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Rutgers quad 3 home loss looks bad right now and might be bringing on metrics down all year.
Good thing they play in inflated big 10, there is a possibility even if they lose 75% of games, their NET might go up.
Really need this Missouri win to salvage this season to at least an NIT birth.
Good thing they play in inflated big 10, there is a possibility even if they lose 75% of games, their NET might go up.
Really need this Missouri win to salvage this season to at least an NIT birth.
Wusu, Dawes and Sanders super underperforming to expectations thus far.
Bediako and Coleman above expectations and everyone else is performing as expected.
Maybe a little disappointed in EHE defense which is horrendous and Tubek injury lingering…
What is going on with Tubek anyway, he didn’t play last game after getting some time the game before that?
Bediako and Coleman above expectations and everyone else is performing as expected.
Maybe a little disappointed in EHE defense which is horrendous and Tubek injury lingering…
What is going on with Tubek anyway, he didn’t play last game after getting some time the game before that?
Our NET is 111. How much do you think the RU loss is dragging our NET down?
NET ranking of our six wins:
Monmouth - 163
St. Peter's - 194
Albany - 200
Northeastern - 210
FDU - 298
Wagner - 319
NET ranking of our four losses:
Baylor - 5
Iowa - 69
Rutgers - 76
USC - 87
That's 6-0 in Q4 and 0-4 in Q1-3
Game logs are pretty readily available. You could actually figure it out if you cared enough.
Good points
For metrics, I was referring to not just NET but the only grace we could have catapulted our candidacy for the ncaa committee is that we had 0 quad 3-4 losses. That goes away with a home loss to Rutgers most likely unless they are better than I think they are. The non tourney Rutgers team last year was better so I don’t think they will improve much.
A neutral loss (in cali) to usc could be ok overall since their freshman will just get better.
That Q3 loss will become a Q2 loss as soon as RU moves into the top 75. Just as I expect the NETs for USC, Iowa and Missouri (88) to improve as the season goes on. Conference play will do that as teams face more equal competition on a regular basis.
Our problem, if it ever got to that point, would be the lack of any notable OOC wins and potentially a bunch of conference wins against mediocre or worse teams. Basically last year's resume.
These stats man, woof:
Dawes is 1/14 from 2 (.071) and 8/37 from 3 in the 4 losses (.216) with only 7 assists and 6 turnovers while averaging over 31 MPG. A total of 6 rebounds and bad defense consistently.
Addae-Wusu is actually much better than that, lol: 7/18 from 2 (.389) and 5/16 from 3 (.313) with 7 assists and 9 turnovers, also averaging over 31 MPG. At least he grabbed 20 rebounds with pretty good defense.
That's a lot of minutes for that. Just killed us. The USC and Rutgers games are the two that maybe could've gone a different way. I don't think it would've mattered against Iowa and Baylor, they simply carved us up. You can get more productive minutes than this from different combinations. But at least early on Sha has been reluctant to try that for some reason.
Dawes is 1/14 from 2 (.071) and 8/37 from 3 in the 4 losses (.216) with only 7 assists and 6 turnovers while averaging over 31 MPG. A total of 6 rebounds and bad defense consistently.
Addae-Wusu is actually much better than that, lol: 7/18 from 2 (.389) and 5/16 from 3 (.313) with 7 assists and 9 turnovers, also averaging over 31 MPG. At least he grabbed 20 rebounds with pretty good defense.
That's a lot of minutes for that. Just killed us. The USC and Rutgers games are the two that maybe could've gone a different way. I don't think it would've mattered against Iowa and Baylor, they simply carved us up. You can get more productive minutes than this from different combinations. But at least early on Sha has been reluctant to try that for some reason.
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Agree on 2nd point, it will be our main pain point, I was saying if we were in position to be good side of bubble and beat all the lesser teams like DePaul and gtown in Conf, we could say we didn’t lose to any bad teams quad 3s or 4s.
1st point not confident Rutgers will be top 75 NET this year. I see them losing a lot in big 10 and being a quad 3 loss at end of day.
FYI, they are No 75 today so that loss is now a Q2 for us. The Big 10 currently has four teams in the top 35, four teams between 63-75 and another three teams within the top 100. Even if RU lose eight to 10 league games -- and they will -- they will have opportunity to improve their metrics.
They will be a different team with Mawot Mag back. Losing him last year was the main reason they didn't make the NCAAs. I don't think they'll be NCAA Tournament good but I'd be surprised if they're not top 75.
As for us, none of it matters anyway.
We basically did this last year. The team went 8-0 against the bottom of the league, 2-8 against teams with winning records (Connecticut, at Providence) and then the real killer was 0-2 against the other 10-10 team, Villanova. And that was with a couple good wins in the non-conf (Memphis neutral, at Rutgers).
I don't think this year's team is good enough to even do what we did last year right now. Hope that changes. And last year our non-conf SOS was 90th. This year it's 248.
