OPRAH FOR PRESIDENT ?????

[SnakeTom]

Oprah should not be considered for President. We already have a Celebrity President with no governmental experience, why would we want another?

Quite honestly I do not see anyone on the Dem side who is both electable and has shown any leadership ability. One of the Dem problems is that most of the bandied about names will be too old by 2020. As a party they need younger leadership to capture the imagination of the voters.. Right now if I had a choice on the next President it would be John Kasich who seems to be the only pol with a common sense approach. Of course that also means that he's not electable.

Also for what it's worth I do not think that Trump will be the Republican candidate in 2020.

Tom K

 

[Hall-line-forever]

Dems are finished. Great Society, New Deal are failures. LBJ war on poverty. What a joke. Everybody boxed in and labeled. F them. Hope they get destroyed in November.

 

[HALL85]

Oprah should not be considered for President. We already have a Celebrity President with no governmental experience, why would we want another?

Quite honestly I do not see anyone on the Dem side who is both electable and has shown any leadership ability. One of the Dem problems is that most of the bandied about names will be too old by 2020. As a party they need younger leadership to capture the imagination of the voters.. Right now if I had a choice on the next President it would be John Kasich who seems to be the only pol with a common sense approach. Of course that also means that he's not electable.

Also for what it's worth I do not think that Trump will be the Republican candidate in 2020.

Tom K

Tim Ryan on the Dem side...Nikki Haley for Reps. Trump will not run for a second term. Oprah??? LOL

 

[SPK145]

Tom,

I agree, we need a president that is a leader, not a demagogue. Of course as a human being, he/she will have an ideological lean, but the president does not/should not make law/determine which laws get enforced and how; the job is to faithfully execute the laws. The president should be the CEO, bringing all parties to the table, and lead/negotiate on those issues that the federal government has the power to do as enumerated in the Constitution. Alas, a person like that could never get through the respective primaries.

Trump isn't that person, Obama wasn't that person. George Bush was actually like that and so was the second term of Bill Clinton.

 

[SnakeTom]

Of course anyone elected President will have a political lean, but that is not as important as having leadership skills, being able to follow the law and being able to work with representatives of both parties & make compromises when same will benefit our nation.

And yes I do believe that the primary process is broken since so few vote in it & thus the nominations are controlled by the extremes in both parties.

Tom K

 

[Pirata]

Here is your leader. Very presidential.

She knew.

 

[donnie_baseball]

I wonder if she's seen 'ol Harv in his bathrobe.

 

[SPK145]

I wonder if she's seen 'ol Harv in his bathrobe.

Or watched him take a shower.

 

[cernjSHU]

This is what I call the Kardashian effect. As long as you are a celebrity and rich that’s all that matters to have any job including President of the United States. It preposterous that Anyone could suggest Oprah for President. It’s just as presposterous as having Trump as President. And we see what happened. Democratic leaders must shoot this down immediately to avoid another unqualified person from being President.

 

[SPK145]

This is what I call the Kardashian effect. As long as you are a celebrity and rich that’s all that matters to have any job including President of the United States. It preposterous that Anyone could suggest Oprah for President. It’s just as presposterous as having Trump as President. And we see what happened. Democratic leaders must shoot this down immediately to avoid another unqualified person from being President.

Add The Rock to this as well.

 

[Merge]

Oprah should not be considered for President. We already have a Celebrity President with no governmental experience, why would we want another?

I don't think she will run. This may be more about getting her more involved in the political process (and back in the news cycle)
Dems are lacking someone to get excited about for 2020 so someone as popular as Oprah at least has people talking.
I do think someone will start to emerge as the favorite and Oprah will probably be involved in shaping the dem platform.

As of today, I'd think the list looks like this for odds to be the 2020 nominee.

1. Bernie
2. Harris
3. Gillibrand
4. Warren
5. Booker

 

[Section112]

On the Dem side the folks I like will never get elected - Jim Webb and believe it or not I like Tulsi Gabbard (even though her twitter did not do too well in Hawaii this weekend). Gillibrand, Warren and Booker would be nightmares - all talk nothing behind them. Bernie is Bernie.

