Message Board wars between RU and SHU fans. The fact that RU's Mens BB program is in such a total state of disrepair while we are on the rise doesn't make me happy. It would be better for our rivalry if they were competitive.
 
Eddie not feeling the luv from RU fans and, per his wife's participation on the Housewives, apparently not feeling the love at home either. Yikes!
 
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