Refs

[General_Tso]

Didnt cost us the game, but I thought they were pretty bad. Seemed like a lot of on the job training was going on. They made 4 crucial calls that went against us.
1. The block on whitehead in the first half, when they overturned a charge on Jones that would have been his second foul.
2. The Block call in the second half where it was about 3 seconds late, and it was a charge.
3. Their big man traveled big time in the second half, but they called a jump ball. We received the ball, but if he called the travel we would have got the ball on the missed foul shot jump ball.
4. The "bump" late in the second half when the butler player fell.

 

[hbkmyr]

The officiating was not great, but is it ever? We caught some breaks too (i thought the dive ball where they called the Butler player out of bounds shouldve been a foul on us). Bad fouls tend to even out. Our problem is we miss free throws. For example, i think it was after the late block call, you knew they were going to call a foul in our favor. They did and we missed two free throws...a 4 point swing.

 

[Merge]

Dunham also walks in about 80% of his possessions.

Refs weren't great but not horrible. Just frustrating when the 50/50 calls go to the away team.

 

[TheBluePirate]

Merge, I think that's the working definition of "horrible" - when the 50/50 calls do NOT fall 50/50.

We've seen games where 50/50 does mean 50/50, and you shrug your shoulders. But when 50/50 feels like 10/90, that is what causes fans to become apoplectic. The key 50/50 calls went 0/100 for Butler and against us. Killed momentum every time.

Let's say it's only 4-6 calls in a game. Can't technically say "they cost us the game" - but in terms of momentum and energy, yes, these few calls really significantly impact the game (and the team on the short end).

 

[Section112]

Roosevelt Jones pushes off on almost every play when he dribbles, extends his arm and never gets called for it. Happened about 10 times last night and no call. Refs were not good last night. I thought Butler was allowed to constantly bump us when we were driving or dribbling with no call and it was not called the same way when we were defending - any contact at all on our side was called. That was my biggest problem with the refs last night. They did miss a few calls on us. Angel got an offensive rebound and walked badly and put it in the basket and they missed that one. The charge call that Michael Stevens made (he was right next to the play) that was overrulled by the ref that was completely out of position way across the court was BS.

 

[Save Continental]

Didnt cost us the game, but I thought they were pretty bad. Seemed like a lot of on the job training was going on. They made 4 crucial calls that went against us.
1. The block on whitehead in the first half, when they overturned a charge on Jones that would have been his second foul.
2. The Block call in the second half where it was about 3 seconds late, and it was a charge.
3. Their big man traveled big time in the second half, but they called a jump ball. We received the ball, but if he called the travel we would have got the ball on the missed foul shot jump ball.
4. The "bump" late in the second half when the butler player fell.

I agree with most of these. #3 really ticked me off, because it came back to haunt us when we needed possession. The travel was plain as day.

#2, I think whitehead was inside the semi-circle, hence the block call.

 

[HallBall10]

Whitehead was fouled almost every single time he drove in the 2nd half.

Section 112 "I thought Butler was allowed to constantly bump us when we were driving or dribbling with no call and it was not called the same way when we were defending-any contact at all on our side was called."

Absolutely correct.

Jones did not and can not guard IW without fouling. From what I saw Butler played defense without committing many reach in fouls but IW got body bumped while driving in the lane at least 6 times in the 2nd half. Martin did the same to Desi at least twice.

 

[HallB]

Section 112 hit the nail on the head...we couldn't breath on Dunham last night without getting called for it. There were 2 or 3 outright phantom calls.