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Didn’t the FBI say crimes in places like NYC and LA aren’t in the numbers?

Yes. The reporting is changed and not all cities responded so they are not included in the FBI report, though they do still report it. Just need to look it up elsewhere if your curious about city by city... That said many cities were included are have been showing decreases. There will be some increases as well but overall crime is on a downward trend since 2020. Weather than decrease ends up at 15% or 5% once the data is no longer preliminary, it is still going to show a decrease. Not rising through the roof.

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A consistent criticism of Harris was her inability to speak extemporaneously. She acquitted herself reasonably well in the debate. it shows a capacity to improve which bodes well for her, and us, should she win
all of a sudden this point that was hammered to death has evaporated into "she memorized the entire hour long debate" . deflect on to the next talkikg point. we got guys turning off the debate after 15 mins because they simply cant come to terms with it.

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listen she's not going to be the best president if she wins. potentially a pretty bad one. but people here are allergic to giving any kind of credit.

1) As the debate went on people here said the moderators were setting it up for kamala. In reality it was catering much more towards trump.

2) guys like hall85/shuhoops simply can't come to terms that she had such a decisive victory in a debate. flabbergasted. have to discredit the "memorized speech" instead of calling it how it is. you know who memorized his speech? trump and his vocabulary of 3 words that he yells over and over and over
mesmerized

this might just be kamala derangement syndrome.

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Not really sure that’s true. She had rehearsed statements on topics and didn’t answer the question. Not sure how her unexplained opportunistic economy and the fact she grew up middle class answers the question are people better off now. It was just a rehearsed phrase.
Debates are structured events for the most part so memorization and rehearsal are inherent in the event. She did well in the debate.

I'm sure she is working on how to successfully answer questions in an unstructured atmosphere.

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A consistent criticism of Harris was her inability to speak extemporaneously. She acquitted herself reasonably well in the debate. it shows a capacity to improve which bodes well for her, and us, should she win
Not really sure that’s true. She had rehearsed statements on topics and didn’t answer the question. Not sure how her unexplained opportunistic economy and the fact she grew up middle class answers the question are people better off now. It was just a rehearsed phrase.

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he lies more. correct. fact check shouldn't be 5-0. Are you telling me nothing Kamala said was worthy of fact check? Sorry when you don't go after her misleading claims once, it's not a good look.


Post birth abortions, immigrants eating pets, crime being through the roof as it’s coming down were pretty ridiculous lies but you’re right that they skipped opportunities to correct Harris that they should have taken.

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i thought he was treated very fair. if not favored at times with how much they let him get in. think they wanted to avoid the whole "it was rigged" rhetoric.

they fact check trump because he lies more and says absurd things. its not that hard
he lies more. correct. fact check shouldn't be 5-0. Are you telling me nothing Kamala said was worthy of fact check? Sorry when you don't go after her misleading claims once, it's not a good look.
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This might be the reason she needs the second debate. 6 of 10 undecided voters going Trump's way after last night. Did people feel he was being treated unfair being fact checked and nothing Harris said was fact checked? His numbers increase every time the system seems to be against him. Did people walk out still clueless as to what she believes? Do people still think they were better 4-8 years ago than they do now?
i thought he was treated very fair. if not favored at times with how much they let him get in. think they wanted to avoid the whole "it was rigged" rhetoric.

they fact check trump because he lies more and says absurd things. its not that hard

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mediocre is a lot better than embarassing live speaker which what was advertised. sooo many posts ragging how she had no live speaking engagements for a reason. so many. thats put to bed for now.

the biggest knock is that she was able to outsmart the other candidate.
Everything she said was cliche and rehearsed lines. Go take questions every day and you're going to get a lot of unknown questions. The economy, border, abortion were known topics. Which topics caught you by surprise. Trump was not prepared at all, but nothing he did last night was something an undecided voter didn't know about him. There was nothing the democratic candidate offered that said this is why you vote for me as opposed to against him. I don't think that strategy wins in 2024 like it did in 2020 because she's in office now and doing nothing about the issues.

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She didn't answer 1 question. She didn't have a word salad. My opinion she was mediocre at best. Her opponent was better on the economy and then horrible. He couldn't even keep on message with his closing argument which started out why haven't you done anything in 3.5 years which was good, then he went off the rails. It's not like she was excellent and he was terrible. She didn't answer a question, but she didn't have to in order to be better than him. She won the debate, election is far from over.
mediocre is a lot better than embarassing live speaker which what was advertised. sooo many posts ragging how she had no live speaking engagements for a reason. so many. thats put to bed for now.

the biggest knock is that she was able to outsmart the other candidate.

i was actually excited trump was calm and starting off great about the economy. then 3 minutes in he looked up at the ceiling and the script was thrown out
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9/11 Thread

Waking up each year on this day, it is somber, gut-wrenching and leaves me with a pit in my stomach. Loss of family and friends that just got up that day to go to work. Being on the conference calls with the command center with a coordinated group of companies to initially get emergency supplies into the city. They had no idea what they were facing on that day and I remember someone on the call saying they may need 50,000 body bags (25,000 in each building)....the call went silent for what seemed like an eternity. Fortunately it was not the case, but that was just one example in the early hours.

The country did come together and that was the most uplifting thing that came out of that tragedy. The human kindness, the patriotism, families helping each other. There is a lesson in our history that should be reinforced and reflected upon.

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This might be the reason she needs the second debate. 6 of 10 undecided voters going Trump's way after last night. Did people feel he was being treated unfair being fact checked and nothing Harris said was fact checked? His numbers increase every time the system seems to be against him. Did people walk out still clueless as to what she believes? Do people still think they were better 4-8 years ago than they do now?

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Turned the debate off after 15 minutes and watched the Liberty v Wings WNBA game. I actually wasn't going to watch the first debate, but my wife was watching on her laptop (we had a power failure) and I could hear Biden disintegrating and asked her if looked as bad as it sounded....).

At least the first 15 minutes went as I thought which is why I dropped. Trump is Trump and this is like a repeat of every other debate going off on rants. Harris did a good job memorizing a bunch of stuff...no word salad, but neither inspires any confidence.

If leadership is your priority, neither one gets my vote. As for our national security, I don't think either gives me any sense of confidence and it should be a grave concern. I was at a meeting in Europe several weeks ago and one of the guest speakers was Chris Miller (Chip War). Interesting he said the greatest threat to the U.S. isn't South American countries that are pumping illegals; not Russia; and not Iran....It is China as they could shut down chip exports from Taiwan (TSMC) with a blockade. 95% of the advanced chips come from Taiwan and it would grind our economy to a halt. Not firing a single shot or detonating a bomb. Another speaker was General Michael Claesseon who is the Chief Deputy of Defense in Sweden (their Lloyd Austin). In his presentation he shared a comparison of the Chinese and U.S. navy over the past 50 years which should also be of concern.

I couldn't care less about who won that debate. We are in trouble either way.
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