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Nicole Maliotakis - Seton Hall grad - for Mayor of NYC

Not much of a chance but let’s root for her against Deblasio.

Never heard of her but DeBlasio is perhaps the worst politician in the country. He represents everything wrong about the far left, politically correct crowd. A new mayor couldn't be worse.
 
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She’s the Republican against Deblasio. They send the worst politicians and then we wonder why dopey leftists win elections. NY is the worst just like other big USA cities.
 
I doubt either of you have actually followed Deblasio closely since he was elected. Yes, his attempts at nat'l prominence have fallen flat, he's not the most charismatic and his feuds with the media are dumb (his feud with that fake Cuomo is not). But I choose to look at his accomplishments as being way more important:

- crime continues to drop
- the city economy is still way up
- he ran on & governs most strongly on fixing income equality, and he has gotten a good amount accomplished there, with more coming next term...rents have been frozen & affordable housing is being built more rapidly and in direct response to Bloomberg's flippant approach.
- school test scores have gone up
- the racist stop & frisk policy was stopped
- he got universal pre-k through for all city residents
- marijuana decriminalized a bit

I'm also loving his new plan (along with Bernie) to fund the MTA improvements with a tax on millionaires. Hope that actually happens. And spare me the "omg the rich are gonna leave" argument before you even type it. That's garbage.

Sorry he doesn't cater to your suburban, center-right (or worse) interests. His base are the lower middle class, minorities and poor of the city, and he governs to attempt to better life for them moreso than Bloomberg, who was more concerned with making Manhattan a wistful playground for his rich friends.

I'd be curious if either of you live or work in the city. Somehow I doubt it.

I interned with Malliotakis at WKTU & we did many events together bc we both lived on SI. She was a clueless girl with no direction who fell into politics bc of her family after she graduated bc she had no idea what she wanted to do with her life (obviously not radio...at least she was smart there haha). She was, and still is, a spoiled daddy's girl who had everything handed to her. She has no instinct for governing, or a hunger to effect change. This (local gov't, not running for mayor) is just something for her to do bc she needed a job. She's going to get slaughtered on Tuesday and rightfully so. A 37 year old Trump voter with no life experience or accomplishments in government has no business running the biggest city in the world, a job more important than most governor positions. But I guess kinda sorta kudos to her for publicly taking the hit for the local Republican party though when Massey dropped out. She was willing to get embarrassed in this election so she can get something more kushy on SI after her term-limited Assembly job is up. Smart move there.
 
I doubt either of you have actually followed Deblasio closely since he was elected. Yes, his attempts at nat'l prominence have fallen flat, he's not the most charismatic and his feuds with the media are dumb (his feud with that fake Cuomo is not). But I choose to look at his accomplishments as being way more important:

- crime continues to drop
- the city economy is still way up
- he ran on & governs most strongly on fixing income equality, and he has gotten a good amount accomplished there, with more coming next term...rents have been frozen & affordable housing is being built more rapidly and in direct response to Bloomberg's flippant approach.
- school test scores have gone up
- the racist stop & frisk policy was stopped
- he got universal pre-k through for all city residents
- marijuana decriminalized a bit

I'm also loving his new plan (along with Bernie) to fund the MTA improvements with a tax on millionaires. Hope that actually happens. And spare me the "omg the rich are gonna leave" argument before you even type it. That's garbage.

Sorry he doesn't cater to your suburban, center-right (or worse) interests. His base are the lower middle class, minorities and poor of the city, and he governs to attempt to better life for them moreso than Bloomberg, who was more concerned with making Manhattan a wistful playground for his rich friends.

I'd be curious if either of you live or work in the city. Somehow I doubt it.

