NIT Game Tonight
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You're right. I kind of smirked at this matchup when it was announced, thinking of it as an audition game for us...
Even though Rhode Island is the favorite, you'd have to think the matchup somewhat favors Iona. Due to the Gaels' style of play, they can be difficult to prepare for with just one day's practice. Hurley will surely use film of the MAAC title game to prep his team. We'll see how Cluess adjusts. Go Gaels!
I don't want any part of Cluess and I think we can do better than Danny. From what I've seen, Danny is a great defensive coach but his offense leaves much to be desired. I think Bobby is a better fit. He plays up tempo and doesn't neglect defense like Cluess does.
I dont agree or disagree and I dont know enough about basketball to argue. However, I think the number 1 thing our new coach should be able to do is recruit. We have had 2 consecutive coaches for almost 10 years where the fundamental problem has been they have no been able to regularly get BE calibar talent.
Think of this how many times in the past 10 years have we had classes signed and lined up during the normal periods with the rest of D-1 every year we are ALWAYS behind. Crazy.
Think of this how many times in the past 10 years have we had classes signed and lined up during the normal periods with the rest of D-1 every year we are ALWAYS behind. Crazy.
I would be absolutely thrilled to get either Hurley here. I think you're right in that maybe we could lure someone who's had a little more past success, I just happen to 100% believe in the Hurleys both being big time coaches and in Jersey with all of the connections and respect of the family, I just think it'd be a home run for us. I really think it's a momentous blunder to leave them out there. Both are on their way to bigger and better things, I'd just really like that thing to be Seton Hall.
I don't know how much sway the high school coaches hold over their star players in New Jersey anymore, anyway. It's all about AAU connections now. But if there is one HS coach who might have some input, it's probably Bob Sr.
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Top 3? Who's the 3rd?
I can't imagine going back to the Iona well again. IDK much about Cluess but almost think you have to cross him off the list based on principle.
Danny Hurley is the guy I've wanted for a while now. Conflicting opinions on whether or not he'd be interested, but just makes sense to me for a lot of reasons. Of course, we still have a HC....
Cluess still feels kind of gimmicky to me. Hard to ignore his track record though. Danny Hurley is about as close to a no-brainer as it gets for a school like Seton Hall. He's turned around two college programs now (and he also built St. Bens into a state HS power). What he's done at Rhode Island is damned impressive, particularly considering the quality of that league. I realize Danny hasn't made the tournament yet, but I think that's mainly due to the fact that he took on a second rebuilding job rather than stay the course at Wagner. Biggest concern for me is his offense. It is very similar to Willard's offense. Painful to watch and horribly inefficient.
Lonegan would be great. So would Hurley of course, although it's a bit early since he hasn't made an NCAA yet. Can't keep picking from the Iona tree. Mooney wouldn't be the end of the world either. Agree about not being able to touch Archie Miller. I still firmly like the idea of Ben Howland despite all the negatives thrown about on here.
Literally any coach available would be better than Willard, so any candidates we might look at have that in their corner too.
Literally any coach available would be better than Willard, so any candidates we might look at have that in their corner too.
That's what I'm wary of, Bud Boomer. The efficiency numbers don't paint a pretty picture. Defense? He appears to be outstanding in that regard.
Take a look at Bobby's offense over at Buffalo. Only two years so not a large sample size, but it's night and day compared with Danny's. That's interesting to me. More efficient and more up-tempo despite not shooting it all that well. Lots of offensive rebounds.
Danny's Rhode Island team made a major jump in defensive efficiency this year after being terrible in years past. Offensive efficiency has been pretty bad all years there for him.
Bobby's Buffalo offensive efficiency has been very good both years but the defensive efficiency numbers aren't that good.
Just curious, what if there were two head coaches on one team, if the brothers were cool with it and we paid them the same coach salary that would get them to us and took away one assistant postion, would that be illegal or against some ncaa policy.
Just thinking outside the box with some innovative ideas for the Hall, Danny leading the d, bobby leading the O.
Just thinking outside the box with some innovative ideas for the Hall, Danny leading the d, bobby leading the O.
One main problem with Willard is that he does not take charge and that he is not a leader. With 2 head coaches it gives them only half of the power. It can't work and should not even be considered. Not to mention we don't have $ for one head coach and you want to pay 2. They will not work for 1/2 price. Nice thinking outside the box but it just won't work.
Haha, thanks hall85. Not sure if it's as outrageous as you think it is but ok. I think maybe if hall fans stop thinking small maybe big things can happen. Pay each guy 800k with 2 asst getting 300k might work again if they were cool with it. Be the first team to do it, create a positive buzz and dominate nj recruiting.
This is not a knock on either Hurley or Cleuss but could we just once conduct a legitimate search and cast the widest net before we annoit anyone as our next coach.
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Not the same thing, but don't the Yankees have two hitting coaches this year? Thought I heard that. A lot of people question the value of hitting coaches in general, especially with a team full of veterans, but two?
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Not knocking thinking outside the box, but why would any HC want to be a "co" head coach, get half the $ and have half the power. Makes zero sense. Both Hurley brothers are on a path to become HC's at some top tier conference, whether it be BE or a BCS school. This isn't an 8 year old boys team where 2-3 guys share coaching duties.
Not going this route certainly isn't "thinking small". If anyone thought this had the remotest chance of working, don't you think some school with a ton of resources ($) would have done it?
Buffalo actually plays similar to Iona. Their MAC Championship game against Central Michigan (and Keno Davis) was entertaining. Lots of points scored and not much defense on either side. I'm okay with that. In the case of Seton Hall, the offense and the defense both stink. At least Bobby Hurley or Cluess would bring one of them to the table.
I really can't argue the Hurleys[even though I doubt Danny would return], but I will tout Bruiser Flint from Drexel, or Shaheen
Interesting. I wouldn't be at all disappointed with Bobby. This roster is kind of built for a coach that relentlessly pushes tempo and attacks the glass.
SPK, Danny has had 3 good years of defensive efficiency. Definitely took a big jump this year, but I'd take his numbers last year at URI and his last year at Wagner and consider them pretty good. Certainly better than what we have now. His offensive numbers do scare me.
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