 

[CaptBob]

They're going to have all the lunatics crawling out of the woodwork to run and it will resemble the fiasco that the Republicans had to sort through. I still cannot believe that out of the pool of qualified candidates those two idiots received their party nominations. The Dems have nobody but themselves to blame.

 

[knowknow456]

The lesson the Democratic Party learned is not that celebrity candidates are bad. After all, Donald Trump did get elected. The lesson is you need to nominate the right celebrity. Whether Oprah is the "right celebrity" is one question. Whether any celebrity, however well meaning, can effectively govern as President is still an open question.

 

[HALL85]

I don't think she will run. This may be more about getting her more involved in the political process (and back in the news cycle)
Dems are lacking someone to get excited about for 2020 so someone as popular as Oprah at least has people talking.
I do think someone will start to emerge as the favorite and Oprah will probably be involved in shaping the dem platform.

As of today, I'd think the list looks like this for odds to be the 2020 nominee.

1. Bernie
2. Harris
3. Gillibrand
4. Warren
5. Booker

The one thing Oprah should help with is fundraising. Dems are hurting badly and Perez is killing them. That's a poor list you have there. Need to have a candidate with new blood that can resonate with working Americans....Tim Ryan and Gabbard best positioned for that. I did like Webb, but that ship may have sailed.

 

[Merge]

The one thing Oprah should help with is fundraising. Dems are hurting badly and Perez is killing them. That's a poor list you have there. Need to have a candidate with new blood that can resonate with working Americans....Tim Ryan and Gabbard best positioned for that. I did like Webb, but that ship may have sailed.

Agree with all of that except for Harris
Kamala Harris is new blood for the party. Her and someone like Tim Ryan would be a fairly strong ticket in my opinion.

Not sure if Gabbard could get through a primary. People have already gone after her for being too anti-establishment and having anti-gay/anti-abortion stances when she was younger. I think that hurts her chances for the nomination.

 

[SnakeTom]

I don't think she will run. This may be more about getting her more involved in the political process (and back in the news cycle)
Dems are lacking someone to get excited about for 2020 so someone as popular as Oprah at least has people talking.
I do think someone will start to emerge as the favorite and Oprah will probably be involved in shaping the dem platform.

As of today, I'd think the list looks like this for odds to be the 2020 nominee.

1. Bernie
2. Harris
3. Gillibrand
4. Warren
5. Booker

Bernie like Biden is too old. Warren will also be nearing 70 in 2020. The Dem Party has to get younger blood involved, not the same old ...

Tom K

 

[HALL85]

Add The Rock to this as well.

Hold on a sec...The Rock is an Allentown guy

 

[Merge]

Bernie like Biden is too old. Warren will also be nearing 70 in 2020. The Dem Party has to get younger blood involved, not the same old ...

Tom K

I don’t disagree. Just where I see the party currently.

I’ve also seen some buzz around Kennedy. Not quite sure he’s there yet but I do think he would provide the energy that the dems are missing.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

If Bernie or Warren run and are in good health, they will win in a primary over the (mostly terrible) establishment names that are being floated. They have huge followings and have proven they can fund raise (Bernie more than Warren). Young people love them despite their age. Really just depends how much the party tries to interfere, which that traitor Howard Dean has already hinted they will by having 15 or more candidates run to muddy the waters

 

[shu09]

Warren is pretty much the establishment these days. She toes the party line, especially as the Democratic party has moved further left in recent years.

 

[HALL85]

Warren is the one candidate that Trump would run against because he knows he would win in a romp.

 

[Merge]

If Bernie or Warren run and are in good health, they will win in a primary over the (mostly terrible) establishment names that are being floated. They have huge followings and have proven they can fund raise (Bernie more than Warren).

