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Observations from an 82-77 setback @ Butler

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Also, this help defense that Sha & Willard run works best with a rim protector, which we don’t have. It worked well in the non conference because the teams we played were not overly familiar with what we try to do or offensively challenged. That’s not the case in the Big East. Unless we adjust, we’re going to constantly get torched on the defensive end.
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I think the whole situation will get him booed. The fact that it’s St. John’s and Repole’s comments only make it more salacious. How ironic the rumored back issue/general soreness began with him hitting the floor in the blowout win over SJU lats year. Then the Creighton 3OT loss later that week and then Kadary checked himself out for 2 games at the last minute.

Richmond was an outstanding player for The Hall and it sucks the system generates this crap now but that’s what they wanted. Again, in 45 years of being a BE charter member we’ve had had a grand total of 12 players earn 1stTeam All-BE honors. He is one of them. He was a huge factor in getting us to the 2022 NCAA Tournament after Aiken went down, we were still in NCAAT contention in 2023 until he injured his back and missed the final 6 games. We all know about last year which in most years would’ve been another NCAAT season. So it sucks he’s going to get the reception he will, but that’s what this system generates now.
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Observations from an 82-77 setback @ Butler

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SPK145 said:
This is a good post but not one word about the defense, including Coleman's which got his butt glued to the bench?
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Sure we can talk about the defense.

And I agree, for all the progress Coleman has made into evolving as the go to guy on offense, he still has a long way to go on the defensive side of the floor. He doesn’t stop dribble penetration, he closes out late, and often finds himself late in rotations and gives up lazy reach in fouls as a result.

Under both Willard and Sha our three point defense has been suspect at times. I attribute the years we’ve struggled to not being able to stop dribble drive penetration. When the team had guys like Gordon and McKnight it set the tone up top. If it broke down you still had solid rim protectors on the backend. This team is really bad at stopping dribble penetration and then lacks any semblance of rim protection. Which allows the opposing team to get into the paint and catch us completely out of sorts rotating. Thus the large amount of open looks from three point range. Same story just a different game. Butler was hitting them in the first half and just cooled off in the second.
This constant defensive breakdown also leads to more fouls and trips to the free throw line. 28 attempts for Butler is a lot to overcome.
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SOBO1 said:
To make matters worse rumors started to swirl that he was transferring to St John’s long before the season ended.

I want all these kids to get as much money as possible and if St John’s was the highest bidder so be it. This is business. However, the manner in which this went down (i.e. committing to St. John’s before entering the portal) leaves an EXTREMELY sour taste in my mouth. Plus the comments he made in his exit interview really ticked me off.

I’m not mad at Kadary for going to Saint John’s (I would have to), I’m mad for the way he handled it. Couldn’t have been done in a worse way.
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The rumors that Willards was leaving were far more obvious.
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Observations from an 82-77 setback @ Butler

LeftCoastPirates
Another one of those Seton Hall games where you say to yourself what if.

What if…
  • They had Dylan Adae-Wusu
  • Coleman didn’t have an off night
  • They didn’t have to dig themselves out of another double digit hole
There were moments where you were inclined to shut it off out of frustration and then they tease you up until the final few possessions. Bottomline another opportunity against a team expected to finish in the bottom tier of the conference has passed the Pirates by.

Blue Tinted Glasses
  • Some players take longer to live up to their HS ranks than others. Scotty Middleton appears to be a player that might end up being a hit instead of a miss. Was perfect from the floor (4/4 all from 3) in route to 14 points. Need to find a way to get him more consistent shots. At least in the range of 8-10 a game. Also need to prioritize him as a player you hope to retain going forward.
  • The frosh continue to show promise. Felton chipped in with 6 points and had 3 assists, which surpasses his total season output (2) prior to the game. While Gus Yalden might not fill up the box score, it’s becoming abundantly clear that his impact on the game is measured in other ways. His energy is infectious, his ball screening is the best of our bigs, and he doesn’t give ground in the post.
  • Jenkins backed up his 17 against Providence with another 21 last night. The Pirates need options to put the ball in the basket and it appears Chauncey has rediscovered his early season confidence.
  • Aligbe, with another efficient 12 points on 5/7 from the floor. His foul trouble last night went a little under the radar. It’s his 3rd straight game in double figures, but was only able to stay on the floor for 15 minutes in this one.
Sour Grapes and Gripes
  • Talk about the wrong time for Coleman to have an off night. He is still only a sophomore, it was a road game, these things are going to happen. But it was apparent that Butler made it a priority to take the ball out of Coleman’s hands. I believe he went almost midway into the first half without attempting a FG. He and Sha are going to have to find ways to prepare and overcome this as other teams are going to look to neutralize Isaiah.
  • End game execution / coaching. Sha takes a hit here. Coleman was on the bench as the Pirates rallied. He inserted Coleman for Felton who had just hit a crucial 3. The results did not go in Sha’s favor. Coleman was a non factor on the potential game tying possession and then was part of the pick and roll breakdown that surrendered the bucket that put the Pirates back down 4.
  • Back to the aforementioned potential game typing possession. I understand why Jenkins has the ball and ultimately takes the shot. He was your best player offensively. But why not put Middleton or Coleman in the pick and roll action instead of Gus. Gus is not a threat to score there, allowing Screen to play drop coverage and force Jenkins to take a more difficult pull up jumper instead of attacking all the way to the rim. Middleton or Coleman could have also been open for a pick and pop scenario to take the lead. A strategy I prefer on the road after expending a lot of energy on a big comeback. Don’t like playing for OT there unless it’s an uncontested layup they are conceding. I want to try and take the lead late if I can.
  • Lastly, an opportunity for Dual to prove something with Dylan out. Yet another underwhelming 21 minutes of action to say the least. And I won’t even get into the lack of production from Okorofor.
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dehere23 said:
I know most believe it is completely different, and it fits the narrative folks on here like to create about our program operating on a higher moral ground than others. But we don't know, and I'm not so sure it's altogether that different. Pitino definitely cleaned house, but I don't believe he wanted to bring in literally an entire new team, especially when you look at some of the kids they brought in via the portal. It wasn't like that roster was littered with superstars. AJ Storr and David Jones left -- those guys were legit big time high major scorers. Posh is at worst a useful high major player. DAW had 3 years of BE experience under his belt and pretty decent numbers. Everyone here concludes Slick didn't want him to stick around a year, but it's just as possible he would have kept him but couldn't. And no one here cared one bit what the reasons were, because Sha wanted him.
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There’s no way the guys who were in the SJU program in the final days of Mike Anderson were going to be able to comply with Pitino, IMO. And if you’re Rick, which one of them was worth putting all that effort into and why? This is Free Agency man. The system goes both ways. You’re not stuck with making it work with them anymore.

Personally, I cannot see Rick coexisting with some of the names on this list, including DAW. DAW’s play style would drive Rick bonkers if he was anything more than the 7th or 8th man like he’s been here. Not to mention the off court stuff where SJU tried holding Anderson accountable.
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donnie_baseball
Burnsly said:
How about both? I’m pissed that the system sucks & Im also disappointed that Richmond went to St. John’s.
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You are correct; I guess I should have said that if you're one of these guys who thinks these players should go to the highest bidder, you don't get to complain about it when our guys leave simply for more cash.
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donnie_baseball said:
I don't; players "getting as much money as possible" has ruined college sports -- and we're only seeing the beginning of it. It's ironic that him going to St. John's is what's upsetting people -- not the system that made it possible.
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How about both? I’m pissed that the system sucks & Im also disappointed that Richmond went to St. John’s.
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