Dre is not MIP
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I think Dre is very deserving of the award. However, Claude was a stud. Went from 4.7 PPG to this year averaging 16 ppg.
Dre was never in running IMHO
He was pretty darn good last year.
He was pretty darn good last year.
He most certainly was in the running. So much so that the school was pushing him hard behind the scenes.
This is where the coaches got it wrong. Xavier was a better team last season, therefore Claude's improvement was a non-factor in the team's success. Dre's improvement was in all areas of his game and has a lot to do with our success. Carino is right. It would be interesting to see how the coaches voted, did Dre get any votes?
Unfortunate but maybe it’s what leads him to a huge March and motivates him to come back and be in the running for BE POY next year
Yea, somehow I don't think him not winning is going to be the motivating factor in this respect, lol.....
Now, let's pretend the reverse. Dre Davis with his statistics on Xavier. Claude on Seton Hall, same statistics, the better team last year.
Xavier kid wins, or you go with the Hall player no matter what?
People draw motivation from many different things. To some being told you can’t or you didn’t deserve something is a true motivator. I don’t know him personally so I can’t say but I’m sure players with a certain DNA will use it.
I really don't think MIP is that big a deal. Means you weren't very good last year.
If worthy, of course. But I have inside contacts and I know what the expectations were.
Notice the last few games what the announcers were saying about Davis and most improved? That was no coincidence.
Notice the last few games what the announcers were saying about Davis and most improved? That was no coincidence.
Claude went from nobody to serviceable player on a bad team
Dre went from serviceable on a bad team to being a star on an NCAA tournament team.
Not sure what the deciding factor was, but I’m happy about this because knowing what we know about Dre… he’s going to come out and prove himself
Dre went from serviceable on a bad team to being a star on an NCAA tournament team.
Not sure what the deciding factor was, but I’m happy about this because knowing what we know about Dre… he’s going to come out and prove himself
Davis deserved some type of recognition, whether it be most improved or all BE honorable mention. Disappointing.
Well obviously the
OK but to win this award means you come back from a subpar year last year or as some would say a " bad year"
Dre played well last year and looked terrific at times I thought..
Ya if you look at this objectively you can't be mad. Claude averaged like 5 PPG last season. Dre was very good last year
He would have won if he was worse last year.
X lost 4 starters from last year. Their 5th got hurt and never played this season. I’m sure Claude improved but his numbers are dramatically better because all the guys in front of him last year are either gone or hurt.
Davis increased his production on basically the same team as last year.
Compare for yourself.
Davis' numbers are better but Claude made a bigger improvement
www.espn.com
www.espn.com
Davis' numbers are better but Claude made a bigger improvement
Desmond Claude - Xavier Musketeers Guard - ESPN
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Dre Davis - Seton Hall Pirates Guard - ESPN
View the profile of Seton Hall Pirates Guard Dre Davis on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.
I love that someone called 16 PPG serviceable. I’ll take some serviceable players.
Like to see Dre go big for tournament MVP.
Like to see Dre go big for tournament MVP.
Would love to see him back, but in one of articles about him last week mentioned parents were moving back to Indiana, to me that said he will not be back here next year, but we can always dream.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at ND, IU or Butler to make it easier on family. On the other hand, his wife/partner is done at SPU, so she can spend more time with their baby.
Got it. My bad.
So I’m guessing the number equates to the level of points they would give up to their matchups in 100 possessions, correct ?
And I guess that means that Dre pretty much was better in just about every category.
