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He will bring his ideas to a stage and there will be a debate that takes place where we can hear more about it and make our own decisions on who the nominee will be.

Any updates when Biden and RFK Jr will debate?
 
He will bring his ideas to a stage and there will be a debate that takes place where we can hear more about it and make our own decisions on who the nominee will be.

Any updates when Biden and RFK Jr will debate?
Rfk wont be in the picture
 
He will bring his ideas to a stage and there will be a debate that takes place where we can hear more about it and make our own decisions on who the nominee will be.

It's not that unusual to talk about the positions that candidates have here though.
Outside of being a great speaker, Vivek really just doesn't have much substance.

Any updates when Biden and RFK Jr will debate?

After RFK Jr wins the republican primary?
 
Pretty much every candidate panders to segments of voters with their positions. Eliminating student loan debt? Lol

OP is obviously triggered by Republican candidates in his private echo chamber. Reminds me of the saying “All hat; no cattle”….his version “All tweet; no substance”
 
It's not that unusual to talk about the positions that candidates have here though.
Outside of being a great speaker, Vivek really just doesn't have much substance.



After RFK Jr wins the republican primary?
You talk about substance then throw out that comment. No substance whatsoever.
 
Pretty much every candidate panders to segments of voters with their positions. Eliminating student loan debt? Lol

OP is obviously triggered by Republican candidates in his private echo chamber. Reminds me of the saying “All hat; no cattle”….his version “All tweet; no substance”
Vivek is a fake a lesser trump
 
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You talk about substance then throw out that comment. No substance whatsoever.

About RFK Jr? Over 70% of Dems say they would support Biden in a primary.
Discussion on a potential primary when we haven't had an incumbent primary in my lifetime is pretty ridiculous.
 
Most of the republican candidates know they have no chance of winning. They run because they can fund raise and gain publicity.

When the campaign is over, any funds remaining are kept in the campaign fund and can be used at to donate to ay other campaign (local, state, or federal) of their choosing. They can alos donate unlimited amounts to a political party, i.e. the RNC, DNC, etc.

Such donations then allow for higher standing and influence in the party.

 
About RFK Jr? Over 70% of Dems say they would support Biden in a primary.
Discussion on a potential primary when we haven't had an incumbent primary in my lifetime is pretty ridiculous.
Question isn't about what's been done in a lifetime. It's about what is right.
 
Question isn't about what's been done in a lifetime. It's about what is right.

I personally do not want a constant election cycle on both sides for incumbents and challengers. When you vote for a candidate, the presumption is that if they win, they will be on the ticket again in 4 years.

If they become wildly unpopular, and a primary challengers success is possible then I'd agree there should be one. That's just not the case here though. You just want it because RFK JR attracts people who are not liberal and he would be attacking the party you don't like.

I wouldn't view that as the "right" thing for the democratic party to support.
 
I personally do not want a constant election cycle on both sides for incumbents and challengers. When you vote for a candidate, the presumption is that if they win, they will be on the ticket again in 4 years.

If they become wildly unpopular, and a primary challengers success is possible then I'd agree there should be one. That's just not the case here though. You just want it because RFK JR attracts people who are not liberal and he would be attacking the party you don't like.

I wouldn't view that as the "right" thing for the democratic party to support.
Just because he would attack a party I don't like. Yeah ok.

Crap happens over time. I think a lot of people thought Trump would be re-elected President on September 13th 2019. Had there been a primary someone potentially could've beaten him as his antics wore thin during Covid.

I think it's pretty stupid no matter who is in office if you don't like the job the current guy is doing, the only way you get to vote on a new guy is to vote for the other party.
 
Crap happens over time. I think a lot of people thought Trump would be re-elected President on September 13th 2019. Had there been a primary someone potentially could've beaten him as his antics wore thin during Covid.

Trump's approval ratings increased between this point and election day.
Will likely be the case for Biden as well. That's what tends to happen during a campaign cycle.


I think it's pretty stupid no matter who is in office if you don't like the job the current guy is doing, the only way you get to vote on a new guy is to vote for the other party.

That's the part you're missing. Dems approve of Biden.
He's polling around 87% approval with Dems right now. There is just no reason for dems to be perusing a primary. The only people who really want a democratic primary aren't democrats.
 
In all honesty, do you really think he is fit to serve another four years?
 
In all honesty, do you really think he is fit to serve another four years?

Not in my opinion, and that's why even though I'm one of the more liberal people on this board I would vote for a few Republicans over him.

I wanted him to back out, but as long as he wants to stay in and dems approve of his performance (and they do) then he is the candidate.
 
Not in my opinion, and that's why even though I'm one of the more liberal people on this board I would vote for a few Republicans over him.

I wanted him to back out, but as long as he wants to stay in and dems approve of his performance (and they do) then he is the candidate.
It’s crazy that Trump has so much support. It’s also crazy that the majority of Democrats support a man who does not have the ability to function in his job.
 
Trump's approval ratings increased between this point and election day.
Will likely be the case for Biden as well. That's what tends to happen during a campaign cycle.
Approval ratings and primaries are 2 different things. A mediocre or even good approval rating doesn't mean
That's the part you're missing. Dems approve of Biden.
He's polling around 87% approval with Dems right now. There is just no reason for dems to be perusing a primary. The only people who really want a democratic primary aren't democrats.
I'm a registered democrat, so there goes that theory.

I would vote for RFK because he's the only talking about the food to pharmaceutical cycle where Americans are getting unhealthier and the big food companies and pharmaceutical companies are getting rich. Who else is talking about this? About 6 months ago we were talking the biggest concerns in America and obesity was one of them. Which other candidate is talking about that. None because you'll lose funding.

 
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/live-to-100-secrets-of-the-blue-zones-documentary

To your point, this was a great documentary on Netflix. Three years since the start of the pandemic, we have an even unhealthier population with absolutely no guidance from leaders on one of the biggest challenges facing our country.

The amazing thing, this really isn’t rocket science. No secret what each of these societies/communities have in common. It almost seems like our politicians don’t support any of these factors.
 
Approval ratings and primaries are 2 different things.
Exactly... and the party of the incumbent is not going to support a primary challenge when their approval rating of their party member is high.

I'm a registered democrat, so there goes that theory.

That may be how you're registered, but lets be real here... You're not a democrat.

I would vote for RFK because he's the only talking about the food to pharmaceutical cycle where Americans are getting unhealthier and the big food companies and pharmaceutical companies are getting rich.

and that's fine, but RFK Jr should have run 4 years ago in the normal primary process... not when the incumbent party is in power when incumbent parties traditionally do not support primary challenges.
 
Exactly... and the party of the incumbent is not going to support a primary challenge when their approval rating of their party member is high.
Don't care if it's democrat or republican, the people should decide not the party. Isn't that what democracy should be about. Democrats don't want democracy to play out? Sounds like a name change is needed. Even if the sitting president has 100% approval rating from his party, that doesn't mean if he ran vs someone in a primary, he would be guaranteed victory. It's possible even with 100% approval rating, there's someone better the people want.

That may be how you're registered, but lets be real here... You're not a democrat.
What has morphed into today's democratic party, absolutely not. I'm as much a democrat as NYShoreGuy is a non partisan. LOL

and that's fine, but RFK Jr should have run 4 years ago in the normal primary process... not when the incumbent party is in power when incumbent parties traditionally do not support primary challenges.
Disagree, based on my response to the first comment.
 
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