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All the data I’ve seen indicates that Millennials and GenZ in general have no allegiance or affinity to either party. Bernie, who is an independent, is proof of that.
 
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Not necessarily about allegiance, but not really a coincidence that dems has their largest mid term win ever with the highest mid term youth turnout.

Not incurable going forward but if younger voters remain engaged, republicans are going to need to make some changes to attract more of those voters. Though, it might not be so easy to keep Trump’s base and broaden youth support at the same time.
 
All the data I’ve seen indicates that Millennials and GenZ in general have no allegiance or affinity to either party. Bernie, who is an independent, is proof of that.
not a party unless that party is aligned with their lifestyle. makes sense an independent could take hold. that generation is very loyal to people or brands that represent them, fully grown up on internet/social media where their interests/beliefs are put on show. should be interesting.
 
Not necessarily about allegiance, but not really a coincidence that dems has their largest mid term win ever with the highest mid term youth turnout.

Not incurable going forward but if younger voters remain engaged, republicans are going to need to make some changes to attract more of those voters. Though, it might not be so easy to keep Trump’s base and broaden youth support at the same time.
Not sure I agree about mid term. Youth vote now is about hate for Trump; nothing to do with Dem platform.
 
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Not sure I agree about mid term. Youth vote now is about hate for Trump; nothing to do with Dem platform.
yea but trump = republican and in a 2 party system (realistically) anti republican = democrat.

anti trump = dem

thats the situation
 
yea but trump = republican and in a 2 party system (realistically) anti republican = democrat.

anti trump = dem

thats the situation
Right now it is. Trump loses next week, and face of the party could become Tim Scott and Nikki Haley. Doesn’t mean that youth one flock to them either, but it does change the dynamics.
 
Right now it is. Trump loses next week, and face of the party could become Tim Scott and Nikki Haley. Doesn’t mean that youth one flock to them either, but it does change the dynamics.
What happened to bobby jindal?
 
Since we tend to follow follow Western European trends I predict in about 20 years we will have 4 parties and our economy will be much closer to socialism than capitalism.This could be accelerated if as projected Biden wins and vacates office during first term giving Harris opportunity to go far left.Despite top marginal rates of 90% plus the amount of Federal income tax has been between 18 -21 % of GDP in the last 60 years so the whole tax system will have to be changed to increase this percentage.
 
Since we tend to follow follow Western European trends I predict in about 20 years we will have 4 parties and our economy will be much closer to socialism than capitalism.This could be accelerated if as projected Biden wins and vacates office during first term giving Harris opportunity to go far left.Despite top marginal rates of 90% plus the amount of Federal income tax has been between 18 -21 % of GDP in the last 60 years so the whole tax system will have to be changed to increase this percentage.
Checks and balances, the only one party railroad system is the republicans for making the scotus 6-3 conservative...there will not be an extreme far left cleasing happening
 
NY shore guy have you concluded that Biden will not pack Supreme Court if elected ?
 
If Biden wins and Senate stays Republican (which is the most likely outcome), I don’t expect much to happen. We need some fresh blood and candidates that demonstrate leadership.
 
Since we tend to follow follow Western European trends I predict in about 20 years we will have 4 parties and our economy will be much closer to socialism than capitalism.This could be accelerated if as projected Biden wins and vacates office during first term giving Harris opportunity to go far left.Despite top marginal rates of 90% plus the amount of Federal income tax has been between 18 -21 % of GDP in the last 60 years so the whole tax system will have to be changed to increase this percentage.
who is projecting biden to vacate office?
 
Not sure I agree about mid term. Youth vote now is about hate for Trump; nothing to do with Dem platform.

Yeah, Trump was a big part of it but their views on the most important issues to them are generally are much closer to the dem platform right now.

If they stay active politically, republicans will need to start to shift on some key issues. Not that they need to adopt liberal policies, but a more moderate approach towards things like the environment, immigration, healthcare, etc..
 
Checks and balances, the only one party railroad system is the republicans for making the scotus 6-3 conservative...there will not be an extreme far left cleasing happening

The Supreme Court is not a partisan institution. Elections have consequences.
 
The Supreme Court is not a partisan institution. Elections have consequences.

If the consequence of an election where democrats win and appoint justices that share certain beliefs, or vice versa... how can we say the court isn’t partisan?

it absolutely is partisan. Not on every issue, but all of the justices are selected on both sides because their careers have been vetted and we know how they will likely opine on certain key issues.

I hope Joe fulfills his promise to work to depoliticize the process with experts from both sides.
 
