Two weeks ago, if SHU beats Nova they are most likely in, if they beat Depaul they CLINCH the NCAA"s, and how conference tournaments dont really move the needle, now that we lost all of us suddenly changed?
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My opinion has not changed since beating Nova.
You never know if the committee will do something differently this year, but historically conference tournaments have not meant much at all.
I think the order is likely done but auto-bids could shift that a bit to knock us into Dayton. We should have some room before we'd be knocked out entirely though.
You never know if the committee will do something differently this year, but historically conference tournaments have not meant much at all.
I think the order is likely done but auto-bids could shift that a bit to knock us into Dayton. We should have some room before we'd be knocked out entirely though.
I think you guys are in, but a win over St. John's would've clinched it. I would've rather the score be tighter on the loss as well. You will have to see on selection Sunday, but I like your odds.
13-7 in this year's big east is a pretty strong record especially coupled with decent quad one wins.
Our team does not play or exist in a vacuum. There are a dozen other teams on the bubble all doing different things -- winning and losing -- and there are also teams not even on the bubble charging in to steal bids from other bubbalicious teams.
And what it is is just one item of data the selection committee will consider. Another is our dreadful out-of-conference showing, which also is what it is.
We're still "in" on most forecasts. Wachtel has us in the play-in game as an 11 seed. Lunardi has us last 4 in. That's a few spots ahead of Jerry Palm, who has consistently had us on the outside. He now has us last 4 out.
DeCourcy has now dropped us to his last 4 in and in Dayton.
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DeCourcy has now dropped us to his last 4 in and in Dayton.
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Winners of six of its last seven, Ohio State appears in the group of next four out on Mike DeCourcy's latest NCAA Tournament projections.
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This is not factually correct. Shu beat miami to make the QF in the old big east east west routine and got handled by uconn...shu also had a poor ooc that year...there were no play in rounds and rpi was the net so really not a true comparison
Ok. That wasn’t my recollection. But I’d wager we were the first 10-6 to be left out.
And obviously we had a poor OOC. I think that season’s turn around began with the G’town 6 man game
I still wanna know why were all so worried when they stated beat Nova your LIKELY in, beat Depaul your IN, now we lose to SJU on their home court *when people said conference tournaments dont matter * and we suddenly are no longer in......
Beating St. John’s yesterday would have made us a lock. It was a very bad performance and others on bubble are making stronger case. Conference tournaments matter. Still think we might get in but far from lock now. Others are jumping past us.
I never said that. Others did. I am not sure how many think we are lock as of right now. I say in but going to depend on other outcomes over next few days.
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if 13-7 in our conference is no good what the f is
It's unfortunate that Seton Hall only has one reporter really covering this team. People are going to take whatever he says as gospel because, well, there's nobody else to say anything else. He's the only person of any note to say Seton Hall was a lock and he's set himself up to look like a fool. They were never a lock. Anyone who seriously follows the selection process knows that. They were at one point likely and anyone saying that would have been correct. But they were absolutely, positively never a lock. Now they're not even likely. 50-50.
You're not a lock for the tournament just because your one beat reporter says so.
I'll now go crawl back into the hole I've been hiding in for years.
That would be their ultimate prize for the season: give us a bad loss at home and have that be among the deciding factors to keep us out. Their fans would just eat that up.
Because no one really knows.
But…Wachtel has been incredibly accurate in the past…so I’m going with him! LOL
I think it’s all related to how “good” is that record. Meaning, as someone else has pointed out, we had basically 4 automatic wins…so that gets us to 9-7 against the “competitive “ members of the conference.
Like it or not, those are real facts.
So…we may still need some help. I think we’re still in…but…depends a lot on what happens with the other bubble teams
You also beat uconn without big man and beat pc when a top 3 player is lost to injury
“You”? Aren’t you a Hall fan? Shouldn’t that be “we”?
But yes I get the point.
But you could cut apart a lot of games. So to get that deep is tough…you’d have to dissect everyone’s games that deep.
But I agree, it record was not as impressive as the numbers might indicate.
But will we get a bid? We’ll see.
What will we do with it? We’ll also see.
Based on our season, we were very up and down…so we’ll have to see who shows up
I am a supporter through an objective lens...yes games without kadary at full health and playing also are taken into account
With St Johns surging & Prov beating Creighton we are in trouble. If Prov should knock off Marquette tonight, we will be on the outside looking in. Have to root for Market--
Because that is what fans do. Also, 95% of the projections had RU in last year so you never know. It is natural to assume worst cast scenario. I think you are in, but I don't know anything. ( well maybe more than Jerry Palm. BTW, on the RU board BAC does a really good job with this stuff.
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