Biden admin defending vaccinated teachers not returning to work.Makes sense got to payoff your union supporters.I thought Dems were follow the science believers.Guess that only applies if unions don’t disagree.Private workforce only 7% unionized, public about 40 %.Biden talking about creating millions of union jobs in field of renewables.Guess no one has told him private workforce was 25% unionized in 1945 ,but 7% now.
Teachers who won’t go back to work
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Private union labor steep decline since 1980s, quite frankly a huge problem in this country
Maybe it says people would prefer not to be represented by a union. Maybe they feel the company they work for treats them well, provides opportunities and has good benefits. Free market right? If workers felt they could do better, they would organize.
Nothing tops a good skilled union laborer in a niche field. Its corporate america that is killing this off and keeping profits. A union role in a skill industry as least you get a good competitive living wage.
Small sampling but literally every teacher I know well (7) hate their union. they harass, pressure and threaten if you disagree with them.
Ok, they wouldn't be seeing their wages, pto, health coverage without the union
More, for electric as a tech in television media, without ibew, iaste, nabet large corps would pay the hourly or day raters a blah wage yes even in nyc
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I'm not anti-union and trades are a good example where organizing protects the worker. Once again though...most companies respond to the market ...it is competitive in terms of hiring talent (salary, benefits, etc.). If a union could bring value, don't you think workers would consider/embrace them?
Schools at the younger ages should have been open all year, and certainly now with many teachers at the front of the line for the vaccine. What that corrupt union has done to a generation of kids is criminal. I’ve got plenty of public school teacher family and friends, including immediate family employed right here in NJ, and this has been there view all along. A vaccinated teacher doesn’t want to return to in-person instruction for whatever reason? Fire them. Period. There will be a long line of capable replacements. Having elementary school kids in particular attempt at learning via Zoom, without social interaction, is useless and detrimental to them. Forever education was considered an “essential” service, but as usual because of political reasons and political influence they’ve been treated differently from the outset of this. This issue pisses me off as much as all my local bars and restaurants getting their lives destroyed by this. Maybe even more.
Pretty much everyone I have spoken with over the past year that has 1) school age children and 2) the financial means, invested in tutoring (in-person) and other ways to keep their kids learning. So who loses? The families (and their children) that can least afford it.
I know several who fall into this category as well. Or folks like me who are fortunate enough to have a wife that is a former public school teacher, that stopped working after kid #2, and since March has basically been “re-employed” without being paid. And that still doesn’t address the biggest issue for the elementary-aged kids in particular - social interaction.
My brother is a HS guidance counselor at a well-known public school in Bergen. He’s been fighting with his union since last year about their lack of in-person program. He has kids with significant issues who find it hard to speak to him over the computer or on a phone when their parents are in the same house. Or kids who he knows are flying under the radar because he’s unable to see them. He’s made enemies within his department because many of them prefer the more-cushy at home setup with the same pay/benefits and less hours Or who can save some money or avoid scheduling conflicts with their own family they’d have to navigate normally.
My brother is a HS guidance counselor at a well-known public school in Bergen. He’s been fighting with his union since last year about their lack of in-person program. He has kids with significant issues who find it hard to speak to him over the computer or on a phone when their parents are in the same house. Or kids who he knows are flying under the radar because he’s unable to see them. He’s made enemies within his department because many of them prefer the more-cushy at home setup with the same pay/benefits and less hours Or who can save some money or avoid scheduling conflicts with their own family they’d have to navigate normally.
FDR and LaGuarida both refused to let public employees unionize saying it was like fox guarding the hen house.Unfortunately JFK relented and let them and the rest is history as they say. Pols with no backbone gave away generous benefits that have left states with major unfounded benefits liabilities.Why do you unions like teachers only give contributions to Dems.You guessed it lobby money well spent.
The Union helped teachers but like most unions they wear out their welcome. Teachers should get vaccinated, wear a mask and get back to work. Instead the union is holding parents and communities hostage and trying to line their pockets. Like the politicians they support never let a good crisis go to waste.
I have many teachers in my family (Wife, sister, daughter) but I still don't understand how teacher's unions are many times the largest PAC in a particular state and they use that power like crazy. And it's usually not to help the kids or sometimes the teachers - it's to wield power and decide elections. I've heard multiple stories of union reps threatening teachers to do what they say and if they don't and get in trouble with their school system they won't defend them or they will go through the motions but the teacher will lose. There are certainly some town boards that don't negotiate in good faith and that is why the union makes sense. But why are they so political and how does that benefit teachers and the kids? I've seen it time and again over the years in NJ and it can get ugly. Unfortunate part of the teacher landscape IMO.
Hard in most cities to buck teacher unions.Look at Chicago where 75% of students are black or Hispanic.Biden turns his back on the groups who support him and penalize kids who need in school learning the most.His new head of CDC says it is safe to open schools and that moron Psaki says that is her personal opinion, not the admin.The union will tell Biden when schools can open.As I have previously stated 7% of private workforce unionized, about 40 % in public sector.So where are all the unfunded pension and healthcare plans ,you guessed in government.IRS rules on funded pensions don’t apply to government.They always exempt themselves from rules ,but make private companies comply.This is our next 4 years a President who answer to unions like $15 min wage added to stim package.The road to serfdom to quote a famous economist.
