Goodbye Seton Hall basketball.
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-...g-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-...g-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html
And here it is...Whitehead named in Impermissible Benefits
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Dan, it looks like that's one source you can cross off the list of trusting again.
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anon_4htvdezyfe7k9
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Ugh. Not trying to be naive and obviously there's plenty more to come out, but if an agent paid IW, that doesn't necessarily mean we were culpable does it?
"at the time a freshman at seton hall"
So SHU didn't pay him? The agent did? Sowhy would SHU bball get shut down? @The SHUttle
Now it seems our BET banner, NCAA banner and 26 wins will get vacated.
So SHU didn't pay him? The agent did? Sowhy would SHU bball get shut down? @The SHUttle
Now it seems our BET banner, NCAA banner and 26 wins will get vacated.
Normally, it would. I guess we'll find out since we'll ultimately be lumped in with 50 schools what the NCAA decides to do. It just shows how clueless Seton Hall is. Assured we're not named at all and we're literally the first ones outed.
Think Mother Seton can help here? Or sadly do we need to speak to St Jude?
The article mainly states this scum of an agent wasn’t paying players to go to a certain school, he was paying them in hopes of getting a signature to represent them when the time comes.
There were a few references of meeting with coaches which could be a problem. From the article there will be eligibility concerns and forfeiting of wins because of possible payments. As per this article the vacating of wins seems possible, but did the School have any involvement?
There were a few references of meeting with coaches which could be a problem. From the article there will be eligibility concerns and forfeiting of wins because of possible payments. As per this article the vacating of wins seems possible, but did the School have any involvement?
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I don't have any inside knowledge. I just don't have my head in the sand. There's definitely more with Whitehead, Morton, Antigua. It's obvious.
I did have inside knowledge of Hill during SHU tenure 1 and at RU. I posted numerous times asking do you really think he stopped? I posted numerous times about just the sheer logic of do you really think Antigua decided to start cheating when he got to USF?
Don't be naive.
I did have inside knowledge of Hill during SHU tenure 1 and at RU. I posted numerous times asking do you really think he stopped? I posted numerous times about just the sheer logic of do you really think Antigua decided to start cheating when he got to USF?
Don't be naive.
I can live with this, if this is all it was. Yes it sucks we will probably have to vacate a big east tournament win, but an agent and a player deal is a lot different than a coach reeling in a player in which the school knew it was violating every rule. I think coaches and programs creating a culture of dirty dealings is a lot worse than this.
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And Kyle Lowry, among others, was mentioned too. Just not highlighted because they weren't one of the top 3 payees.
Agreed but until the proof comes out, this news isn't as terrible as it could be.
No wonder why Isaiah had to leave early for the NBA. He had to pay that sleazy agent back, having sold his soul for some immediate cash.
Why can't anyone delay gratification anymore?
Why can't anyone delay gratification anymore?
No no no, those schools paid the player money to go there.... as of now different. From what is written this agent paid IW for hopes of signing him when the time comes
You can live with it, but you do realize under normal circumstances it means vacating all wins he was part of and a postseason ban, right? We'll see what happens since we're "fortunate" enough to be lumped in with every major program it seems.
The proof is out. Come on man. The exact amount paid out to Isaiah with banking info!
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Sounds like Whiteheads mom was hungry for cash. Wasnt she a big reason he entered draft?
Yes but right now that's far better than having concrete proof coaches were involved and could destroy future success.
Yes, that's what has been said or that the family had a financial need. These sports agents should go to jail for manipulating vulnerable kids from our inner cities.
Hopefully from the looks of things, it’s a scumbag agent giving kids money in hopes they remember that when it’s time to sign with an agent...
You just gotta be nervous because I’m
Just expecting that all 5* players get stuff like this, plain and simple
It's always agents. They have runners that funnel cash to guys they deem pro prospects in the hopes that they'll sign with the agency when they leave school. The University (every university) has a lot of plausible deniability in a situation like this. IW signed NCAA papers each year attesting that he was an amateur and hadn't/wasn't receiving money.
(FWIW it's not basketball but the NCAA never sanctioned Tennessee after Arian Foster admitted to being paid by an agent during his senior year. )
Who knows how the NCAA will handle this case but considering this list includes active players I'd assume they'll start there.
Speaking of which what worries me is that Whitehead is now a client of RocNation. Wasn't that the agency that was courting Delgado over the summer?
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Agreed and considering we are few and far between getting 5 stars I have to believe our staff is saint like compared to others.
Postseason ban? I’m not sure if it can only be proved the agent gave him money to sign with him...
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Wonder if the potential distraction of this whole thing bubbling to the surface explains our team’s play the last several weeks.
The article seems to be a lot about this guy paying future possible pros. There are a few current players.. but just from what I read skimming through, I don’t know how much really implicates schools of being complicit with this guy other than him having dinner with Izzo and Nova
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Incredible that we made it through the Gonzo era unscathed and now this...
For the top players the NBA forces them to delay gratification by not allowing them to go pro after high school. Put yourself in one of these kid's shoes. You're a poor 18 year old kid who could potentially make life-changing money for your family.
If anything this proves that the NCAA can't enforce their own rulebook. The notion of amateurism as defined by the NCAA is a joke and if college athletes got just a little slice of the pie they wouldn't be forced to look for it on the black market.
Gonzo didn't land 1 top 100 player out of HS after he coached his first SHU game. He got Harvey an dDavis before he ever coached a game here then after that not 1. That was the start of our self penalized 10 year post season ban. Maybe the NCAA will look favorably on us and give us a credit on our next penalty.
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