Seton Hall speaks (sort of): Willard not on hot seat

[bd98]

I said I wasn't going to comment on our pathetic men's basketball program anymore so I just present this without comment:


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Talked to Seton Hall Law Dean Patrick Hobbs. Hired Kevin Willard. Hobbs says he's not on the hot seat.

 

[mga pirate]

Maybe Hobbs is speaking of himself. He just wants everyone to know he is not on the hot seat for hiring Willard

 

[dcPirate]

If KW is not on the hot seat at a bare minimum I give up.

 

[2timealum]

His underwear should be ablaze at this point

 

[boatshu]

hopefully this is just lip service but if the buyout is as insurmountable as it seems, maybe thats the truth? SMH

 

[lwyrup]

I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

 

[SOSHU]

This just tells you how bad the buyout terms really are. How are we all going to feel when he is still around after next year?

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

Why is Hobbs, who's on his way out, and is either partially, or largely responsible for this mess, the one commenting? ?????

 

[garyshu71]

I can tell when he's lying. He moves his lips

 

[Save Continental]

Originally posted by bd98:
I said I wasn't going to comment on our pathetic men's basketball program anymore so I just present this without comment:





Talked to Seton Hall Law Dean Patrick Hobbs. Hired Kevin Willard. Hobbs says he's not on the hot seat.

I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why the law school dean goes on record as it relates to the head coach, yet not a word from the athletic director or president of the University. I don't get Seton Hall.

 

[jcalz88]

Originally posted by lwyrup:
I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

thats funny, if they win you will be in your seat no doubt.

 

[Pirate6711]

What do you expect Pat Hobbs to say in response to that question? "Oh yeah, he's definitely on the hot seat. Kevin Willard is going to get canned if he doesn't win the NCAA Tournament next season."

The media won't get much more than what Hobbs said from anybody on the administration and for good reason. What is said to the media and what is said behind closed doors is very different, and for good reason.

 

[Section112]

In the pros owners can make these statements but you will never see it in college. Of course he is going to say he is not on the hot seat and that is what he should say.

 

[Flnj86]

When Seton Hall wins games next year, the fans will fill the Rock.

 

[lwyrup]

Originally posted by jcalz88:

Originally posted by lwyrup:
I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

thats funny, if they win you will be in your seat no doubt.

No I won't. I don't live in the area

 

[lwyrup]

Originally posted by jcalz88:

Originally posted by lwyrup:
I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

thats funny, if they win you will be in your seat no doubt.

Also, I don't think that's necessarily true. I think season ticket ownership will take a significant dip next year (I may be completely off base here). I think a certain degree of people, who would otherwise be season ticket holders, will show up sporadically but our attendance for the season as a whole will be down.

 

[MDshu2005]

we've had two recent commits.... wouldn't it be weird to get two recruits for next year if KW was on his way out. fully expecting him to be the coach next year.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

why is this reporter talking to Hobbs & not Lyons?

 

[Rimas]

What makes anyone think he is going to win games next year? What hope do any of you have? What factual evidence? It's not the talent, it's not the injuries, its always been the coach. He doesn't make adjustments, the players do not listen to him, he does not prioritize discipline, he has 0 offensive sets, he has 0 inbounds plays, he has no fire or passion at all and that constant state of despondency spreads to his players. And when the going gets tough...he quits on the team. He cowers in his shell and leaves his players lost. His weak spirit adds to the eventual collapse that we face more than any opposing players. He has never shown that he can fix any of these faults in the last 5 years. Who really thinks it is going to change next year? I fully expect us once again to pound on the cupcakes we will play in the out of conference schedule next year and when the Big East rolls around the inevitable collapse occurs. It is abhorrent that we will be subjected to this for one more year, but if it's two I will not stand for it. Get someone else to pay him to make us look like fools.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Originally posted by jcalz88:

Originally posted by lwyrup:
I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

thats funny, if they win you will be in your seat no doubt.

That's an IF we know WON't happen.

 

[Woah Bundy]

Any chance we can get our coach's mind right for next year? Take some time away from Basketball or something, clear his head? It's finally getting warmer out perhaps Coach Hill could take him to a couple baseball games, maybe turn him into a passionate fan.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

Originally posted by Woah Bundy:
It's finally getting warmer out perhaps Coach Hill could take him to a couple baseball games, maybe turn him into a passionate fan.

Will they buy actual tickets, or simply watch from Freddie's car like he's want to do?

 

[Woah Bundy]

I think it's free but see your point. Any way he wants to express his support if fine with me.

 

[chickenbox]

Why would he be on the hot seat? He allegedly cleaned up the program and that's the only that matters, apparently. Just change his title to Head Janitor and be done with it.

 

[boatshu]

Originally posted by jcalz88:

Originally posted by lwyrup:
I'm sure he will feel differently when the team is playing in front of only a handful of fans next year.

thats funny, if they win you will be in your seat no doubt.

IF my aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle.

 

[SOSHU]

I think at 1.4 million a year, Willard should responsible for pulling his own act together.

 

[HALL85]

Diversion??

 

[sportsfantatic44]

might as well give Willard a lifetime contract at this point. Basketball doesn't matter at Seton Hall anymore. It's a shame but that's the truth now.

