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3 strikes for Biden He Should Be Out

Oil companies have plenty of land available to use. They do not need new leases. A moratorium on leases will not impact jobs. If oil companies want to produce more, they will by using some of the millions of acres that are available to them and unused.

In any case, like I said. US oil production has increase by 17.5% since last August.
Could have been 34% but yes up 17.5%. Silly disagreement. You believe the Middle East can do it better with less pollution while I believe we can regulate and control it better in our own country. Whether you get it here or there makes a difference in more ways than one in my opinion. Snopes does a good job fact checking as well on changes Biden made when he got into office.
 
Could have been 34% but yes up 17.5%. Silly disagreement. You believe the Middle East can do it better with less pollution while I believe we can regulate and control it better in our own country. Whether you get it here or there makes a difference in more ways than one in my opinion. Snopes does a good job fact checking as well on changes Biden made when he got into office.

Several different discussions going on there. New leases wouldn't have increased production at all now. They would just hold the leases for future use. It's politics. Plenty of area for oil exploration is available now.

The amount we import has been decreasing since 2007. That's a good thing. While we need to use oil, we should import as little as possible. Again, keystone would have also been imports.

My view is that we should reduce our consumption of oil and transition away from using it as much as we can. Regardless of my opinion on climate change, it's hard to understand why people are so supportive of the air and water pollution alone, and potential for spills.
 
To amplify the point, U.S. oil production is at near historic high levels.

That is simply incorrect.

No, it is not incorrect.

We are producing more than 11 million barrels of oil per day. That is down from a peak of more than 13 million early in 2020 before the pandemic pushed oil production down drastically.

The US only reached the 11 million barrel per day mark for the first time three years ago. For most of the period of the attached graph it was significantly below that. During the Bush Jr. administration it was not much more than a third of what it is today.

 
Exactly! Trump isn’t that stupid!
Perhaps you didn't read my response to this post. This is the wrong guy. Trump had Pakistan release Mullah Baradar who is the guy standing next to Pompeo in the picture I posted earlier. This is the leader of the Taliban. Not the guy mentioned in that confusing article by the Post.
 
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Perhaps you didn't read my response to this post. This is the wrong guy. Trump had Pakistan release Mullah Baradar who is the guy standing next to Pompeo in the picture I posted earlier. This is the leader of the Taliban. Not the guy mentioned in that confusing article by the Post.
Both released dangerous individuals and we the people are too stupid as we hold only the ones opposite our own political leanings responsible. We the people also includes the asshat congressmen/women who do exactly the same thing.
 
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Both released dangerous individuals and we the people are too stupid as we hold only the ones opposite our own political leanings responsible. We the people also includes the asshat congressmen/women who do exactly the same thing.
I’m not a fan of releasing Terrorists. But these two are not equivalent. Obama released 5 Taliban members for a prisoner exchange for an American who later it was discovered did not warrant it. But Trump released 5000 of which one is the leader of the Taliban and negotiated the deal.

Btw, u can acknowledge that you made an error. It’s ok. It won’t kill u.
 
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I’m not a fan of releasing Terrorists. But these two are not equivalent. Obama released 5 Taliban members for a prisoner exchange for an American who later it was discovered did not warrant it. But Trump released 5000 of which one is the leader of the Taliban and negotiated the deal.

Btw, u can acknowledge that you made an error. It’s ok. It won’t kill u.
No mistake there, Mr. Bora Bora. The guy Obama released was the lead orchestrator of last week's embarrassment of the U.S.

Since you're talking numbers, try these:

Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Bush = 564
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Obama = 1,729
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 4 years under Trump = 63

But orange man bad, Obama good. Both sucked with Afghanistan policy but I like less U.S. death. That's why Biden was right to withdraw, it was just poorly planned and executed.
 
No mistake there, Mr. Bora Bora. The guy Obama released was the lead orchestrator of last week's embarrassment of the U.S.