The Supreme Court is not a partisan institution. Elections have consequences.
Well the people on the court get nominated based on partisan preference. You dont see Trump seeking the most liberal ruling circuit court judge nor would you see Clinton/Obama seeking most conservative judge.
 
Yeah, Trump was a big part of it but their views on the most important issues to them are generally are much closer to the dem platform right now.

If they stay active politically, republicans will need to start to shift on some key issues. Not that they need to adopt liberal policies, but a more moderate approach towards things like the environment, immigration, healthcare, etc..
Millenials and GenZ do not think healthcare is a major issue. They barely consume it and most are covered under their parents policy. I would also question if immigration was high on their radar.
 
Unfortunately, with no filibuster and only 51 votes needed to move a justice through the Senate and get confirmed to the Supreme Court, both parties will be incentivized to nominate ever more reliably liberal or conservative judges when their party controls both the Presidency and the Senate.
 
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Unfortunately, with no filibuster and only 51 votes needed to move a justice through the Senate and get confirmed to the Supreme Court, both parties will be incentivized to nominate ever more reliably liberal or conservative judges when their party controls both the Presidency and the Senate.
But now next judge wont be until breyer or Thomas get gravely ill doubt either would retire.

2 of the 8 and soon to be 3 of the 9 will be trump appointed and lowest vote totals since clarence Thomas alito got b 58 to 42 nay kagan and rest atleast 63 yay
 
Since we tend to follow follow Western European trends I predict in about 20 years we will have 4 parties and our economy will be much closer to socialism than capitalism.This could be accelerated if as projected Biden wins and vacates office during first term giving Harris opportunity to go far left.Despite top marginal rates of 90% plus the amount of Federal income tax has been between 18 -21 % of GDP in the last 60 years so the whole tax system will have to be changed to increase this percentage.
This
 
But now next judge wont be until breyer or Thomas get gravely ill doubt either would retire.

2 of the 8 and soon to be 3 of the 9 will be trump appointed and lowest vote totals since clarence Thomas alito got b 58 to 42 nay kagan and rest atleast 63 yay

It's pretty naive to think that Biden won't expand the court in the first year or two of his term.
 
If the repubs keep the Senate, will they unpack the court, ie, not give a hearing/vote to anybody?
 
It's pretty naive to think that Biden won't expand the court in the first year or two of his term.

There was zero risk of that occurring until republicans decided to rush through a nominee.

Even so, I don't think that is close to a certainty.
If it is not politically advantageous for them to do so (and I am not convinced it is) then they won't.
 
It's pretty naive to think that Biden won't expand the court in the first year or two of his term.
I don’t think he will, nor does he want to. Thus a panel to study the courts. Besides, if he added judges in search of a one vote ideological majority, what‘s to stop the Republicans from doing the same next time they control the Presidency snd the Senate. Do we want a court with 13 judges, 15, 17? The more there are, the less accountability and it just becomes a miniature House of Representatives.
 
I don’t think he will, nor does he want to. Thus a panel to study the courts. Besides, if he added judges in search of a one vote ideological majority, what‘s to stop the Republicans from doing the same next time they control the Presidency snd the Senate. Do we want a court with 13 judges, 15, 17? The more there are, the less accountability and it just becomes a miniature House of Representatives.
it is pandering to the base right now who are apoplectic about ACB being approved. This would not be a good political move for Biden if he wins.
 
I don’t think he will, nor does he want to. Thus a panel to study the courts. Besides, if he added judges in search of a one vote ideological majority, what‘s to stop the Republicans from doing the same next time they control the Presidency snd the Senate. Do we want a court with 13 judges, 15, 17? The more there are, the less accountability and it just becomes a miniature House of Representatives.

I think whether he "wants to" or not is immaterial. You bring up a very good point though; I would prefer that the SCOTUS not become a mini House of Representatives -- they should be interpreting the Constitution, not legislating (which they clearly have done in recent times).
 
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Trump's not a republican, he's just himself and republicans decided 4 years ago that he was a lesser evil than a democrat. Now we're here.

The sooner Trump leaves office, the better for the republican party - the sooner it can start rebuilding its image. An 8 year Trump presidency would alienate a generation of voters simply due to associating the party with him. I guess that's the price of a deal with the devil.
 
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Schumer wants Biden to add 2 justices to court so Roberts becomes the swing vote.Roberts is very conscious of public reaction to decisions as exhibited in him concluding the Obamacare mandate was a tax so lawful even though Obama insisted it was not.He
sees himself IMO as protector of public image of court and this seems to guide some of his opinions,
 
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