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This person was allowed to be a school bus driver

I'm stunned!! No oversight or background check?

It is certainly a horrible tragedy, but it reads to me that there was oversight and a background check. Appears he had one moving violation in the last 10 years and met the requirements to be a driver but made a horrible decision on that day.
 
It was a terrible tragedy and the driver should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. That being said, he was qualified to drive a bus. Per the article -

"None of Muldrow's previous problems with his license disqualified him from driving a school bus in New Jersey, she said. Under state law, a driver does not lose a commercial drivers license with a school bus and passenger endorsement unless they accumulate 12 or more points on their license at one time."

What is needed is more government oversight at the local level, the state level and possibly the Federal level to eliminate these kinds of tragedies in the future.
 
Privatization does not change the outcome here. The driver was eligible to drive.
 
Just a horrible accident...extremely bad judgement but he was legal. I cringed when I saw his age. We employ a few drivers (couriers and CDL’s that are retired and in their 60’s/70’s. They don’t have passengers but it is something you need to monitor as we age. Haven’t seen the safety rep for the bus company But no reason to making sweeping accusations.
 
Uhm, sorry the headline is worse than his record. Yes he had 14 suspensions over a 40 year period of time but 13 of the times were failure to pay parking tickets or administration reasons. I don't think his record was bad at all. He had no points on his license and and a valid CDL license. Sometimes people make a bad decision and tragedy follows in that decision. It is called accidents. And accidents happen all the time. The call for him to go to jail without any criminal intent and to forfeit his pension is outlandish. My heart goes out to the families of the victims of this accident.

Quite frankly, I have no idea how privatization would do anything. How many Atlantic City bus crashes have there been over the years. Jeez have you ever been in an accident yourself?
 
Uhm, sorry the headline is worse than his record. Yes he had 14 suspensions over a 40 year period of time but 13 of the times were failure to pay parking tickets or administration reasons. I don't think his record was bad at all. He had no points on his license and and a valid CDL license. Sometimes people make a bad decision and tragedy follows in that decision. It is called accidents. And accidents happen all the time. The call for him to go to jail without any criminal intent and to forfeit his pension is outlandish. My heart goes out to the families of the victims of this accident.

Quite frankly, I have no idea how privatization would do anything. How many Atlantic City bus crashes have there been over the years. Jeez have you ever been in an accident yourself?

I agree. He made a dumb and careless decision but he should not go to jail.
 
Privatization does not change the outcome here. The driver was eligible to drive.

The driver was eligible by government standards. If privatized, the company owners would make a decision to hire him or not to. I, personally, would not have. Free markets would dictate that he can choose a company who would take the risk to hire him based on his past. If he found himself shut out of driving opportunity, there are other senior citizen jobs he could take on if he interviewed well.
 
Uhm, sorry the headline is worse than his record. Yes he had 14 suspensions over a 40 year period of time but 13 of the times were failure to pay parking tickets or administration reasons. I don't think his record was bad at all. He had no points on his license and and a valid CDL license. Sometimes people make a bad decision and tragedy follows in that decision. It is called accidents. And accidents happen all the time. The call for him to go to jail without any criminal intent and to forfeit his pension is outlandish. My heart goes out to the families of the victims of this accident.

Quite frankly, I have no idea how privatization would do anything. How many Atlantic City bus crashes have there been over the years. Jeez have you ever been in an accident yourself?

Why is it so outlandish to punish a government worker for lack of adequate performance? Private sector would fire the guy and allow him to purchase COBRA to support his family or go on Medicaid. This asshole keeps his pension at WE PAID for plus possibly keep his job.
 
The driver was eligible by government standards. If privatized, the company owners would make a decision to hire him or not to. I, personally, would not have. Free markets would dictate that he can choose a company who would take the risk to hire him based on his past. If he found himself shut out of driving opportunity, there are other senior citizen jobs he could take on if he interviewed well.

You should go research qualifications for being a truck driver.

10% of truck drivers are over 65.

Stop pretending this guy wouldn’t have been hired from a private company. You’re making that up. He has a CDL and 10 years without a moving violation.

He made a horrible mistake, same as some truck drivers who work for private companies. There are about 125,000 truck accidents per year where the truck driver was at fault.

Stop trying to make this something it isn’t.
 
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The driver was eligible by government standards. If privatized, the company owners would make a decision to hire him or not to. I, personally, would not have. Free markets would dictate that he can choose a company who would take the risk to hire him based on his past. If he found himself shut out of driving opportunity, there are other senior citizen jobs he could take on if he interviewed well.

The Paramus Board of Ed had the freedom not to hire him. If you were the Superintendent of Schools he would not have been hired. The fact remains privatization is not the issue in this case.
 
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Any chance we could wait to hear what the investigation yields or should we just go down to Home Depot and buy the lumber to build the gallows?
 
What happened was a tragedy but the important question is whether there is a systemic problem with respect to who is allowed to drive a school bus and what oversight and monitoring is in place once a driver has been hired .
 
Saw it our paper this morning.

Two counts of vehicular homicide.

Will be tough to prove. They have to prove beyond.a reasonable doubt that he acts " recklessly when he/she consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that death will result from his/her conduct." This means that there Is a probability as opposed to a possibility that death will occur.
 
Will be tough to prove. They have to prove beyond.a reasonable doubt that he acts " recklessly when he/she consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that death will result from his/her conduct." This means that there Is a probability as opposed to a possibility that death will occur.
If the DOT video shows what seemsto have happened, (i.e. driving perpendicular across the highway to reach an illegal u-turn spot) is that enough to convict him?
 
The charges could be a negotiation tactic. Charge him hard and get him to plea manslaughter.

I read where he was denying making the U-Turn. Maybe the DA needed to send a shot across his bow.
 
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