Since you're talking numbers, try these:

Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Bush = 564
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Obama = 1,729
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 4 years under Trump = 63

But orange man bad, Obama good. Both sucked with Afghanistan policy but I like less U.S. death. That's why Biden was right to withdraw, it was just poorly planned and executed.
You responded to my post saying I was wrong. That Trump released the guy who is the leader of the Taliban. Not some guy who has title but the leader of the Taliban himself. Indeed, you were the one wrong. I even gave you the out by saying it is hard to tell them apart. But you had to double down. Be man enough to acknowledge it.

I acknowledged my mistake of one letter. of saying Bora Bora instead of Tora Bora right away without prompting You just can’t acknowledge yours? A character weakness for sure. Then you try to change the issue is a lame debate strategy.

Btw, any person endorsed by the Taliban for President is indeed bad and that is the orange man. Hmm, endorsed by the Taliban, Putin and Kim Jon un. Quite a trio there.
 
You responded to my post saying I was wrong. That Trump released the guy who is the leader of the Taliban. Not some guy who has title but the leader of the Taliban himself. Indeed, you were the one wrong. I even gave you the out by saying it is hard to tell them apart. But you had to double down. Be man enough to acknowledge it.

I acknowledged my mistake of one letter. of saying Bora Bora instead of Tora Bora right away without prompting You just can’t acknowledge yours? A character weakness for sure. Then you try to change the issue is a lame debate strategy.

Btw, any person endorsed by the Taliban for President is indeed bad and that is the orange man. Hmm, endorsed by the Taliban, Putin and Kim Jon un. Quite a trio there.
OK, I was wrong, it wasn’t the leader but the architect of last week’s debacle. You still haven’t acknowledged that. So that’s a character weakness compared to you, LOL?

What is a character weakness is saying you acknowledged your mistake without prompting. You only did it when shu09 pointed it out, liar. Not surprised, you’re a government employee.


And then there’s this:

 
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Again, keystone would have also been imports.

True, but I would prefer to be beholden to Canada than the Middle East. Our dependency on Mid East oil has corrupted our Mid East Policy for decades as no administration wants to see Gas issues that we had under Carter repeat itself. We finally got to a point where we were free of being dependent on them and Biden wants to go back to the same failed Mid East policies that he is used to.
 
No mistake there, Mr. Bora Bora. The guy Obama released was the lead orchestrator of last week's embarrassment of the U.S.

Since you're talking numbers, try these:

Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Bush = 564
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 8 years under Obama = 1,729
Afghanistan U.S. fatalities in 4 years under Trump = 63

But orange man bad, Obama good. Both sucked with Afghanistan policy but I like less U.S. death. That's why Biden was right to withdraw, it was just poorly planned and executed.
Salt pepper ketchup got it right
 
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True, but I would prefer to be beholden to Canada than the Middle East. Our dependency on Mid East oil has corrupted our Mid East Policy for decades as no administration wants to see Gas issues that we had under Carter repeat itself. We finally got to a point where we were free of being dependent on them and Biden wants to go back to the same failed Mid East policies that he is used to.
Nice analysis IMO
Even if not correct whatever that means
 
OK, I was wrong, it wasn’t the leader but the architect of last week’s debacle. You still haven’t acknowledged that. So that’s a character weakness compared to you, LOL?

What is a character weakness is saying you acknowledged your mistake without prompting. You only did it when shu09 pointed it out, liar. Not surprised, you’re a government employee.


And then there’s this:

How gracious! I post a picture with Pompeo and a guy Who will now be the President of the Taliban and say he was released by Trump. You said Wrong guy Obama released him. And you still are are trying to justify it. Lol.

I didn’t need anyone to say admit I was wrong. As soon as Shu09 posted it, I acknowledged it. Unlike you who loves to point out everyone who is wrong but can’t ever acknowledge when you are. Perhaps except for your half assed way right now.

