LOTS Majority Wrong Again
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Typical. If you can’t play the race card; play the sexism one. So lame.
come on man. this is not the hill to die on. the product sucks, you cant force people to watch or care. it has nothing to do with them being women. theyre probably equivalent to the phillipines mens national team. would anybody watch that league? no.
people dont even watch the d league who actually have nba players in them.
the only reason wnba survives is to push the female agenda and insert gender into a space that doesnt need it. without the nba throwing an absurd amount of money at it the league would have folded 20 years ago.
spk is right, there probably were maybe a hundred more viewers, and i can guarantee they were all gamblers now that sports betting is ramping up.
the old saying still rings true. im a massive die hard sports fan but id rather get $5 than my wnba team winning a championship.
I agree it isn't really a good product especially compared to the NBA, but if the NBA didn't see potential to sell the product then it would be gone. They aren't operating a non-profit... and to be fair, if you watch now compared to 20 years ago, their product has gotten much better.
Funny you post total con artist colin cowherd in response to this. He is one of the main culprits why FS1 has no legitimate viewership.
I wouldn’t know their full details, but they aren’t around to lose money. Someone believes they will eventually be profitable and if they no longer believed that, there would be no more WNBA.
Not true. They simply caved to liberal pressure. Talk to any c suite exec and the amount of time they spend on those issues is disproportionate to other issues.
The league has yet to turn a profit after 23 years. Just because you think it’ll make money doesn’t mean it will. NBA has deep pockets and I can understand why it would be a good will write-off.
i dont love him but he articulates it well. its very simple. people make what people want. you dont see neccos and good n plenti commercials every halloween do you? you should be ecstatic the nba has promoted this corpse for years. because it surely doesnt deserve it. nba going above and beyond, giving special preferential treatment for women when they dont deserve it. nba should be praised by you.
But there is a reason they are there. Maybe they want a loss, maybe they want the good will in the area, or maybe they believe the product will eventually be profitable. The league exists because of a benefit (or future benefit) to their owners.
What about MLS? Why does that league exist? Their ratings are horrible and they aren’t turning a profit either.
Yeah, that was my point. They are fine with the loss because it helps their image. But since the product has lost money for over two decades is pretty darn good proof that the consumer is not buying tar product.
But they recently changed the ownership structure and have been marketing differently and now in more targeted markets and had some success improving ratings.
It's not a philanthropic venture. Their goal is to make money.
If that’s the case, then they suck at it. I doubt the original business plan said “we’ll be profitable in 30 years”....
It was the most watched TV program of the night. Yes off the mark of a typical time in June when it would air.
Let's break this down because at LOTS we try not to teach stupid. In a broadcast TV model in a typical year, all series that launched an 18 to late 20 episode season across network TV would typical end by third week in May. The NBA Finals typical air and begin in the week after Memorial Day.
In this instance, network TV is back with fresh shows vs in June when it would be in repeats.
Big Brother and Masked Singer combined for 10.7 million viewers last night. NBA still won the night. Less than their typical audience. Also if Dragic and Bam are out this wont be much of a series or a long series.
tv doesnt let some shows air for more than a few weeks, wnba gets a 20 yr grace period? cmon. arent most people here from stillman?
the wnba is absolutely a philanthropic image tactic. 20 years is 10x more proof than you need. it sucks. no other major sport is offering a womens version.
yea in 1000 years eventually youll be right.... actually probably not with wnba. i bet esports nba beats out wnba first. id bet everything i own on it
the wnba is absolutely a philanthropic image tactic. 20 years is 10x more proof than you need. it sucks. no other major sport is offering a womens version.
yea in 1000 years eventually youll be right.... actually probably not with wnba. i bet esports nba beats out wnba first. id bet everything i own on it
So wnba has the best former us collegians that played in recent modern history and foreign super talents. Sure there isnt dunking or same athleticism but the best are equally as skilled to the men counterparts in dribbling, passing, play making and shooting. Wnba players have made up olympic gold medal teams since 1996.
Seton Hall women's program would kill to have have a caliber talent that can be a rotation player on a wnba roster.
