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Jerry Carino @NJHoopsHaven · 23h 23 hours ago

If you're going to hire a favorite son, St. John's shows how you do it: Give him every possible resource so he's in a position to succeed.
 
I love our school, but seeing things like this makes me hate how f*&^ing stupid the people running it are.
 
The sad thing is realizing we should not be surprised.
 
We can all thank Pat Hobbs for absolutely destroying the basketball program. That is what happens when you have the dean of the law school picking head basketball coaches. Only at Seton Hall.
 
St. John's knows where their bread is buttered. Unfortunately I don't think our Admin has ever really gotten it.
 
Originally posted by sportsfantatic44:
We can all thank Pat Hobbs for absolutely destroying the basketball program. That is what happens when you have the dean of the law school picking head basketball coaches. Only at Seton Hall.
I, for one, thank Pat Hobbs every day for saving the athletic department from Sister Bueley (sp), Joe Quinlan and Bobby Gonzalez. We are in a better place compared with five years ago.
 
Originally posted by sportsfantatic44:
We can all thank Pat Hobbs for absolutely destroying the basketball program. That is what happens when you have the dean of the law school picking head basketball coaches. Only at Seton Hall.
Add the BOR to that as well, they had to sign off on it and they always thought, and many probably still do, that Willard was such a great hire. LOL!!!!
 
I would be very disappointed if SJU kicks our butt with a thin lineup and a coach that has never coached. We are all great coaches when we are watching on TV or the day after, but when you actually have to do it, it ain't so easy.
 
SPK, We are not a BigTime Program, and we don't have the recipe for being one. I'm talking about the powers that be. Maybe in the very beginning of our men's BB years, but since then, with the exception of a stretch in the late 80s and early 90s, we've been a bottom feeder. If we win they're OK with that and when we lose it's "oh well." Our administration, BOR, and whoever else holds the reigns at SHU don't have the chops to do what has to be done. We do half ass at the Hall. Every couple of decades that we dance, it isn't because of any support that the powers give us, as they say even a blind squirrel, every once in a while, finds an acorn. Nothing will change until we get the full support, commitment, and financial backing, along with an intelligent plan to succeed. I hope that we haven't "left the cake out in the rain." I'm so tired waiting for something that never happens. As they say, "hope makes for a good breakfast, but a bad dinner."
 
I know the BOR is getting a lot of flak about the undeserved contract extension for Willard and its excessive compensation package, including the buyout for Kevin. In reality I just wonder how many of the 43 members of the BOR actually have the level of interest in , experience and knowledge of our athletic program and what is a reasonable compensation package, for a head basketball coach to do more then just sign off on a contract extension without carefully looking on at in depth and considering its long term strategic impact . Boards generally rubber stamp their approval for issues like contract extensions and compensation following the recommendation of the senior executives of the enterprise as long as the terms are presented in a way that says they are consistent with others in their peer group. Should they have been more engaged and questioning and probe deeper, of course but they apparently weren't and that's not unusual and the results speak for themselves .
 
Originally posted by hallgrad80:
Should they have been more engaged and questioning and probe deeper, of course but they apparently weren't and that's not unusual and the results speak for themselves .
80, You are right in that Boards do depend on the "experts" in the room to make a recommendation and demonstrate that it is competitive and commensurate with the experience and performance of an executive. Boards are supposed to advise and guide the organization and ask the tough questions as stewards of the organization. They should take that responsibility seriously and never "rubber stamp" a decision that has million dollars of impact. You sign your name on something; you are responsible.
 
Obviously, the board doesn't care or know much about men's basketball. Just another item on the list.

But there should have been at least one loud, smart voice to fight this deal.

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