Are you calling me a government worker supposed to hurt my feelings or be an insult? I wonder why you bring up professions? You feel better about yourself now? Lol.
 
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11.4 < 16

True and 11.4 > 9.7 right?

When the market recovered last year and the DJIA jumped from 19,000 to 27,000 - You wouldn't have said that the market IS declining because it hadn't surpassed it's prior peak, right?
 
I’m not a fan of releasing Terrorists. But these two are not equivalent. Obama released 5 Taliban members for a prisoner exchange for an American who later it was discovered did not warrant it. But Trump released 5000 of which one is the leader of the Taliban and negotiated the deal.

Btw, u can acknowledge that you made an error. It’s ok. It won’t kill u.
Not a fan of releasing terrorists either, and plenty of blame to go around to our last few Presidents on their handling of this.

But another 5,000-7,000 just got released due to our botched handling of our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 
Not a fan of releasing terrorists either, and plenty of blame to go around to our last few Presidents on their handling of this.

But another 5,000-7,000 just got released due to our botched handling of our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

If you were in favor of the Afghanistan withdrawal, this was inevitable. You can only complain about these freed jailed Taliban members if you wanted the US to stay there. I have never been in favor of the withdrawal.
 
If you were in favor of the Afghanistan withdrawal, this was inevitable. You can only complain about these freed jailed Taliban members if you wanted the US to stay there. I have never been in favor of the withdrawal.
What I find really intriguing, did the US intelligence and/or military not realize that the Afghan army and government would just give up without a fight?

If we knew they would have folded like a cheap tent, we should have come up with a different plan, maybe still withdrawal but handled differently.

If we didn't know, then that is really scary.
 
What I find really intriguing, did the US intelligence and/or military not realize that the Afghan army and government would just give up without a fight?

If we knew they would have folded like a cheap tent, we should have come up with a different plan, maybe still withdrawal but handled differently.

If we didn't know, then that is really scary.
Most of these Afghan soldiers saw soldiering as a job. They got paid well, they got clothing, meals, and a gun. Basics that most of them normally had no chance of getting. It should be no surprise when push came to shove (immediate threat of death) they laud down and folded immediately. I would be shocked if military leadership didn’t know that.
 
If you were in favor of the Afghanistan withdrawal, this was inevitable. You can only complain about these freed jailed Taliban members if you wanted the US to stay there. I have never been in favor of the withdrawal.
What changed?

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I do not think there needs to be higher taxes on all Americans. It is just taxing those that have benefited the most. Obviously we will not agree about that issue. However, I do agree with you that federal spending must be much lower. Starting with getting out of Iraq and now Afghanistan and less military spending.
 
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Biden has turned to outright lies to cover his ass.No foreign leaders have criticized what he did.when several have.He can’t have military escort Americans by checkpoints ,but UK military is doing just that.I couldn’t change the deal Trump made although I changed numerous of Trump policies and I changed the May 1 withdrawal date Thus guy is a weak old man and any foreign leader that didn’t know that surely knows that now.As Secretary Gates said Joe has been on wrong side of any major foreign policy issue in the last 40 years ,and remember Obama thought Gates was a great Sec of Defense so he kept him on.I await the defend Biden at all costs left crowd to object.
 
The premise that he should be out is silly.

Biden's mental faculties are clearly compromised. Anyone watching today's press briefing can see that. Heads are in the sand if you think otherwise.

Afghanistan is bordering on dereliction. Unconscionable that he is letting Americans fend for themselves.

Lucky for him, the Dems have control of Congress. Not so lucky for the country.

The "anything but Trump" solution is not working out so well.
 

it decreased in 2020 because of a global pandemic, and is on its way back up.


Just not correct to characterize it as currently declining. It’s clearly not.
 