I believe they have 60 mil dollar revenue as a league but their former BRI was 20 to 30 percent, now its 50 percent i believe.
yes they play an abbreviated schedule to nba and also in spring/summer which in past has allowed players out of neccesity to play overseas for more money. Yes individual clubs have lost money. Yes franchises have moved cities or folded.
They competed against ABL back in day, ABL left.
Would a fair narrative here be that the US Women's National Soccer team is pretty damn good? Yet, the top stars of that team and best international players have struggled to sustain success in multiple pro soccer leagues US based in last 2 decades.
I believe it is good for adolescent females to see this product and for it to have advocacy and support.
That’s a great rant, but an enormous deflection. No one is saying they aren’t talented athletes...they are, just as the Women’s Soccer League.
The problem is that neither has proven to be a salable product that can turn a profit.
They lose $10M per year.
WNBA crossroads: league looks to cut losses, hire president
Year closes with WNBA at crossroads: Quality of play is strong but not league balance sheet
www.usatoday.com
Because soccer is the worlds most popular sport and as more and more people come to America they hope it takes off.
I've watched a lot of the playoffs this year but very few teams have an answer for Davis. This is probably going to be a boring series unfortunately.
The MLS has been around longer than the WNBA. The majority of teams don't make any money.
I'd agree there is much more potential with MLS which would have a significantly higher ceiling than the WNBA but I don't think the WNBA is around just to lose money. I'd bet the owners believe this product will eventually be profitable but I agree they need to do a much better job marketing and presenting a better product.
the best are not equally as skilled by a gigantic margin, the nba mens talent level playing against each other is the highest concentration of talent in any sport , maybe top level soccer.
and why do you immediatly try to gloss over athleticism??? thats the whole goddamn point. they arent athletic, arent dunking, arent hitting 3s from the logo. thats the entire draw of it, dismiss that and dismiss any rational take. sure mlb guys hit 400ft homeruns but... sure mlb guys hit 100mph on the gun but, sure nfl players hurdle defenders but... sure nhl guys toe drag stick lift for great goals but...
its easy to defend something when you remove the entire entertainment value.
bro Seton Hall MENS team would kill to have ans NBA rotation talent even more than the womens!!! what does that even mean??
hour last comment proves its entirely about image and philanthropy..." itd be good for young girls to see"
yea it would and thats the only reason it exists. sorry to say but nobody wants to watch anyones daughter play basketball unless they perform at the top levels. you ever see the hype for womens gymnastics during the olympics but not mens? its because they are more fun to watch.
and mls has been starting to ramp up signing international legends (after their prime) which has shown to increase draw. rumors of messi to nyc already begun. imagine if they sign someone during their prime. i can actually name soccer players. i cant name any wnba players not one and im a huge sports fan
you dont know Diana Taurasi, Sue Bird, Elanna DelleDonne, Britney Griner, Sabrina Ionescu, Liz Cambage, Aja Wilson?...i dont follow NHL at all can still name 5 of the top talent
ah i do know diana taurasi and brittany griner. i feel like they must be old now.
the others i have legitimately never heard of.
Sue Bird, player at CTK in Queens her last 2 seasons of hs, team went undefeated her senior season and won a NY state federation title. She won 2 chips at UConn, longested tenured WNBA player, 3 titles in league, most all-star appearances in league history and the most accomplished medalist in US Women's National Program history across Olympics and Worlds...she swept all major individual player awards senior season at Uconn
and ive never heard of her. think of all the accolades dart players have. havent heard of them either.
It is impossible if you are from the metro area that you never heard of her...quarter century High School to now
You can’t be serious. If you pulled 100 random people from the Metropolitan area, maybe five know who she is; probably less than that.
its not impossible at all because i dont. i actually do remember a uconn womens player, maya moore. i have to think hard about it. i believe that was when uconn was like 82-0 (which emphasized how awful the product is)
edit: i googled her. have no idea. i think i was too young to know her or taurasi got all the hype. i didnt grow up in the ny area
But we follow basketball...this is a basketball site. I know my wife and three daughters would have no clue who she is.
That's just dumb. I'd bet at minimum 10% of NYers have no clue who DJ LeMatheiu is. And you expect them to know who Sue Bird is? Far from impossible.