I interned with Malliotakis at WKTU & we did many events together bc we both lived on SI. She was a clueless girl with no direction who fell into politics bc of her family after she graduated bc she had no idea what she wanted to do with her life (obviously not radio...at least she was smart there haha). She was, and still is, a spoiled daddy's girl who had everything handed to her. She has no instinct for governing, or a hunger to effect change. This (local gov't, not running for mayor) is just something for her to do bc she needed a job. She's going to get slaughtered on Tuesday and rightfully so. A 37 year old Trump voter with no life experience or accomplishments in government has no business running the biggest city in the world, a job more important than most governor positions. But I guess kinda sorta kudos to her for publicly taking the hit for the local Republican party though when Massey dropped out. She was willing to get embarrassed in this election so she can get something more kushy on SI after her term-limited Assembly job is up. Smart move there.
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One of our daughters (28) lives in Williamsburg and works in Tribeca. She has lived in New York since graduating high school. (FIT grad). Hells Kitchen, Alphabet City, East Village, Williamsburg. My nickname for her is a "bohemian capitalist". Wanted Bernie; voted for Jill Stein. Total opposite point of view about DiBlasio. Quality of life has declined. More homeless, dirtier streets, service decline, etc. and funny how Bobbie glosses over the corruption, pay for play. As she reminds me; he is an absent mayor that instills zero leadership. And yes, I am a proud Daddy.
 
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I doubt either of you have actually followed Deblasio closely since he was elected. Yes, his attempts at nat'l prominence have fallen flat, he's not the most charismatic and his feuds with the media are dumb (his feud with that fake Cuomo is not). But I choose to look at his accomplishments as being way more important:

- crime continues to drop
- the city economy is still way up
- he ran on & governs most strongly on fixing income equality, and he has gotten a good amount accomplished there, with more coming next term...rents have been frozen & affordable housing is being built more rapidly and in direct response to Bloomberg's flippant approach.
- school test scores have gone up
- the racist stop & frisk policy was stopped
- he got universal pre-k through for all city residents
- marijuana decriminalized a bit

I'm also loving his new plan (along with Bernie) to fund the MTA improvements with a tax on millionaires. Hope that actually happens. And spare me the "omg the rich are gonna leave" argument before you even type it. That's garbage.

Sorry he doesn't cater to your suburban, center-right (or worse) interests. His base are the lower middle class, minorities and poor of the city, and he governs to attempt to better life for them moreso than Bloomberg, who was more concerned with making Manhattan a wistful playground for his rich friends.

I'd be curious if either of you live or work in the city. Somehow I doubt it.

I agree with you on Cuomo. Total phony.

Crime has steadily fallen in New York City for the last 30 years. Most people credit Giuliani for that, but I think this trend would have continued regardless. I don't think any particular mayor has a major impact on it, Giuliani or DeBlasio included.

The "income equality" issue that we seem to hear more and more about is shallow and just feels like jealousy to me. Your income potential is a product of your skills and the labor market. Want to make more money? Further your education, acquire more skills and get a better job. There are some people these days who just want a hand out and don't want to work for it.

I do believe stop and frisk was an abuse of power. It violates the 4th amendment when there is no probable cause. I do not believe it was "racist." That's the go-to term these days for people on the far left when they don't like something.

I do not support marijuana decriminalization or legalization. One of the few things I actually agree with Chris Christie on. We should be discouraging the use of all recreational drugs.

I don't care about the rich leaving, but I do care about not penalizing people for success. The "rich" should pay the highest tax rates under our progressive system, but not to the point where we're trying to tax them more and more out of spite and jealousy for what they've earned.

Guilty as charged on not living or working in New York City. I have no desire to do either ever again for the rest of my life. I interned there for a very short period of time (four months). The job was fine but even for only four months the commuting was miserable.
 
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shu09, just curious what is your reasoning why you are not in favor of legalization of marijuana? What about medical marijuana or the expansion of it in this state?
 
Par for the course. Eugene playing the part of an envious, spiteful jackass. As if producing radio programs no one listens to is an accomplishment!

Then this outerborough slob is going to tell others where they have lived and worked. If there wasnt so much anti-Trump pushback, a unanimous, unequivocal disaster like DeBlasio would be ripe to be knocked off by a relative unknown.


