How can one explain the keynote speaker to the 1996 rnc and the husband who was perhaps the most conservative member of the house in the 90s voting for Harris? Are they both rinos?

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Rarely/barely gets in games. Did briefly tonight and did well enough to get to the podium:

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10 points in 11 min

HALL85 said:

Judging by the time stamp and nature of the post I’m going to guess alcohol was involved.

Maybe the question should be, what is wrong with our system and political leadership whereby Trump and Harris are the two candidates?

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We’re here because the cult members didn’t budge in their support of Trump while there were better, actual conservatives running and the Democrats wanted to avoid a primary so Harris would not be challenged.

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He was trying to make the case that Trump initiated inflation during the pandemic by cutting a deal with his “oil company cronies” and how he handled healthcare. Just google “NewsNation Town Hall Cuban” and there are several links available.

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Saw a clip, I’ll watch the rest at some point, but there is some truth to what he is saying. Inflation was going to be an issue no matter who won in 2020. It started to increase well before Biden came into office. Oil prices were a part of that and Trump did press Saudi’s to reduce production so prices would go up to help US oil companies.

Trump did handle the pandemic poorly. He did say if we stopped testing, we’d have few cases while sending Russia machines to help them test.

Yes, the answer might be easy, but those in power with money (politicians, MSM, wealthy that are using the system , etc.) continue to manipulate the masses.

We can debate his popularity, but IMO there is a large segment of the population that still see Trump as an outsider and a chance for the system to change. They see that group of stakeholders of the current system as not caring about them.

Until we address this, we will continue to have elections like this.

HALL85 said:

Judging by the time stamp and nature of the post I’m going to guess alcohol was involved.

Maybe the question should be, what is wrong with our system and political leadership whereby Trump and Harris are the two candidates?

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That's an easy enough answer - The tribalism of the 2 party system has eroded people's ability to think rationally and pushed both parties to extremes. It's no longer about working together to effectively govern the country, it's just about winning to satisfy a carnal desire for power. It's all vanity and ego feeding.

The most competent, rational people tend to lean more centrist in their views, but centrist views are "boring" so they don't excite the masses to get out and vote the way the extreme candidates do. These people also tend to be smart enough to realize they can make better/more comfortable/safe and out of the spotlight lives for themselves and their families in just about any line of work other than politics.

And then the last piece falls to media - once again, centrist views are boring. The extreme political views generate more clicks and media views, which makes the media companies more money so naturally they commit more time to these candidates, which pushes them and their views even further into the spotlight and causes their ideas to further dominate the conversation. They also tend to draw more emotional reactions from people which had further fed the vicious cycle that's gotten us to where we are now.

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Such as?

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He was trying to make the case that Trump initiated inflation during the pandemic by cutting a deal with his “oil company cronies” and how he handled healthcare. Just google “NewsNation Town Hall Cuban” and there are several links available.

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chickenbox said:

I know folks like to bicker back and forth here and all. And differ on matters of policy.

But I also know there are a lot of conservatives, republicans, and self-identified independents who presumably love the Constitution, representative democracy, and the rule of law. And surely none of them would vote for a demonstrated enemy of all those things. Because that would be debasing and shameful.

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Judging by the time stamp and nature of the post I’m going to guess alcohol was involved.

Maybe the question should be, what is wrong with our system and political leadership whereby Trump and Harris are the two candidates?

Fantastic gift. Thank you! They’re 2 reasons why the Class of ‘68 is GREAT.

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burtmanjack said:

Those regular season results are meaningless in context. Markedly different rosters, health, etc. then vs. October, for both teams.

All of the Mariners, Rays and Indians swept the Mets this year.

Does that mean they were better than the Mets overall? I certainly don't think so.

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We were talking about the Mets, Yankees and Dodgers. The Yankees played the Royals, Tigers and Cleveland. The Mets had to get past the Braves then played the Brewers and Phillies and took the Dodgers to six games.

HALL85 said:

Cuban was on NewsNation last night and his arguments against Trump were so factually incorrect it was laughable.

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Such as?

MichiganStoleTitle said:

Just to be clear: I understand the game was on the Fox Sports app in prior years. My question is simply do we have confirmation the same thing will be true this year. And it doesn’t sound like anyone knows the answer to that?

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i have the same question. The app does not currently provide the answer.

SPK145 said:

Ironic as he supports an unintelligent, weak woman.

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Cuban was on NewsNation last night and his arguments against Trump were so factually incorrect it was laughable.

SPK145 said:

Ironic as he supports an unintelligent, weak woman.

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To be fair, you can’t use that line against Kamala because everyone she surrounds herself with is more intelligent and stronger than she is. Sadly that incudes Biden

shu09 said:

I'm sure a few will hold up the certification on January 6. And guess who oversees that? Kamala Harris, as the sitting VP. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I can easily see the Democrats going down this road to get back at Trump and throw the process into chaos.

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Not a chance.
Dems are that stupid. The civil unrest that would cause would be crazy.

Trump, however, if he loses if doing to be claiming fraud was everywhere and doing his best to cause the unrest like he did last time.

Just to be clear: I understand the game was on the Fox Sports app in prior years. My question is simply do we have confirmation the same thing will be true this year. And it doesn’t sound like anyone knows the answer to that?