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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

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SHUHoopsFan said:
Can’t say that they haven’t take anything away. Resources have been used on them, saturated the housing market, literally not paying taxes and you can come up with your own examples I’m sure. That and having a net benefit are two different things.
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They do pay taxes

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Study: Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes a Year

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Also have contributed billions to social security which they cannot access.

The “resources have been used on them” is a straw man. Those resources would either go to them or not. They are not taking anything away from anyone.
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Knights Lights Went Out in Georgia

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Stayed up late and watched the game . Davis is the some player for Notre Dame as he was at Seton Hall, that is a mid-major playing for a high major team . Many times he drove to the basket out of control. With a one point deficit in ot Davis left Williams alone in the corner where he made a 3 pointer . On the ensuing possession Davis committed a turnover .

Notre Dame had a freshman on the court committing fouls in ot when they were losing. With 10 seconds left Allocco( sp ) hit a 3 pointer to tie the game. Rutgers inbounded the ball and the freshman intentionally fouled Harper. Harper made 1 of two foul shots for the win .
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Surprising Reference

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What happened is such a shame and despicable but entirely on him. On the court, Powell was one of the most accomplished players we've ever had. The Hall has had a grand total of 3 Consensus First Team All-Americans. Rarified air.

Consensus First Team All-Americans
  • Bob Davies – 1942
  • Walter Dukes – 1953
  • Myles Powell – 2020
Consensus Second Team All-Americans
  • Terry Dehere – 1993
Consensus Third Team All-Americans
  • Nick Werkman – 1963
  • Dan Callandrillo – 1982
AP Honorable Mention All-Americans
  • Andre Barrett – 2004
  • Isaiah Whitehead – 2016
  • Ángel Delgado – 2017, 2018
  • Myles Powell – 2019
  • Sandro Mamukelashvili – 2021
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Seton Hall Pirates men's basketball - Wikipedia

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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

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Merge said:
Great example actually. We have a statute of limitations in NJ on breaking and entering of 5 years... so no, we would not go after a guy who broke into your house 10 years ago. We have a 1 year statute of limitations for misdemeanors, which is what crossing the border illegally is.

My view is that we can, and should do the same for illegal immigrants. A path going forward where if they are here today, they can get citizenship after a certain number of years if they meet certain criteria - working, no crime etc.
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I’m all for some kind of consistency. Whatever it is spread it across the board.

Merge said:
They haven't taken anything away from Americans. We exploit them for the cheap labor and every economic study on this shows they have been a net benefit to our economy overall.
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Can’t say that they haven’t take anything away. Resources have been used on them, saturated the housing market, literally not paying taxes and you can come up with your own examples I’m sure. That and having a net benefit are two different things.
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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

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SHallguy2 said:
Exactly right, best thing Trump can do is remove the criminals and create a path to citizenship for those living and working in USA for more than one year. It is the right thing to do plus would flip the tables politically to Republican side. Absolutely crazy to think we would remove everyone, it would cripple the economy. Give 15 million people citizenship and Dems can kiss the next few elections good bye.
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That could be his legacy. The issue will be that people here illegally will have to self report. It sounds easy but will most trust the system?
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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

SHallguy2
Merge said:
Great example actually. We have a statute of limitations in NJ on breaking and entering of 5 years... so no, we would not go after a guy who broke into your house 10 years ago. We have a 1 year statute of limitations for misdemeanors, which is what crossing the border illegally is.

My view is that we can, and should do the same for illegal immigrants. A path going forward where if they are here today, they can get citizenship after a certain number of years if they meet certain criteria - working, no crime etc.



They haven't taken anything away from Americans. We exploit them for the cheap labor and every economic study on this shows they have been a net benefit to our economy overall.
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Exactly right, best thing Trump can do is remove the criminals and create a path to citizenship for those living and working in USA for more than one year. It is the right thing to do plus would flip the tables politically to Republican side. Absolutely crazy to think we would remove everyone, it would cripple the economy. Give 15 million people citizenship and Dems can kiss the next few elections good bye.
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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

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SHUHoopsFan said:
The question is do we go after people who committed crimes a decade ago or not. I'm not really sure why breaking in the country a decade ago is any different than finding the guy who broke into your home a decade ago.
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Great example actually. We have a statute of limitations in NJ on breaking and entering of 5 years... so no, we would not go after a guy who broke into your house 10 years ago. We have a 1 year statute of limitations for misdemeanors, which is what crossing the border illegally is.

My view is that we can, and should do the same for illegal immigrants. A path going forward where if they are here today, they can get citizenship after a certain number of years if they meet certain criteria - working, no crime etc.

SHUHoopsFan said:
I'm sure in the first instance they're not people with bad intentions, but you have to think they haven't taken things away from Americans and added to the spending.
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They haven't taken anything away from Americans. We exploit them for the cheap labor and every economic study on this shows they have been a net benefit to our economy overall.
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Left Coast Pirates - Mid OOC Report

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jack 1970 said:
4-3 start is not the end of the world but is disappointing given the Fordham and Hofstra losses.I think we'd all feel better at 6-1.

I'm most concerned about our offense averaging 58 ppg.We need to get this to 70 ppg to have a post season tournament like season.Unfortunately,I don't see where that additional 12 ppg is going to come from.
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We can't play at the pace required to score 70 points a game. Yes, our offense needs to (and should) improve but we need to play in the 60s.
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Trump Laying Down The Law On Border

SHUHoopsFan
Merge said:
Yes, people do need to come in the right way.

That doesn’t mean we have to kick those who have been here for many years out.

I don’t think we need to grant automatic citizenship to everyone here, but a path of they have been here with no criminal offenses for a certain number of years and have shown they are able to be productive members of society.

Do you honestly believe that if someone has been here for 10-20 years, has been working, had kids etc should be kicked out?

Again, I don’t know what we will actually do. I just hope we approach the issue seriously to make the border more secure, we deport those who committed primal offense, and we show humanity towards those who are here with nothing to go back to.
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The question is do we go after people who committed crimes a decade ago or not. I'm not really sure why breaking in the country a decade ago is any different than finding the guy who broke into your home a decade ago. I'm sure in the first instance they're not people with bad intentions, but you have to think they haven't taken things away from Americans and added to the spending.
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Left Coast Pirates - Mid OOC Report

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LeftCoastPirates said:
lol. Normally I am looking for some color commentator who doesn’t cover our program to make some lazy comment about our program.

But not pronouncing players names correctly is a big pet peeve of mine. Especially from individuals who you would expect to know them at this point.

I mean Mamu wasn’t some rotation player, he was 1st team All-Big East and the face of our team his senior year. It’s unacceptable, if you cover the team, that you can’t say his name correctly after 7+ years.
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If the program gave out a sheet with phonetic spellings of the names, at least read it.
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