I doubt either of you have actually followed Deblasio closely since he was elected. Yes, his attempts at nat'l prominence have fallen flat, he's not the most charismatic and his feuds with the media are dumb (his feud with that fake Cuomo is not). But I choose to look at his accomplishments as being way more important:

- crime continues to drop
- the city economy is still way up
- he ran on & governs most strongly on fixing income equality, and he has gotten a good amount accomplished there, with more coming next term...rents have been frozen & affordable housing is being built more rapidly and in direct response to Bloomberg's flippant approach.
- school test scores have gone up
- the racist stop & frisk policy was stopped
- he got universal pre-k through for all city residents
- marijuana decriminalized a bit

I'm also loving his new plan (along with Bernie) to fund the MTA improvements with a tax on millionaires. Hope that actually happens. And spare me the "omg the rich are gonna leave" argument before you even type it. That's garbage.

Sorry he doesn't cater to your suburban, center-right (or worse) interests. His base are the lower middle class, minorities and poor of the city, and he governs to attempt to better life for them moreso than Bloomberg, who was more concerned with making Manhattan a wistful playground for his rich friends.

I'd be curious if either of you live or work in the city. Somehow I doubt it.

I interned with Malliotakis at WKTU & we did many events together bc we both lived on SI. She was a clueless girl with no direction who fell into politics bc of her family after she graduated bc she had no idea what she wanted to do with her life (obviously not radio...at least she was smart there haha). She was, and still is, a spoiled daddy's girl who had everything handed to her. She has no instinct for governing, or a hunger to effect change. This (local gov't, not running for mayor) is just something for her to do bc she needed a job. She's going to get slaughtered on Tuesday and rightfully so. A 37 year old Trump voter with no life experience or accomplishments in government has no business running the biggest city in the world, a job more important than most governor positions. But I guess kinda sorta kudos to her for publicly taking the hit for the local Republican party though when Massey dropped out. She was willing to get embarrassed in this election so she can get something more kushy on SI after her term-limited Assembly job is up. Smart move there.
 
shu09, just curious what is your reasoning why you are not in favor of legalization of marijuana? What about medical marijuana or the expansion of it in this state?

There is just no reason to do it. It can put others in danger, especially on the roads.

As far as medical, I'm not opposed to it as long as the doctor demonstrates a clear need for the patient to have it.

I am a proponent of clean, drug-free living. We should be discouraging all recreational drugs every step of the way, not increasing access to them.
 
There is just no reason to do it. It can put others in danger, especially on the roads.

I am a proponent of clean, drug-free living. We should be discouraging all recreational drugs every step of the way, not increasing access to them.

I take it you would like alcohol made illegal again as well?

As far as what you're a proponent of, so am I. Never touched a drug or drink in my life. But thats for me. I could care less what other people want to do to get high. Sure, it should be illegal to drive on a substance, just like it is now. Or be publically intoxicated, just like it is now. But if people want to smoke crack in the privacy of their own home or apt, that's their business. Of course we can discourage use of any substance, but we shouldn't be incarcerating people for it. Full legalization has been working pretty well in Portugal for example. What you're saying sounds like the biggest big gov't can get imo.

Also, look around you at the way the modern world is going. Marijuana is going to be legal pretty much everywhere in the next 20 years, and certainly legal in all non-backwards states in the next 10. It's a harmless drug. You might as well get on the right side of the issue, b/c it's happening whether you like it or not.
 
Full legalization has been working pretty well in Portugal for example.

I haven't looked in a while but remember reading the use of marijuana increased slightly in Portugal but the use of opioids decreased significantly.
I don't know if there was anything else they did to reduce opioid usage, but that is definitely a trade I would take.

I'm honestly somewhere in the middle on the issue and don't feel passionately about one side over the other.
I am not pro drug use, but I am also not pro locking someone up with a criminal record because of drug use.
 
