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Setonian Has Turned Into Leftist Echo Chamber

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The once proud Setonian has become unreadable.

Every week it's another story about hard left groups making demands for diversity or prayer rooms for aggrieved Muslim students or talk about gender... on and on.

On October 5 they reported the SO police was investigating a racist email sent to black students.

http://www.thesetonian.com/2017/10/05/bias-email-sent/

In today's edition they finally mentioned the incident again, but no reporting about whether the police have any new information and/or confirmation about who the email. It's been more than three months.

What do police say about it? Maybe the newspaper doesn't want us to know?

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/01/25/students-protest-racial-concerns-at-shu/

(Look at the Che Guevara wanna-be in the photo.)

It appears that students just don't like it that when you attend a Catholic univeristy and you are taught the classics. What would Fr. Cotter say?

“I don’t know how many times I have had to read Socrates and Plato and Thomas Aquinas here,” he said. “Meanwhile, this is reflected in faculty makeup – where there is a significant deficiency in faculty and administrators of color.”

These dumbbell liars couldn't have read Socrates because he never wrote anything.

If you really want to get a laugh and worry about the future of the school, read the nonsensical responses of administrators.

Keep it up SHU. First you give scholarship money to illegal aliens while thousands of alumni are paying for student loans. Now this. Just look at the massive problems Missouri created for itself by cravenly tolerating and encouraging nonsense.

If somebody claims racism they should be required to provide evidence. Real evidence. How are we going to take real racism seriously if anybody can merely say something is racist and everybody has to jump.
 
One of the activities, Hijabathon, serves as an opportunity for all women on campus to wear a hijab, a scarf covering your head, for a day to get a sense of what being a Muslim woman is like.

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/01/...tion-aims-to-educate-and-serve-shu-community/


Sounds so benign. I wonder if there can be a Crossathon where everybody wears a crucifix around campus. How would that fly with non-Christians?
 
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One of the activities, Hijabathon, serves as an opportunity for all women on campus to wear a hijab, a scarf covering your head, for a day to get a sense of what being a Muslim woman is like.

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/01/...tion-aims-to-educate-and-serve-shu-community/


Sounds so benign. I wonder if there can be a Crossathon where everybody wears a crucifix around campus. How would that fly with non-Christians?

Your complaints are much ado about nothing.
 
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I'm complaining that they cover exclusively leftist/Democrat/liberal stories... and they do it in an unquestining manner.

And they're reporting an unsubstantiated story as fact and do not follow-up.

You can choose to ignore it and pretend they're not doing it.

You might not believe it but I'm independent. Both parties are the same turd to me. I do not like biased one-sided reporting.
 
What do the following phrases have in common?

1. Terrorist Released by Obama Honored in Cuba
2. Victims of Communism
3. Communist Influence on Campus/Chinese Spy
4. Violent Crime Sharply Increases, Thank you Democrats
5. Communists in California
 
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I think you do have to give some consideration that this is a student newspaper.

I recall an interview of Judy Sheindlin a few years back and she made the comment that, "they are still not fully baked at that age". That stuck with me as I parented my daughter around that age.

Also, it is no secret that college campuses have a left/liberal leaning to begin with. It goes with the territory.

The good news is that most of them eventually grow up and establish their views for themselves based on life experiences.
 
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As somebody who was an editor for The Setonian for three years, I can tell you it's not difficult to get a story covered in the paper. There's not a lot that goes on there, but we had to put out a paper each week. Now that there's such an emphasis on online media, they are posting multiple times a week for a pretty quiet campus. If you want to see more conservative groups get coverage, then tell those conservative groups to do something. It'll get covered.

Oh, and alleged crimes on and around campus will always get covered, no matter how much certain people on this board believe reporting that is liberal. The original poster saying that The Setonian shouldn't cover an investigation by the SOPD that involves SHU students is just absurd.

When I was an editor, the editorial board was pretty split politically. There was never an instance where an editorial was pulled for being too conservative, but definitely multiple instances where editorials were pulled because they were considered too liberal. I try to keep up with The Setonian on regular basis and I truly think people who think they are too liberal are picking and choosing items that fit the narrative that they have constructed in their mind.
 
As somebody who was an editor for The Setonian for three years, I can tell you it's not difficult to get a story covered in the paper. There's not a lot that goes on there, but we had to put out a paper each week. Now that there's such an emphasis on online media, they are posting multiple times a week for a pretty quiet campus. If you want to see more conservative groups get coverage, then tell those conservative groups to do something. It'll get covered.

Oh, and alleged crimes on and around campus will always get covered, no matter how much certain people on this board believe reporting that is liberal. The original poster saying that The Setonian shouldn't cover an investigation by the SOPD that involves SHU students is just absurd.

When I was an editor, the editorial board was pretty split politically. There was never an instance where an editorial was pulled for being too conservative, but definitely multiple instances where editorials were pulled because they were considered too liberal. I try to keep up with The Setonian on regular basis and I truly think people who think they are too liberal are picking and choosing items that fit the narrative that they have constructed in their mind.
The Setonian covered the story about an alleged racist email. They said the SOPD was investigating. Four months later they mentioned the email in another story again but no other information. What was the result of the SOPD investigation they said was being conducted?

