A major issue is that the entire region is a Pro Sports Market. Way too much competition. NY itself does not have a huge SHU alumni base. People are not talking Rutgers neither on this side of the Hudson. The Hall needs a reset and infusion of talent including a star player.. Love to see a Very Good SHU team take on a Powerhouse SJU team at The Rock and MSG twice a year! That would create an amazing amount of interest.
A blown chance
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On the Nets, I remember wondering if the narrative would change at all when they had the big 3 of Durant, Harden and Kyrie. I remember the J-Kidd years, and even though the Nets were going to finals and the Knicks were an absolute mess, the casual NY/NJ sports fan didn't seem to care one bit. The Knicks were still the Knicks for all their problems.
Because the NBA is a star-driven league, and with the move to Brooklyn, I thought maybe, just maybe the Nets would eat into the Knicks and alter the dynamic (however slight) by having 3 of big stars in the league in their respective primes, especially Durant and Kyrie who were insanely popular with kids.
And yet it didn't matter at all.
Yup. Pro sports is king and as Left pointed out, there are definite tiers. Been that way my whole life. Yanks/Mets, Giants/Jets and Knicks live on a different planet. I'm not a hockey guy, but people tell me the Rangers have some of that too. Whereas the Nets, Devils and Islanders are always levels below from an interest and fandom perspective. To be fair, I never thought SJU would be able to capture NY again like they did this year, but a big part of that is the Pitino factor. That plus winning all those games is why they were selling out the Garden and dominating coverage, which ain't easy to do for a college team in this market.
The Devils and Islanders will never make ito the top of the winter sports nyc scene.
Too many championships.
Too many championships.
Like us, the Nets, Devils and Islanders are basically suburban stepchildren. And that's with the Nets and Islanders playing within the five boroughs.
The Nets would never have reached Knicks status but it would have been interesting if the Durant/Kyrie/Harden trio could have lasted long enough to win a title or make a couple of deep runs.
Not true at all...fraschilla recruiting talent just had bad incident with admin and then unm entered the picture. It was fraschilla roster with great jarvis tactics and 6 very talented guys that got very close to a final four. Jarvis was a very matter of fact type to the media that didnt really play well. Brought in some outstanding juco talent like bootsy thorton and marcus hatten....unfortunately things went sideways eventually ending with the the mid dec firing in 2003. They had won the NIT the prior season. They stubbed their toe 2000 2nd round after a great big east run.
As an actual hockey guy, that used to be the case with the Rangers and Devils, until the 90s and 2000s. The Devils now stand well on their own and don't get overrun in their own building when NYR come into town. They also had the back page of all the big NY newspapers when they were winning championships. It has been 22 years, though, and the Islanders lost most, if not all, of that mojo after winning 4 Cups in a row in the late 70s/early 80s.
Fran had it going. Was shocked he left when he did. I might have known why he did when it happened but I dont remember and no longer care lol
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The move to the prudential center and Nets leaving were milestone moments and gave the Devils a greater identity.
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