I take it you would like alcohol made illegal again as well?

As far as what you're a proponent of, so am I. Never touched a drug or drink in my life. But thats for me. I could care less what other people want to do to get high. Sure, it should be illegal to drive on a substance, just like it is now. Or be publically intoxicated, just like it is now. But if people want to smoke crack in the privacy of their own home or apt, that's their business. Of course we can discourage use of any substance, but we shouldn't be incarcerating people for it. Full legalization has been working pretty well in Portugal for example. What you're saying sounds like the biggest big gov't can get imo.

Also, look around you at the way the modern world is going. Marijuana is going to be legal pretty much everywhere in the next 20 years, and certainly legal in all non-backwards states in the next 10. It's a harmless drug. You might as well get on the right side of the issue, b/c it's happening whether you like it or not.

I'm with you, never have done drugs or had a drink in my life either. As far as alcohol being illegal, I think that's not feasible in this day and age but to be honest, I wouldn't be opposed to prohibition again.
 
Par for the course. Eugene playing the part of an envious, spiteful jackass. As if producing radio programs no one listens to is an accomplishment!

Then this outerborough slob is going to tell others where they have lived and worked. If there wasnt so much anti-Trump pushback, a unanimous, unequivocal disaster like DeBlasio would be ripe to be knocked off by a relative unknown.

Jimmy Cryan It's Ok to state your opinion, but let's keep the personal attacks out of it. Also if you are referring to another poster use his/her sign on name only.

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Great points. Here are mine.

Not only am I a native New Yorker, but I now work near the Garden with local government agencies and there are many, many, many.

Homeless, rude people, angry trans, divas, and pot smokers are everywhere - they hate this conservative but they deserve each other and thank God I am not one of them. Streets are disgusting, but I take time once in a while to know some of the same homeless I see. My conclusion is they choose to be thst way. There is a young African American thst I say hi to every morning but never gave him money except one time. I gave him some cash and he goes and buys cigarettes. Are you kidding me??

Pot should be illegal. Period. It makes us weaker as a country and recovery costs money and costs the taxpayer. Why should the general public foot costs for your damn addictions?

Solo says every country legalizing. Who cares?? Since when do we as Americans follow anyone. We are leaders.


Didn’t the opium wars between China and British Empire have to do with this concern among others?
 
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Homeless, rude people, angry trans, divas, and pot smokers are everywhere - they hate this conservative but they deserve each other and thank God I am not one of them. Streets are disgusting, but I take time once in a while to know some of the same homeless I see. My conclusion is they choose to be thst way.
If you're doing a character, well done. If not, wow.
 
Great points. Here are mine.

Not only am I a native New Yorker, but I now work near the Garden with local government agencies and there are many, many, many.

Homeless, rude people, angry trans, divas, and pot smokers are everywhere - they hate this conservative but they deserve each other and thank God I am not one of them. Streets are disgusting, but I take time once in a while to know some of the same homeless I see. My conclusion is they choose to be thst way. There is a young African American thst I say hi to every morning but never gave him money except one time. I gave him some cash and he goes and buys cigarettes. Are you kidding me??

Pot should be illegal. Period. It makes us weaker as a country and recovery costs money and costs the taxpayer. Why should the general public foot costs for your damn addictions?

Solo says every country legalizing. Who cares?? Since when do we as Americans follow anyone. We are leaders.


Didn’t the opium wars between China and British Empire have to do with this concern among others?

I don’t smoke marijuana or do any other drug but I do drink. I have never seen anyone high on marijuana commit a murder. But I have seen people drunk commit it. I know many professionals with advanced degrees who smoke it. They do not do any other drug but pot. So the gateway argument to other drugs has been debunked. I do not see it being any more dangerous than alcohol and maybe it is even less dangerous.

