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Nice move in NET. 58 from 66
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Blowouts are great for the metrics. Nice when they come in Q2 wins. Although if Butler keeps playing like this they could fall out of that range (#135 is the line, they're at #111).
Let's get another one Wednesday night at St. John's (#86). They look fried, but always give us a rough game once a year.
Let's get another one Wednesday night at St. John's (#86). They look fried, but always give us a rough game once a year.
Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75.
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135.
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240.
Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353.
Seton Hall is #58 in the NET today, We are 3-5 against Q1, 1-3 against Q2. The only bad loss is Siena, Q3 (#154 today). We beat #41 Memphis at a neutral site, won at #20 Rutgers, and beat #7 Connecticut at home.
That waste of a game to the D11 Lincoln team doesn't factor into any of this. The Hall is 12-9 overall in the metrics, not 13-9.
We absolutely cannot have a loss this week:
Wed at #86 St. John's
Sun vs. #166 DePaul
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| SCHOOL | CONF | CPCT. | OVERALL | PCT. | HOME | AWAY | NEUTRAL | STREAK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marquette | 9-2 | .818 | 17-5 | .773 | 11-1 | 5-3 | 1-1 | W3 |
| Xavier | 9-2 | .818 | 17-5 | .773 | 11-1 | 5-2 | 1-2 | L1 |
| Providence | 8-2 | .800 | 16-5 | .762 | 12-0 | 4-3 | 0-2 | W2 |
| Creighton | 7-3 | .700 | 13-8 | .619 | 10-1 | 1-4 | 2-3 | W4 |
| Seton Hall | 6-5 | .545 | 13-9 | .591 | 8-3 | 4-4 | 1-2 | W1 |
| UConn | 5-6 | .455 | 16-6 | .727 | 11-2 | 2-4 | 3-0 | L1 |
| Villanova | 4-5 | .444 | 10-10 | .500 | 6-2 | 3-5 | 1-3 | W2 |
| St. John's | 3-7 | .300 | 13-8 | .619 | 9-3 | 1-5 | 3-0 | L2 |
| Butler | 3-9 | .250 | 11-12 | .478 | 8-4 | 2-6 | 1-2 | L4 |
| DePaul | 3-8 | .273 | 9-13 | .409 | 7-4 | 2-7 | 0-2 | L3 |
| Georgetown | 1-9 | .100 | 6-15 | .286 | 5-7 | 0-7 | 1-1 | W1 |
UConn - the oddest story in the league IMO - has DePaul and Georgetown up next this week, both on the road. They should get it right with decisive, big-margin wins before a HUGE week for them afterwards ,hosting Marquette on February 7th and going to Creighton on February 11th.
Is there a better example of how off Kenpom is? kill a bad team good. Beat a good team, big deal
Yeah bc it's not weighed as results-based against caliber of opponent. Which in sports is funny bc that's the point, lol. The NET was supposed to do more of that with the mysterious formula, quads, etc.
But KP has great value to assess teams aggregate level of play and strengths/weaknesses at a given point in time. But you have to dig into the trends. It's a better scouting tool than trying to rank teams on a profile which should be based on actual results. That's why even Ken Pomeroy himself basically tells people to use it that way and not as the be-all, end-all to evaluate a team's NCAA Tournament profile.
I am not digging the idea that i have to dig. So i will just bitch...lol
The value in winning games like this is more in not losing than anything else. There is a lot to be said for taking care of business and moving on.
The win isn't a big deal but a loss can be crushing for your resume. More so if you already have one or more of those losses weighing you down.
With credit to @Hall Is Life for pointing this out to me, here’s a good website for tracking NET and resume by quadrant.
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Seton Hall Pirates Nitty Gritty at Bracketologists
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Exactly, and that is why so many of us called this a must win.
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