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What was wrong with the reporting at the time?

They cleared with urgency prior to Trump getting there so Trump could get his photo with a book he has never read. Having planned to clear that park prior to that moment doesn't change what happened.
 
What was wrong with the reporting at the time?

They cleared with urgency prior to Trump getting there so Trump could get his photo with a book he has never read. Having planned to clear that park prior to that moment doesn't change what happened.
But the MSM narrative was that Trump had the park cleared.
 
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But the MSM narrative was that Trump had the park cleared.

and? Do you think the timing of them clearing it out when they did with the urgency that they were using had nothing to do with Trump's visit? You think the AG asking if the people would still be there when Trump got there wasn't to light a fire under their assess?
 
and? Do you think the timing of them clearing it out when they did with the urgency that they were using had nothing to do with Trump's visit? You think the AG asking if the people would still be there when Trump got there wasn't to light a fire under their assess?
Did you read the report?
 
Did you read the report?

Yes.

Park police had the plan in place. That plan included 3 disbursement warnings before moving in.
7 minutes before any warnings, the secret service moved in and deployed pepper spray. It's right in the report.

The urgency changed because Trump was on his way to get his photo.
 
Yes.

Park police had the plan in place. That plan included 3 disbursement warnings before moving in.
7 minutes before any warnings, the secret service moved in and deployed pepper spray. It's right in the report.

The urgency changed because Trump was on his way to get his photo.
You skipped the first paragraph...
 
You skipped the first paragraph...

I read the whole thing.

"The USPP incident commander told us that at approximately 5:30 p.m., he briefed representatives from the USPP, the Secret Service, the MPD, and the ACPD in Lafayette Park on the final operational plan, communicating orally using his handwritten notes."

"At 6:16 p.m. on June 1, 2020, the Secret Service Exited Madison Place and Entered H Street Before the USPP’s First Dispersal Warning At approximately 6:16 p.m., contrary to the operational plan and before the USPP gave the first dispersal warning"

"The USPP and ACPD civil disturbance unit commanders told us they were surprised when they saw the Secret Service enter H Street before the USPP had given any dispersal warning"

"The USPP civil disturbance unit commander, the USPP operations commander, and the USPP incident commander all told us that the Secret Service lieutenant later apologized for the early entry onto H Street during the operation but did not explain why it occurred. The USPP officers we interviewed did not know why the Secret Service entered H Street before the USPP gave the first dispersal warning"


The question as to why the Secret Service went in early, contrary to the operational plan which they were briefed on was not answered in the report.
 
"The evidence we obtained did not support a finding that the USPP cleared the park to allow the president to survey the damage and walk to St. John’s Church,” the report said.
 
The question as to why the Secret Service went in early, contrary to the operational plan which they were briefed on was not answered in the report.

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"The USPP officers we interviewed did not know why the Secret Service entered H Street before the USPP gave the first dispersal warning. Some speculated it occurred because of miscommunication between a Secret Service supervisor and his officers near the gate area. Others guessed it could have occurred because the USPP and the Secret Service did not have a shared radio channel and had no way of intercepting and resolving conflicting radio communications. The USPP acting chief of police, USPP incident commander, and USPP operations commander all told us they had no reason to believe that the Attorney General's visit to the park at 6: 10 p.m. influenced the Secret Service's early deployment."
 
Why did the secret service ignore the plan and go in early? Speculated “Miscommunication” lol... Come on... If Trump wasn’t heading over there, that wouldn’t have happened. The park still would have been cleared out eventually. Maybe it would have gone worse, maybe better. You think the attorney general shows up there if Trump wasn’t going there?
 
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Finally, we found that the USPP and the Secret Service did not use a shared radio channel to communicate, that the USPP primarily conveyed information orally to assisting law enforcement entities, that an assisting law enforcement entity arrived late and may not have received a full briefing on the rules of engagement, and that several law enforcement officers could not clearly hear the incident commander’s dispersal warnings. These weaknesses in communication and coordination may have contributed to confusion during the operation and the use of tactics that appeared inconsistent with the incident commander’s operational plan.
 
Scroll over my name and hit ignore if you have no interest in discussing something with someone who may disagree with you.
You sound like pee wee Herman. And Shore guy is like Lloyd Christmas. Makes me laugh so I rather not ignore.

this is not a discussion by the way. it’s a silly message board.

can you post another meme soon?
 
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Finally, we found that the USPP and the Secret Service did not use a shared radio channel to communicate, that the USPP primarily conveyed information orally to assisting law enforcement entities, that an assisting law enforcement entity arrived late and may not have received a full briefing on the rules of engagement, and that several law enforcement officers could not clearly hear the incident commander’s dispersal warnings. These weaknesses in communication and coordination may have contributed to confusion during the operation and the use of tactics that appeared inconsistent with the incident commander’s operational plan.

You must think the secret service are really bad at their jobs. To be unaware of how to communicate, and to know the president is coming and not have that impact their timing.
 
I don't know what basis you have to make the claim that I don't think the secret service are good at their jobs.

I have the utmost respect for the secret service. They're a customer of mine.

How about this for a scenario.

President comes out early. Secret Service tries to contact the park police but can't because of the bad communications. Mixed radio frequencies etc. Different radio frequencies. It's been a chronic issue with multi-agency actions for years. Just the way it is.

They make a tactical decision to move in early. Are you going to fault that?
 
I don't know what basis you have to make the claim that I don't think the secret service are good at their jobs.

I have the utmost respect for the secret service. They're a customer of mine.

How about this for a scenario.

President comes out early. Secret Service tries to contact the park police but can't because of the bad communications. Mixed radio frequencies etc. Different radio frequencies. It's been a chronic issue with multi-agency actions for years. Just the way it is.

They make a tactical decision to move in early. Are you going to fault that?

Nope. I don’t fault them at all. They did what they should have done.

President says he is on his way somewhere, it’s their job to make sure it’s safe for him.

I’m just saying had he not been going there for the photo op, the AG would not have shown up there and there would have been no reason to rush the plan in place.
 
You sound like pee wee Herman. And Shore guy is like Lloyd Christmas. Makes me laugh so I rather not ignore.

this is not a discussion by the way. it’s a silly message board.

can you post another meme soon?
In other news Ivanka trump dropped the n word multiple times and it’s being widely reported in MSM,she’s soon going to be cancelled....and to boot her wealth is attributed solely to her parent/child relationship with a powerful political figure
 
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