I have been waiting for studies to show that once you legalize marijuana, opiate use will drop. There is some evidence of this in Colorado but too early to tell. Moreover, when you make something illegal that has high demand, all you do is to make organize crime stronger and wealthy. The Mexican cartels that are brutal have so much money due to marijuana being illegal.

It is time to legalize it. Get the organized crime out of it. Control quality so it isn’t not adulterated and Tax it to make money.
 
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Amazing how we go from a shout out for an alum to the pointless debate about legalizing mary jane.
 
Funny story about hooch.

1980, my buddy is a newly commissioned LT from ROTC. He gets an Germany assignment. I tell him he can make few bucks by buying a Corvette and having Uncle Sugar pay to ship it over there. All legal. He can then sell to a German who is more than happy to bypass the emissions bullshit.

While he is still driving the car stateside he gets pulled over on his way to a Halloween party. He is dressed as.......you guess it.... a hippie! Cop asks what is in the plastic baggie and he responds, "oregano" and goes onto explain his costume. Cop doesn't buy it and searches the car. Finds some MJ and he gets busted.

Army finds out and they pull the Germany assignment. Dude gets shipped out to Ft. Riley. Gets his master's there. Leaves the Army and gets. A PhD in Neuro Physics from Harvard. He's a prof in boston now.

Can't make this shit up.
 
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What a story.

Vote Nicole.

No legal pot. Not sure if you remember when a campaign was run. “Why do you think they call it dope?”
 
Same reason they call it Demon Alcohol.

I could give a rat if they legalize it or not.

Due to the issue with smoke I think it will be a difficult thing to make it a mainstream social activity. If it does get legalized I would prefer that it be prohibited in all the places that cigarette smoking is currently prohibited.
 
I really have no issue as well with legalizing marijuana. The only thing you really need to have in place IMO, are legal limits and method of detection like alcohol. If someone is under the influence what is and what determines the legal limit?
 
I really have no issue as well with legalizing marijuana. The only thing you really need to have in place IMO, are legal limits and method of detection like alcohol. If someone is under the influence what is and what determines the legal limit?

I would assume that NJ would follow the Colorado model. There are legal dispensaries which sell in a professional elegant manner. However, you are not allowed to consume marijuana in public. Although with marijuana oil, people are puffing on a vape and you can't tell if it is marijuana or just a regular vape even here.

There would have to be a new law that would say that driver's under the suspicion will be subject to a blood test. If you are operating a motor vehicle while under the influence, you will have an active metabolite in your blood that lasts 6 hours from smoking. This is probably the most difficult issue with legalization.
 
There would have to be a new law that would say that driver's under the suspicion will be subject to a blood test. If you are operating a motor vehicle while under the influence, you will have an active metabolite in your blood that lasts 6 hours from smoking. This is probably the most difficult issue with legalization.
I'm really surprised that there doesn't seem to be any work being done on a pot "breathalyzer". I think a lot more would be on board if there was a way to determine if Spicoli's THC blood level was over the legal limit when he crosses over the median and hits you head on.
 
I really have no issue as well with legalizing marijuana. The only thing you really need to have in place IMO, are legal limits and method of detection like alcohol. If someone is under the influence what is and what determines the legal limit?
This is where I stand. 100% all in for medical marijuana. I don't care if someone uses marijuana for recreational purposes but before it's legalized there has to be a reliable, easy to administer test in case they are seen driving erratically etc. I laugh when people say marijuana does not effect their driving. That is what folks used to say about alcohol. Both can effect your reflexes and ability to operate an automobile. Until a reasonable/reliable test is available legalizing it is a non-starter for me.

Was in the airport a few months ago and struck up a conversation with a guy who turned out to be a Colorado state trooper. He said they are having problems but because there is no reliable test no statistics are being reported. Said its very hard and there seems to be a penchant from politicians for not reporting anything that might seem negative with their pot laws. Said it puts law enforcement in a difficult position.