 

[cernjSHU]

As much as I hate it, I have never had much faith in the Administration to do what is necessary to get rid of Willard. For whatever reason, there are people who think WIllard is a guy that will get it done here at Seton Hall. They are obviously delusional. Or, is it that they do not want to admit that they made a monumental mistake (clue Hobbs) Or their good friend is WIllard who go the job for him (clue Lyons) Or really are not paying attention or care about the basketball program (clue Esteban)

There is no light at the end of the tunnel. We are in serious danger of being marginalized in the world of college basketball.

 

[Old_alum]

Quite simply it is the difference between administrators and managers.

Simplistically, an administrator has been given a list of "dos & don'ts" and it will be followed religiously.

Again simplistically, a manager looks beyond the cosmetic "dos & don'ts" to discern when it is the "exception" that should be in order, especially when factoring in the motivation and spirit of their subordinates and constituents. The manager should always look at the bigger picture of the enterprise as well as the focused environment of his or her responsibilities.

What they are doing does look appropriate "on paper", but there is a reason most managerial functions are fed with computerized data, not "run" by that data.

Multivariate linear regression --- the "on paper" guy's nirvana --- is more often than not an expressway to mediocrity, as the organization regresses to the mean.

Net-net: it seems we have a bunch of paper-pushers at the helm.








This post was edited on 3/27 12:04 PM by Old_alum

 

[HALL28]

Originally posted by cernjSHU:

There is no light at the end of the tunnel. We are in serious danger of being marginalized in the world of college basketball.

You hit the nail on the head. But I don't think we're in danger anymore, I think we're there.

 

[Piratz]

Amazing. We better hope the young players (a) want to deal with Willard and (b) play above Willard's X's and O's.

 

[sami]

I'll say it again, when the 8 people on this board that swear to boycott the program stop going to games next year, no one will care.

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

sami - agree this board is a small representative sample size of our overall fanbase and ticket holders (not just season, but walk-ups), but look at our crowds that started to develop after our strong start compared to what they have been in season's past. You don't think there will be a backlash in fan turnout next year despite the fact that the posters on this board are only making up a handful of our fanbase?

For the record, I personally don't have any interntions of boycotting the program. But I'm also not a season ticket holder and only get to the Rock once or twice a year, so I'm not really a factor.

 

[SOSHU]

My son and myself go to every single game. It takes us 90 minutes each way. We get to the game as the Rock opens one hour prior to tip off. This is a whole lot of time to devote to a team led by a coach who deep down does not want to be here.

 

[anon_4htvdezyfe7k9]

Originally posted by SOSHU:
My son and myself go to every single game. It takes us 90 minutes each way. We get to the game as the Rock opens one hour prior to tip off. This is a whole lot of time to devote to a team led by a coach who deep down does not want to be here.

Sounds like you both are also leaving work early every gameday. A committment in and of itself. I'm in Philly and would never be able to make 7:00 tips with the traffic that I would hit. Would probably have to leave before 4 for weeknight games. That said at one point during this season (before Feb. of course), the thought crossed my mind to invest in season tickets.

 

[HALL85]

Originally posted by sami:

I'll say it again, when the 8 people on this board that swear to boycott the program stop going to games next year, no one will care.

When SHU has been good or even shown an inkling that we've turned the corner (Villanova game in January), the place is full and rocking. When we suck or show no hope of improving (see Feb and March) the place is empty or has more of the opposing fans.

Angel and Isaiah are talented kids, but to expect them to overcome the vacant coaching makes me expect the latter. The posters on this board don't make much difference, but the fans that come to the games (or don't) are a lot more than 8. The small sample here do go to most if not all of the games so its safe to say this board has a good sense of what will transpire if Bambie is still clapping his way to double-digit defeats.

 

[Piratz]

I'd really like to know why they keep Willard in such high regard. Well, other than egos and related BS. It doesn't make any sense. He has been rewarded amazingly for his program cleanup. Nobody gets 5 years performing like this, let alone 6!!!

What are we going to do? Root against them? No. But the guy has shown such a thin skin here and I'm sure we'll see that again if he actually gets into NCAA contention in Year 6.

Best case scenario is the team is good enough to be relevant next year and there's a mutual, peaceful parting at the end of the season. Kevin can go to the greener pastures he desires after the 5 years of futility has worn him out here.

 

[lloyde dobler]

You know when I knew this guy just didn't have ``It' ??????

This is going to sound bizarre, but it was they brought in Kobayashi for the hot dog eating contest.

Willard didn't even have the sense of humor to go along with it, and instead did the lame thing of acting like he was eating and drinking at formal dinner. He came off as a complete dope.

That same night, Fox had the live cut ins to each school's practice, and he also tried to come off in a ``fun'' way in his interview, and it just didn't translate whatsoever..... meanwhile all of the other coaches (well, maybe not the Butler guy) came off well.

 

[shu09]

Interesting, lloyde, and a clue in hindsight. I've linked the video. You also see Bozzella having fun and going along with it. Telling.
This post was edited on 3/27 10:35 PM by shu09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S7Ss7QALX4