Read an article recently lauding Warren's fundraising efforts. I believe she set a record for fundraising from a sitting senator which was pretty surprising.
Wouldn't mind seeing her run. I think she would do a much better job connecting to middle america than Hillary did.

 

[HALL85]

Read an article recently lauding Warren's fundraising efforts. I believe she set a record for fundraising from a sitting senator which was pretty surprising.
Wouldn't mind seeing her run. I think she would do a much better job connecting to middle america than Hillary did.

Hillary? Can you find a lower bar? lol

To each his own. I find Warren an extremely hard to listen. One thing is for sure. Whoever runs better have some kind of vision or story that resonates. The "Trump is unfit" play began their demise.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

Oprah should not be considered for President. We already have a Celebrity President with no governmental experience, why would we want another?

Quite honestly I do not see anyone on the Dem side who is both electable and has shown any leadership ability. One of the Dem problems is that most of the bandied about names will be too old by 2020. As a party they need younger leadership to capture the imagination of the voters...

This new poll would like a word with you ;-)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics/2020-trump-biden-sanders-winfrey/index.html

In a series of hypothetical 2020 one-on-one contests Trump trails Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by a 55% to 42% margin among registered voters. He lags further behind former Vice President Joe Biden by a wide 57% to 40% split, and trails television personality Oprah Winfrey by a 51% to 42% divide.
The potential broad margins for the Democratic 2020 matchups are shaped by winning over some core groups that cast ballots for Trump in 2016, including white women and whites with a college degree. Trump leads among whites without a degree, though it's cut to just one-third of his gaping 2016 margin.

A majority of Americans, 57%, say they have a favorable view of Sanders — essentially unchanged since he bowed out of the Democratic presidential primary in 2016. A similar 58% say they have a favorable view of Biden, up from the 51% favorable rating he had when he was last considering a run in October 2015.

Women voters are key to Democrats' potential success in 2020. The numbers show all three potential Democratic hopefuls winning white women by massive double-digit margins: Winfrey by 14 points, Sanders by 17 points and Biden by 23 points. Trump defeated Clinton by 9 points with this group in the 2016 presidential election,

according to CNN exit polls. Among all women, those margins grow to a whopping 29 points for Winfrey, 30 points for Sanders and 36 points for Biden.

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS January 14-18 among a random national sample of 918 registered voters reached on landlines or cellphones by a live interviewer. No interviewing was completed on January 16 due to weather conditions at call center locations. Results for all registered voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.8 percentage points.

 

[JimmyCryan]

This new poll would like a word with you ;-)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics/2020-trump-biden-sanders-winfrey/index.html

No one would accuse you of being knowledgeable about anything, but a sample size of 918 isn't going to give a very good idea of what voters are apt to do. Maybe, with all your free time, you could dig up a similar poll prior to the 2016 primaries?

 

[seton1996]

Read an article recently lauding Warren's fundraising efforts. I believe she set a record for fundraising from a sitting senator which was pretty surprising.
Wouldn't mind seeing her run. I think she would do a much better job connecting to middle america than Hillary did.

For me Warren is just Hillary Part 2, both in style, substance and probably results.

 

[shu09]

Polling right now means absolutely nothing. In a 2010 CNN/ORC poll, Mike Huckabee (LOL) had a 52-44 lead over Obama and Romney had a 50-45 lead.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/04/poll.2012.candidates/index.html

 

[HALL85]

For me Warren is just Hillary Part 2, both in style, substance and probably results.

My German Shepherd has a big rubber ball that he chews on incessantly. His teeth have punctured holes in it, so when he bites down on it all you hear is air escaping and shrieky whistles. After about two minutes, it drives you crazy. That is Elizabeth Warren.

 

[Merge]

For me Warren is just Hillary Part 2, both in style, substance and probably results.

The only similarity is that she is an older woman. Not even remotely close on either style or substance honestly.