On New York City - I have a lot of clients there and spent all last week in Manhattan. The streets are more populated with vagrants again. People smoke pot openly in midtown as they walk around. Happened four times last week during the day. Also saw a homeless guy go after a pedestrian and thankfully a cop was right there and stopped it. I did not feel unsafe and have been going into and working in the city for years but anyone who says it's not changing is not paying attention. Deblasio will get elected because no one good is running against him. He is a whiny politician that has not helped NYC in my opinion.
 
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On New York City - I have a lot of clients there and spent all last week in Manhattan. The streets are more populated with vagrants again. People smoke pot openly in midtown as they walk around. Happened four times last week during the day. Also saw a homeless guy go after a pedestrian and thankfully a cop was right there and stopped it. I did not feel unsafe and have been going into and working in the city for years but anyone who says it's not changing is not paying attention. Deblasio will get elected because no one good is running against him. He is a whiny politician that has not helped NYC in my opinion.
My wife and daughters walked with a team in the Avon 39 mile breast cancer 2-day walk a couple of weeks ago (Around Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens). They said the homeless were everywhere and it got a little scary sometimes. (At one point a homeless guy yelled out at them "When I think of pink; I think of fa**ots and I hate fa**ots"). These were not a bunch of sheltered suburban woman that were on her team (half of them lived in NYC).
 
This is where I stand. 100% all in for medical marijuana. I don't care if someone uses marijuana for recreational purposes but before it's legalized there has to be a reliable, easy to administer test in case they are seen driving erratically etc. I laugh when people say marijuana does not effect their driving. That is what folks used to say about alcohol. Both can effect your reflexes and ability to operate an automobile. Until a reasonable/reliable test is available legalizing it is a non-starter for me.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think legalization in states has materially change usage rates? It would still be against the law to drive high the same way that it is today and the testing would be the same if not better as time goes on. I don't think the threat really changes. American Journal of Public Health also showed that there was not a significant difference between fatal crashes in states that legalized marijuana vs states that did not. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2017.303848

Not arguing one way or the other. I see this issue as an inevitable change though so the only real meaningful impact to me is how to treat it with my children when they get old enough to talk about it. I think it will be legal by the time my oldest is in high school (currently in kindergarten)
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think legalization in states has materially change usage rates? It would still be against the law to drive high the same way that it is today and the testing would be the same if not better as time goes on. I don't think the threat really changes. American Journal of Public Health also showed that there was not a significant difference between fatal crashes in states that legalized marijuana vs states that did not. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2017.303848

Not arguing one way or the other. I see this issue as an inevitable change though so the only real meaningful impact to me is how to treat it with my children when they get old enough to talk about it. I think it will be legal by the time my oldest is in high school (currently in kindergarten)
Where did I say the usage has changed? And if reliable statistics are not being kept statistics don't matter. Common sense does though.

My point is there is no reliable test to check to see if someone is under the influence of marijuana. Before any state can reasonably legalize pot it seems to me that responsible people would want a test available that can be administered easily and reasonably similar to the tests they have available for DUI with alcohol. It is illegal to drink and drive and it should be and tests are available in both the field and through blood tests to reliably test for UI with alcohol. Unless I don't know about them, those tests are not currently available for marijuana so how do you enforce the law that would legalize it? Once the tests are readily available I'm OK with legalization.
 
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Where did I say the usage has changed?

I'm not saying you did. I don't disagree with you. I would love a real sobriety test available, however I do think it is unlikely we see that happen before marijuana is legalized in NJ. So as a practice measure, I am just trying to think about what you are trying to accomplish and what the actual impact would be.

Would more people be driving high than are currently driving high? I think that would be the major concern from your premise, and I was trying to discuss that answer.
 
I'm not saying you did. I don't disagree with you. I would love a real sobriety test available, however I do think it is unlikely we see that happen before marijuana is legalized in NJ. So as a practice measure, I am just trying to think about what you are trying to accomplish and what the actual impact would be.

