Final 4 for sure! Final BE bottom 4 and a shot @ Final 4 worst power 5 team.

To those who saw Daw stinks, that’s an insult to the team. The entire team stinks. It’s a team sport!

mbraue said:

Something like 85 percent of the offense gone. And we head to Hofstra to play against a very good coach in Speedy Claxton on Wednesday.

Our former guard Jaquan Sanders, now at Hofstra, just lit up Iona for 24.

Can't win games with defense alone. Need some offense. Where is it coming from?

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Sanders is averaging 19 ppg,shooting 47% from 3 in 36 mpg.Think he made the right move?If he keeps this up we have every right to coitize Sha's management of him.Maybe we'll take him back next year for $1M+!!

JTSHU said:

And can we actually get 10 BE caliber players

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Let’s get 5 very good ones and develop the rest into good one

Other angle, yikes.

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How many BE players do you actually think are on this roster? Obviously not too many--

chickenbox said:

You're right. Sha will certainly leave the program because of this. He's also a bad coach. And the hall will drop down to the maac

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Cherry picking 2 out of 50 post game posts. Great

JTSHU said:

And can we actually get 10 BE caliber players

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Exactly. Even in the best of times. No

HallGuy23 said:

I’ve said from the time he was hired that Sha’s dream 10 man rotation doesn’t work in the Big East. You aren’t tiring people out. Talent and good matchups win here. Not hoping the other team gets tired cuz you put somebody out there who stinks at basketball just to run around

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And can we actually get 10 BE caliber players

SHUHoopsFan said:

Just curious what the proper reaction of a team who plays a scrimmage and then 2 regular season buy games and doesn’t hit 60 points one time? It’s one thing when you’ve seen dumb play but also flashes of great play where you say let’s all take a deep breath and there’s a lot of good signs too. Pretty sure that’s not us right now.

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You're right. Sha will certainly leave the program because of this. He's also a bad coach. And the hall will drop down to the maac

Reverse angle here...silly that defender at half court jumps past shu kid...but again basketball always need to know score, time, situation. If he speed dribbles to the left corner, time runs out

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Scoring here does not help win the game

That was the 1989/90 team. That team went 12-16. Sounds about right for this year. yeah they said over and over.

chickenbox said:

So this is the crazy overreaction thread, I see

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HallLine69 said:

Always had been. It has a tradition that requires it to be consistently neurotic.

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Just curious what the proper reaction of a team who plays a scrimmage and then 2 regular season buy games and doesn’t hit 60 points one time? It’s one thing when you’ve seen dumb play but also flashes of great play where you say let’s all take a deep breath and there’s a lot of good signs too. Pretty sure that’s not us right now.

It’s absolutely crazy to me that such highly thought of 2nd,3rd and 4th year players could look like they never played organized basketball before. I don’t want to hear about new environment or whatever else. It’s basketball, not rocket science. Something they’ve supposedly been playing for 15+ years.

Piratz said:

We’ve seen a lot of high turnover rate, low 3PT output over Sha’s coaching career here. We need to figure it out.

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To Gary's point above, I don't think there is anything to figure out. This is who they are. Nothing that has happened so far this season is a surprise. They are playing to expectations to a perfect T.

When we went through our preseason predictions, I said that this team could go 7-4 ooc and 7-13 in BigEast with the caveat that this team on paper is worse than that, but Sha will find a way to squeak out 14 wins. In hindsight, it may be too difficult for Sha to work his magic here. This team may just play to expectations.

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chickenbox said:

So this is the crazy overreaction thread, I see

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Always had been. It has a tradition that requires it to be consistently neurotic.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Gohall129 said:

Going to start referring to Sha as Coach Walz if this nightmare continues

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This is stupid. Setting aside politics, it isn’t even clever or funny.

HallLine69 said:

I’m all for giving them time. It’s very early obviously. But make no mistake, they have absolutely stunk so far. I expected something like this from Dual but not from Middleton.

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I don’t disagree with you. But it’s early and they are young, and my personal fandom is too never get too high or low on unproven commodities. Message boards are obviously different in many respects when it comes to that. It’s why I chuckled a bit at the “seton hall’s newest star” thread we had building off the Zags article about Jenkins. Looks like a solid player for sure, but let’s pump the brakes on the “star” stuff until it’s mid to late February and the kid has killed it for a few months.

Bluebirds_ said:

Dual is like if Jahari Longs skill was trapped inside of Kadary Richmond’s body.

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Yet when Jahari returns he will be a key piece off the bench on a team who is actually kicking the ass of teams they should.