 

[Merge]

Polling right now means absolutely nothing. In a 2010 CNN/ORC poll, Mike Huckabee (LOL) had a 52-44 lead over Obama and Romney had a 50-45 lead.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/04/poll.2012.candidates/index.html

I tend to agree. It is way too early to compare anyone to Trump for 2020.
If our economy stays on the same path, the "economic fairness" candidates like Bernie and Warren will have an extremely difficult time. If we enter another recession, their message will resonate fairly well.

Only thing to look for in these polls for now is trends, but otherwise fairly meaningless.

 

[Merge]

My German Shepherd has a big rubber ball that he chews on incessantly. His teeth have punctured holes in it, so when he bites down on it all you hear is air escaping and shrieky whistles. After about two minutes, it drives you crazy. That is Elizabeth Warren.

Honestly she would not be my pick if I were given the choice but her fundraising numbers did surprise me and she may be a stronger than I was giving her credit for.

 

[Merge]

No one would accuse you of being knowledgeable about anything, but a sample size of 918 isn't going to give a very good idea of what voters are apt to do. Maybe, with all your free time, you could dig up a similar poll prior to the 2016 primaries?

Nothing wrong with that sample size at all.

Probably should understand what you are talking about before insulting other posters here on the topic.

 

[HALL85]

Honestly she would not be my pick if I were given the choice but her fundraising numbers did surprise me and she may be a stronger than I was giving her credit for.

I haven't seen the numbers, but what are you comparing them to? The Dem fundraising numbers have been abysmal. Perez has really failed there.

 

[Merge]

I haven't seen the numbers, but what are you comparing them to? The Dem fundraising numbers have been abysmal. Perez has really failed there.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/elizabeth-warren-fundraising-democrats-240488

She raised more than any other senator 1st quarter of 2017 and was 2nd in the second quarter.. and has a pile of money available.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/02/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-democrats-319045

"Warren is sitting on more campaign cash — $12.8 million — than nearly any other incumbent senator ever has at this point in an election cycle, despite what's expected to be an easy reelection. But she also held 17 town hall events back home in Massachusetts last year."

I agree with you on Perez. I think the party is severely misguided right now and I am not a fan of him at all.

 

[HALL85]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/elizabeth-warren-fundraising-democrats-240488

She raised more than any other senator 1st quarter of 2017 and was 2nd in the second quarter.. and has a pile of money available.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/02/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-democrats-319045

"Warren is sitting on more campaign cash — $12.8 million — than nearly any other incumbent senator ever has at this point in an election cycle, despite what's expected to be an easy reelection. But she also held 17 town hall events back home in Massachusetts last year."

Thanks...I agree with you on Perez. I think the party is severely misguided right now and I am not a fan of him at all.

Obviously popular in MA and I'm sure that helps her fundraising efforts which looks like predominantly in-state. I just don't see her having national appeal.

 

[Merge]

Obviously popular in MA and I'm sure that helps her fundraising efforts which looks like predominantly in-state. I just don't see her having national appeal.

I don't disagree. Like I said, she wouldn't be my choice... but, should our economy start to slip, I think she could perform very well.

Assuming our economy is strong, she would have little to no chance.

 

[HALL85]

I don't disagree. Like I said, she wouldn't be my choice... but, should our economy start to slip, I think she could perform very well.

Assuming our economy is strong, she would have little to no chance.

There's gotta be better Dems out there.

 

[Merge]

There's gotta be better Dems out there.

I think there are.
If you search the internet for potential 2020 dems, they are not exciting lists for now.

I'm sticking with Bernie and Harris as front-runners depending on what is happening with the economy.
There are some people I would prefer they would add to strengthen their tickets a bit.

 

[knowknow456]

As we saw on the Republican side, when it comes to candidates there was plenty of volume but poor quality. It really isn't much different on the Democratic side.

I think the single most important thing the Democratic Party could do would be to have Nancy Pelosi step down as Minority Leader. Her name is like nails on a chalkboard to all Republicans and most independents. Whether that is fair is irrelevant. America rejected Hillary Clinton and Pelosi is seen as part of that generation and mind set. Until the Democratic Party moves on from Pelosi, they will struggle.