Would more people be driving high than are currently driving high? I think that would be the major concern from your premise, and I was trying to discuss that answer.
Why on earth wouldn't you wait until you had the ability to have a legal limit and a test before legalizing? This is just only about operating a car. We have very complex and heavy equipment that would be a major liability and danger to other employees.
 
Why on earth wouldn't you wait until you had the ability to have a legal limit and a test before legalizing? This is just only about operating a car. We have very complex and heavy equipment that would be a major liability and danger to other employees.

You realize I am not the one who decides, right? If it comes up for a vote, I would likely vote no but I expect it will be legalized in NJ in the very near future.

Since I expect it will be legalized in NJ before they have a field sobriety test available and was attempting to discuss how significant the problem of lacking a sobriety test would be.
 
You realize I am not the one who decides, right? If it comes up for a vote, I would likely vote no but I expect it will be legalized in NJ in the very near future.

Since I expect it will be legalized in NJ before they have a field sobriety test available and was attempting to discuss how significant the problem of lacking a sobriety test would be.
Thankfully, you don't get to decide… LOL. New Jersey is very different from Colorado and I would hope our legislators are thoughtful enough to consider that we need to have these things in place before legalizing it.
 
Where did I say the usage has changed? And if reliable statistics are not being kept statistics don't matter. Common sense does though.

My point is there is no reliable test to check to see if someone is under the influence of marijuana. Before any state can reasonably legalize pot it seems to me that responsible people would want a test available that can be administered easily and reasonably similar to the tests they have available for DUI with alcohol. It is illegal to drink and drive and it should be and tests are available in both the field and through blood tests to reliably test for UI with alcohol. Unless I don't know about them, those tests are not currently available for marijuana so how do you enforce the law that would legalize it? Once the tests are readily available I'm OK with legalization.

Like I said in a previous post, a blood test that tests not just for THC but its active metabolite shows that the person is under the influence of THC. So, blood test with observations of the officer which will be documented on body cam cameras will be the evidence to show if someone was operating under the influence of marijuana
 
New Jersey is very different from Colorado and I would hope our legislators are thoughtful enough to consider that we need to have these things in place before legalizing it.

I'm sure NJ is very different than Colorado. I've never been there. Like it or not, there is a trend and public support for legalization. God forbid I discuss what might happen post legalization in NJ. I bet you get triggered on roads with a merge sign.
 
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I'm sure NJ is very different than Colorado. I've never been there. Like it or not, there is a trend and public support for legalization. God forbid I discuss what might happen post legalization in NJ. I bet you get triggered on roads with a merge sign.
Like you get triggered when you tdrive by Trump national? :)
 
Here is the test that Colorado uses. They actually have a threshold level of active metabolites in one's blood for DUI.

Q: Is there a legal limit for marijuana impairment while operating a vehicle?



A: Colorado law specifies that drivers with five nanograms of active tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in their whole blood can be prosecuted for driving under the influence (DUI). However, no matter the level of THC, law enforcement officers base arrests on observed impairment
 
Here is the test that Colorado uses. They actually have a threshold level of active metabolites in one's blood for DUI.

Q: Is there a legal limit for marijuana impairment while operating a vehicle?



A: Colorado law specifies that drivers with five nanograms of active tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in their whole blood can be prosecuted for driving under the influence (DUI). However, no matter the level of THC, law enforcement officers base arrests on observed impairment
That is a good start but again no test in the field like a breathalizer. I'd still like to have that in place to help law enforcement and to help prevent dui.
 
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I'm not saying you did. I don't disagree with you. I would love a real sobriety test available, however I do think it is unlikely we see that happen before marijuana is legalized in NJ. So as a practice measure, I am just trying to think about what you are trying to accomplish and what the actual impact would be.

Would more people be driving high than are currently driving high? I think that would be the major concern from your premise, and I was trying to discuss that answer.
I'm trying to accomplish real law enforcement and deterrent measures to dui similar to which are already in place for alcohol.
 
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