What changed?

cernjSHU

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I do not think there needs to be higher taxes on all Americans. It is just taxing those that have benefited the most. Obviously we will not agree about that issue. However, I do agree with you that federal spending must be much lower. Starting with getting out of Iraq and now Afghanistan and less military spending.
A post from 2012? Lol. Let’s see that post was within a after the US killed Osama Bin Laden. The President of Afghanistan called for the US forces to withdraw. Looked at that time that Afghanistan was ready to be it’s own country from the news.

Obama starts to withdraw. However, it was clear that the Afghan forces were not capable to hold off the Taliban as they began to step up the fight. Once it was clear without the US being there, Taliban was a threat to take over. That’s the change. You can’t let it fall to a terrorist group that was a partner of Al Qaeda. I will never forget 9-11. That threat hasn’t stopped.

That’s the context. Hope that helps. As you can see as far back as 2017, I was stating that we need to be there and there may never an end to our presence there.
 
A post from 2012? Lol. Let’s see that post was within a after the US killed Osama Bin Laden. The President of Afghanistan called for the US forces to withdraw. Looked at that time that Afghanistan was ready to be it’s own country from the news.

Obama starts to withdraw. However, it was clear that the Afghan forces were not capable to hold off the Taliban as they began to step up the fight. Once it was clear without the US being there, Taliban was a threat to take over. That’s the change. You can’t let it fall to a terrorist group that was a partner of Al Qaeda. I will never forget 9-11. That threat hasn’t stopped.

That’s the context. Hope that helps. As you can see as far back as 2017, I was stating that we need to be there and there may never an end to our presence there.
So you clearly lied that you have never been for withdrawal. More lying, that's a pattern with you, a severe character weakness.
 
So you clearly lied that you have never been for withdrawal. More lying, that's a pattern with you, a severe character weakness.
Nope. Wrong with your lame attempt at gotchaism. It is consistent with never been for withdrawal if the us military is needed to keep it from the Taliban. I am obviously in favor of having troops come home if not needed.

You weren’t attacked in 9-11. You have never been part of the fight against terrorism. So, When you have been part of it, perhaps u can comment on it. Otherwise, you can crawl back under ur rock
 
You weren’t attacked in 9-11. You have never been part of the fight against terrorism. So, When you have been part of it, perhaps u can comment on it. Otherwise, you can crawl back under ur rock
I can’t even respond to such a delusional post.

I’ve been told by several friends that you’re a good guy and very good at what you do. I’ll choose to leave with that.
 
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I can’t even respond to such a delusional post.

I’ve been told by several friends that you’re a good guy and very good at what you do. I’ll choose to leave with that.
Lol. Whats delusional? Am I wrong that you were not at the World Trade Center during 9-11? Am I wrong that you did not fight against terrorism? If you did something, then forgive my ignorance of your actions.

I may be good with what I do but I’m just a government worker, right?

Listen, I don’t get offended. I enjoy the back and forth. But, when we talk about terrorism, this is something that strikes very close to me.
 
I was in World Trade Center 2 during the bombing. That is where my office was at that time. So what do you call it ?
I call it delusions of grandeur. You personally were not attacked, America was. Nobody sat in a dark cave saying “We gotta get this guy cernjSHU.”
 
I call it delusions of grandeur. You personally were not attacked, America was. Nobody sat in a dark cave saying “We gotta get this guy cernjSHU.”
wow. what an asshole. the american PEOPLE were attacked. the american PEOPLE died. not america.

nobody sat in a dark cave and said we gotta get _anyone who died_

do you know cern personally?
 
I call it delusions of grandeur. You personally were not attacked, America was. Nobody sat in a dark cave saying “We gotta get this guy cernjSHU.”
Wow! I think you went overboard on this. I think you got caught up in the debate and posted something that you don’t really mean.

Most if not all terrorists have no idea personally who they are attacking. Surely, you would not tell the family of a person who was killed during 9/11 that their loved one wasn’t attacked. It was only America.

We will give you a mulligan on that post.
 
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