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St. John’s must move on from Mike Anderson after another lost season

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By Zach Braziller

The decision should be simple for St. John’s: Make a coaching change when this dismal men’s basketball season is up or tell the fan base winning is not important. Relieve head coach Mike Anderson of his duties after four seasons or risk further alienating an already despondent group of fans that deserve much better.

Things have been going in the wrong direction for two seasons now, with one disappointing and dispiriting result after another. It’s time for new leadership for the school’s flagship athletic program.

The university can’t continue making excuses for this season, or even the underwhelming 2021-22 campaign, any longer. Not when an eighth-place finish is as good as this season will get. Not when the projected three best players — Posh Alexander, David Jones and Andre Curbelo — all have regressed. Not when issues on the court are spilling off of it, with two players from local powerhouse Long Island Lutheran, Curbelo and sophomore Rafael Pinzon, currently suspended for disciplinary reasons. Not when a glance across the Hudson River will show rival Seton Hall outperforming the Red Storm with a first-year coach and an inferior roster.

Not when Anderson has an incomprehensible 9-36 record in Quad 1 games, a 6-20 mark against ranked teams and has lost at least 11 Big East games in three of his four seasons here. Over the last two years, St. John’s is 5-21 in conference play against teams other than the bottom three of Georgetown, DePaul and Butler. The effort of Anderson’s team — not performance, but effort — has been lacking too frequently.

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St. John’s coach Mike Anderson and the Johnnies likely will miss the NCAA Tournament again this season.
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Yes, Anderson is owed a lot of money, believed to be close to $10 million on a contract that has four years remaining and pays him roughly $2.5 million per season. Unnecessarily extending Anderson after a fourth-place finish two years ago without an NCAA Tournament bid can’t preclude St. John’s from moving on. It feels like a sunk cost now. The university can go into the endowment if it must. It can go hat in hand to billionaire alum Mike Repole, who has been treated like a pariah since he bashed the program on WFAN four years ago.

Athletic director Mike Cragg, when asked if Anderson’s job was in jeopardy, told The Post the coach would be evaluated at the end of the season. President Brian Shanley has declined to speak with The Post this season, but did tell the student newspaper, The Torch, that he was “completely committed right now” to helping Anderson succeed. He also said, “we have to figure out how to win more games.”

There is nothing to suggest that will happen with the current coach. Anderson has gotten worse results with more talent the last two years. Last winter at least, St. John’s lost a number of close games. This season, St. John’s has eight losses by double figures. The Red Storm set a Carnesecca Arena/Alumni Hall record for allowing the most points in regulation, in a 96-83 loss to Marquette on Jan. 3. They yielded 104 points at Creighton, which played its reserves for the final minutes, on Jan. 25, the most points the program has allowed since the 2017 Big East Tournament. They produced their fewest points in a home league contest in a decade in a 57-49 loss to Villanova at the Garden on Jan. 20.

That is obviously not all Anderson’s fault. The issues go far deeper for a school that last won an NCAA Tournament game in 2000 and has among the worst facilities in the Big East. But Anderson is paid well to win games. St. John’s is far too often undisciplined and disjointed, leading to several possessions per game being thrown away at both ends of the floor. Any player can take any shot at any time. The staple of the defense has become to gamble. The press, a hallmark during Anderson’s first two years, rarely makes an impact and is utilized infrequently. There is no identity or structure.

Anderson hasn’t shown enough accountability the last two years, at times faulting players for the team’s shortcomings. After the Red Storm’s best player, Joel Soriano, put a recent loss to Villanova on himself, Anderson was critical of his team making “poor decisions,” saying their play was not up to par. The juxtaposition was jarring.

Look, Anderson is a nice man who has enjoyed a strong coaching career. But at the age of 63, he has lost his fastball. The last time one of his teams was nationally ranked was Arkansas in 2018. That was also the last time he took a team to the NCAA Tournament and won 20 games. This will be the fifth straight season he has missed the tournament, barring a miraculous Big East Tournament run. In the current climate, with the advent of the transfer portal, that’s an eternity for a high-major school. Coaches have turned around other programs in one season. Just look at what Sean Miller has done at Xavier this season and what Shaka Smart did at Marquette last season.

The St. John’s fan base has answered the call. The team has drawn well despite the disappointing results. It sold out Carnesecca Arena on Saturday for what became a loss to Creighton and has averaged 11,723 fans for its three league games at the Garden. The school has gone all out to drum up interest and fill seats.

If St. John’s had competed for the tournament this year and settled for the NIT, maybe there would be a case to keep Anderson. Perhaps there would be reason to keep him if players were progressing and positive momentum was building. That has clearly not been the case. His return can’t be spun and another poor season can’t be swept away, as the school tried to after 2021-22.

St. John’s has only one path forward. It needs to make a coaching change. If not, why should fans bother anymore?
 
Those in the know understand there is no love loss between Zach Brazillier, SJU and especially Mike Anderson. That said he does make many valid points.
 