Dial the SOPD number or send an email asking for an update. Don't be a wise guy and throw a grenade and leave it there as if it was confirmed that it happened.

You're going to honesty say the only events that happen on campus are Democrat and leftist events. Conservatives don't want coverage and are not active? Don't be ridiculous.

Look at the two main stories they posted today:

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/shu-marches-for-womens-rights/

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/race-forum-receives-mixed-reviews/

It's not that most stories are liberal stories. The problem is that 100 percent are about hard core leftist causes.

What are they teaching these future journalists? What are these students learning? What kind of atmosphere is there on campus that results in these persistent themes and there's no room for both sides?

You cannot even go to the theater page without the same stories:

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/a-good-farmer-at-sopac-highlights-the-life-of-immigrants/

If that's what they want to be and what SHU supports, they are, of course, free to choose. But let not pretend. Let's at least be honest about what's going on.
 
What do the following phrases have in common?

1. Terrorist Released by Obama Honored in Cuba
2. Victims of Communism
3. Communist Influence on Campus/Chinese Spy
4. Violent Crime Sharply Increases, Thank you Democrats
5. Communists in California
Who exactly is forcing you to read any of those posts?

And I notice you don't challenge the facts because... those are the historical facts. Too many people want to ignore, re-write them and/or diminish the mass murder but I make it a point to remind people.
 
You linked an article covering an event about racism, which included many quotes from attendees that were critical of the event. So how is that being too liberal?

Again, you pick and choose so things fit your narrative. Let's see what you conveniently skipped over...

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/dove-volunteers-see-need-for-change-in-haiti/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/string-lights-are-banned-from-shu-residence-halls/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/preliminary-med-school-site-plan-approved/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/english-club-helps-shu-community-open-their-hearts/

So is a Catholic volunteer group at a Catholic university too liberal for you? Is it too liberal when a university that had three students die in a fire enforces fire safety rules? Putting the finishing touches on the medical school building?? LIBERALISM AT ITS WORST!!!

And the English Club story is a great example of if you're a group and you do something on campus, it'll get covered.
 
You linked an article covering an event about racism, which included many quotes from attendees that were critical of the event. So how is that being too liberal?

Again, you pick and choose so things fit your narrative. Let's see what you conveniently skipped over...

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/dove-volunteers-see-need-for-change-in-haiti/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/string-lights-are-banned-from-shu-residence-halls/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/preliminary-med-school-site-plan-approved/
http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/01/english-club-helps-shu-community-open-their-hearts/

So is a Catholic volunteer group at a Catholic university too liberal for you? Is it too liberal when a university that had three students die in a fire enforces fire safety rules? Putting the finishing touches on the medical school building?? LIBERALISM AT ITS WORST!!!

And the English Club story is a great example of if you're a group and you do something on campus, it'll get covered.

You know very well I'm talking about 100 percent one-sided coverage of political issues. At least be honest.

Not one of those articles you posted is about a conservative group and the political issues they support.

On a campus with 10,000 students you couldn't find a single article from this school year quoting a Trump and/or conservative supporter or conservative cause. Not one.

You're going to tell me there are not at least 2,000-3,000 Republicans on campus? Are they banned from gathering and promoting what they believe? Are they being intimidated?

Can you safely state on-campus that you do not support illegal immigration and you're against SHU giving scholarships to illegal immigrants while citizens are graduating with huge debt?

This should not be happening on a college campus. And journalists in training should not be part of this one-sided publication.

I remember attending events as a student and going to talks all the time with both the College Republicans and Young Democrats. I remember assisting when the NJ Democrat party held its convention at SHU. I didn't agree much with Jesse Jackson but I was glad to meet him, shake his hand and listen to his POV.

I was also very happy to twice hear William F. Buckley speak on campus and twice going to a taping of Firing Line at HBO studios on West 43rd.

I went on an internship for the summer and my SHU roommate looked like a young Rasputin and was an admitted Marxist. We had a great time, debated endlessly and double-dated often.

What's happening now is total and complete BS. There's something rotten in Newark, to paraphrase Hamlet. I suspect they approve of this atmosphere and have helped to create it.

This week- AGAIN- the Setonian is packed with articles about race and liberal causes. And not one of these articles contains a single quote from an opposing viewpoint.

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/08/students-call-senators-to-show-support-of-daca/

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/07/diversity-category-added-to-college-core/

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/...e-house-visit-serves-as-latest-trump-boycott/

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/08/united-greek-council-stands-with-protestors/

http://www.thesetonian.com/2018/02/08/application-required-to-demonstrate-on-campus/

What exactly are all these racist problems? An unsubstantiated racist email allegedly sent in September that they reported the SOPD was investigating. The Setonian never followed-up. A complete joke.

And there's anger because a professor was not re-hired.

If you read this newspaper you'd think SHU was run like the Democrat party ran the racist South in 1950s.
 
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