Hard to believe but at one time not 'that' far in the past St John's was near the top of the all time leaders in victories in D1 basketball.

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Shows what bad hires and terrible leadership can do to a program.
 
Zach might as well be sitting in his parent’s basement writing this stuff. I like our coverage from him but really don’t think he is all that knowledgeable.

He might be right but if he is its the analogy of even the blind squirrel getting an acorn every once in awhile.
 
Zach might as well be sitting in his parent’s basement writing this stuff. I like our coverage from him but really don’t think he is all that knowledgeable.

He might be right but if he is its the analogy of even the blind squirrel getting an acorn every once in awhile.
With a $10 million buy out I do not think he is going anywhere .
 
Zach might as well be sitting in his parent’s basement writing this stuff. I like our coverage from him but really don’t think he is all that knowledgeable.

He might be right but if he is its the analogy of even the blind squirrel getting an acorn every once in awhile.
I disagree. I think Zach is about as tuned in on the NYC hoops scene as about any reporter. He is covering the Knicks now as well so his reporting on SJU has been less frequent of late.

Interesting to hear about RePole. You’d think in this day and age a school would cozy up to a guy like that.
 
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Zach might as well be sitting in his parent’s basement writing this stuff. I like our coverage from him but really don’t think he is all that knowledgeable.

He might be right but if he is its the analogy of even the blind squirrel getting an acorn every once in awhile.

He's little more than a fan who happens to have access to a NY Post byline, but he's right in this case. St. John's would be wise to fire Anderson. I hope they keep him.
 
Willard loved Braziller. Their back and forth was like a comedy routine. Very unusual for our former coach because he was not an openly warm person and Brazillier could get under your skin at times with his questioning.
 
He's little more than a fan who happens to have access to a NY Post byline, but he's right in this case. St. John's would be wise to fire Anderson. I hope they keep him.
I’m surprised to hear that. He seems pretty tuned into St Johns, particularly their recruiting.
 
I know him fairly well. Last time I spoke to him as he hasn't covered the Pirates this year as he has done in the past was at JP's wake in NY this past summer.

He does know the game well and not just from a local stance.
 
I can’t stand Zach, never did, he’s a hack writer nota reporter or a journalist. Poo-poos the buyout, points a few players that regresses, but makes no mention of Soriano’s improvement.

And they aren’t more talented than Seton Hall, that’s just a figment of hack writers like him building up players that had no business being built up.
 
That's an interesting take re who has the more talented roster. I believe Zack is correct, although not by a lot.

The Big East coaches did as well as they had SJU slightly ahead of the Pirates in their preseason predictions.

What do you posters think?
 
I can’t stand Zach, never did, he’s a hack writer nota reporter or a journalist. Poo-poos the buyout, points a few players that regresses, but makes no mention of Soriano’s improvement.

And they aren’t more talented than Seton Hall, that’s just a figment of hack writers like him building up players that had no business being built up.

It's also a tactic to feed the ego of their fans and get them riled up. He knows full well how their fans look down at Seton Hall, so it might lead a few more of them to back his opinion if they were on the fence.
 
I know we would be a different team with Soriano at center and Jones coming off our bench. I give them a slight edge overall.
 
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I agree with SPK that St John’s doesn’t necessarily have a more talented team.

Soriano isn’t necessarily better than Samuel.

Richmond is way better than Posh.

David Jones is a nice player but id rather have our 2 wings with Ndefo and Dre Davis then him alone.

Who else is that good for St John’s? AJ Storr who has a good shot but not much else right now?

I do like Zach but his bitterness with the current coaching regime at St John’s comes through a bit too strong in some of his articles.

Zach is right that St John’s needs a change, but it isn’t necessarily because MA isn’t getting the most of his talent but more on how his puts a team together that fits.

For example Soriano is good but not good with a fast pace offense/defense etc. the Curbello/Posh experiment has failed as they are too small together and Posh disappears when Curbello is in the game
 
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The contract extension was baffling and now they’re stuck with a $10 million buyout. I don’t see him going anywhere but who knows. And hey, maybe he’ll pull a Ewing and with the Big East Tournament.
 
I disagree. I think Zach is about as tuned in on the NYC hoops scene as about any reporter. He is covering the Knicks now as well so his reporting on SJU has been less frequent of late.

Interesting to hear about RePole. You’d think in this day and age a school would cozy up to a guy like that.
Covering the Knicks doesn’t mean he is really tuned into CBB in the area. Maybe he was at one time. His piece might as well have been written by Francessa. A modicum of knowledge does not make someone tuned in.
 
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He needs to go and good for the fan base for Zach to write it out like this and add pressure on the administration to find a way out

And I'd take Georgetown over St. John's in a heartbeat just more resources
 
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If you look back at all of the hires they have made in the past 30 years you get the feeling that the administration has a short fuse for indiscretions as they terminated Jarvis and Fraschilla; the only two coaches since Louie that had winning records besides Lavin. Some very bad hires (Mahoney, Mullin, etc.) and some that were just underwhelming that had good resumes (Roberts, Anderson). It took them six years to fire Roberts who had a losing record every year.

I don't see them paying a $10 M buyout or even making Pitino an offer if they did. Are they really a place where a great coach (even an up and comer) is going to want to go given their history? We make fun of think small, Seton Hall, but.....We look very fortunate with PJ, Willard and even Orr during the same time.
 
His tenure hasn’t been all that different than Willard’s was in the first 3 years. We had our share of off the court issues and disappointment. The difference being Anderson came with a lot more accomplishments than Willard.

Maybe he should go. Maybe he deserves more time. The buyout likely means he’s staying. If Willard can pull it off so can this guy. Time will tell. For now 10 million reasons why he’s staying.
 
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Hope they keep Anderson around for as long as possible lol. *If* St. John’s ever turns it around their fans will be absolutely unbearable. Let them keep wallowing in past glory.
 
Hope they keep Anderson around for as long as possible lol. *If* St. John’s ever turns it around their fans will be absolutely unbearable. Let them keep wallowing in past glory.
History shows, maybe this is okay for SJU. A coach that has a team that can compete and play hard, no embarrassing discipline problems (and if there are, the coach deals with it...Curbelo). Hope to be middle of the pack each year and maybe surprise and get in the dance. I don't see the administration that has aspirations more than that. Maybe the NYC press does, but they are in their own world.
 
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Maybe he should go. Maybe he deserves more time. The buyout likely means he’s staying. If Willard can pull it off so can this guy. Time will tell. For now 10 million reasons why he’s staying.

According to Zach, SJU can just "go into the endowment" and buy him out. What a clownish comment, and I usually like the guy.

Sounds like Joe Palooka from Sunnyside, calling WFAN.
 
History shows, maybe this is okay for SJU. A coach that has a team that can compete and play hard, no embarrassing discipline problems (and if there are, the coach deals with it...Curbelo). Hope to be middle of the pack each year and maybe surprise and get in the dance. I don't see the administration that has aspirations more than that. Maybe the NYC press does, but they are in their own world.

Their current president, Shanley, used to be at Providence and was a big supporter of basketball and the changes that were made up there to become more competitive. I don't imagine he'll sit idlily by and accept being middle of the pack.
 
It is no wonder that coaches get paid so well.

We all can recognize that coaching at this level must take a lot of time, energy, dealing, and luck to succeed.

It must be difficult to have your family, players, fans, recruits, and bosses reading articles like this. It can not make success easier.

You can argue Zack is just doing his job, but so is Mike.

The administration AND coach both signed this contract, glad it wasn't me.
 
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Their current president, Shanley, used to be at Providence and was a big supporter of basketball and the changes that were made up there to become more competitive. I don't imagine he'll sit idlily by and accept being middle of the pack.
That may be the case, but it takes more than a new President to shift that tide. We think we have a great leadership combo with Nyre and Lyons, but still have some of the same historical constraints that are slow to change.

It takes resources and more than a couple of wealthy alumni.
 
It would be a big move financially for St. Johns to move on from Anderson and hire Pitino.

We don't have intimate knowledge of their finances but if they can do it and I can't imagine Pitino needs top dollar either who also would love to be at St. Johns they NEED to make that program changing move.

Pitino revolutionizes programs and history just a no brainer for Johnnies if they even have the slightest chance or huge financial commitment that short term hurts other budgets
 
If you look back at all of the hires they have made in the past 30 years you get the feeling that the administration has a short fuse for indiscretions as they terminated Jarvis and Fraschilla; the only two coaches since Louie that had winning records besides Lavin. Some very bad hires (Mahoney, Mullin, etc.) and some that were just underwhelming that had good resumes (Roberts, Anderson). It took them six years to fire Roberts who had a losing record every year.

I don't see them paying a $10 M buyout or even making Pitino an offer if they did. Are they really a place where a great coach (even an up and comer) is going to want to go given their history? We make fun of think small, Seton Hall, but.....We look very fortunate with PJ, Willard and even Orr during the same time.
Three of their last four coaches have inherited unenviable situations.

Roberts took over when the program cratered under Jarvis, who was fired mid-season. Lavin was able to win with Norm's players who were all seniors his first year but wasn't able to build anything sustainable. Lavin left an empty cupboard for Mullin after that second NCAA team and it took Mullin four years to become competitive. When he left, he left Anderson in basically the same spot.

With that said, it's obvious Braziller took his tool box out of storage and dug out the hammer he was using on Anderson last year at this time. Left unsaid in all of this is Mike Cragg's status. Presumably he's on solid ground but I'm not sure that's a guarantee.
 
Willard loved Braziller. Their back and forth was like a comedy routine. Very unusual for our former coach because he was not an openly warm person and Brazillier could get under your skin at times with his questioning.
So a reporter asking transparent questions and not grooving fastballs to a head coach is an issue?
 
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