A review: Seton Hall overall athletic performance in 24/25

[lloyde dobler]

And it’s not good:

Fall season:

MSOC: 11-6-1 overall, 4-3-1 Big East (4th in East Division)
WSOC: 4-12-3, 1-7-2, 11th place of 11
WVB: 12-17, 6-12, 8th placeof 11
MCC: 8th place of 9 at Big East meet
WCC: 9th place of 11 at Big East meet

Winter season:

MB: 7-25, 2-18, 11th place of 11
WB: 23-10, 13-5, 2d place of 11
MS/D: 2nd place of 5 at Big East meet
WS/D: 5th place of 7 at Big East meet

Spring season:

Baseball: 24-30, 10-11, 5th place of 8
Softball: 29-23, 11-13, 7th place of 9
Men’s golf: 9th place of 10 at Big East tournament
Women’s golf: 4th place of 6 at Big East
WTEN: Seeded 9th of 11 at Big East, went 1-1

 

[CT Pirate]

As the Big Tuna famously uttered, "you are what your record says you are." At least we're consistent, like consistently bad across the majority of all sports. We're the team everyone circles as an easy "W" when the schedule gets released. The sad part is there never seems to be any accountability. Feels like losing is accepted and in many cases tolerated.

 

[SHUHitman]

Were there key departures in women's softball? I thought we rolled back most of our core of top players? I know winning the BET is about catching lightning in a bottle at the right time, but would have thought their results would have been better than that.

 

[mga pirate]

And it’s not good:

Fall season:

MSOC: 11-6-1 overall, 4-3-1 Big East (4th in East Division)
WSOC: 4-12-3, 1-7-2, 11th place of 11
WVB: 12-17, 6-12, 8th placeof 11
MCC: 8th place of 9 at Big East meet
WCC: 9th place 11 at Big East meet

Winter season:

MB: 7-25, 2-18, 11th place of 11
WB: 23-10, 13-5, 2d place of 11
MS/D: 2nd place of 5 at Big East meet
WS/D: 5th place of 7 at Big East meet

Spring season:

Baseball: 24-30, 10-11, 5th place of 8
Softball: 29-23, 11-13, 7th place of 9
Men’s golf: 9th place of 10 at Big East tournament
Women’s golf: 4th place of 6 at Big East
WTEN: Seeded 9th of 11 at Big East, went 1-1

Good thing we have a great athletic director that gets it.

 

[williaza01]

Not to pile on either but the MSD, while cool, if you did a deep dive is pretty weak too

 

[lloyde dobler]

Good thing we have a great athletic director that gets it.

“Seton Hall University remains committed to competing for BIG EAST and national championships.”

Bryan Felt, email to the fan base, 1/13/2025

 

[silkcitypirate]

Lost to Providence in a tie breaker for 6th place and last spot for the big east tourney.

 

[SHU_Pirate1]

“Seton Hall University remains committed to competing for BIG EAST and national championships.”

Bryan Felt, email to the fan base, 1/13/2025

That big lie is right up there with the check is in the mail and I promise I won't...well you know 🫢

 

[SHU_Pirate1]

As the Big Tuna famously uttered, "you are what your record says you are." At least we're consistent, like consistently bad across the majority of all sports. We're the team everyone circles as an easy "W" when the schedule gets released. The sad part is there never seems to be any accountability. Feels like losing is accepted and in many cases tolerated.

You nailed it. NO accountability! How this program was allowed to fail so terribly is disgraceful and the fact that nothing was done to stop the bleeding is inexcusable. And we get psychobabble nonsense like the Felt email mentioned above and are supposed to read that with a straight face. My emotions for this program have turned from love, passion and hope, to disappointment, to waning interest and apathy, and now anger on how this was allowed to happen. Sort of a twisted phases of grief for something that feels like it's died.

 

[mga pirate]

You nailed it. NO accountability! How this program was allowed to fail so terribly is disgraceful and the fact that nothing was done to stop the bleeding is inexcusable. And we get psychobabble nonsense like the Felt email mentioned above and are supposed to read that with a straight face. My emotions for this program have turned from love, passion and hope, to disappointment, to waning interest and apathy, and now anger on how this was allowed to happen. Sort of a twisted phases of grief for something that feels like it's died.

But he's such a nice guy, kisses all the babies and bleeds pirate blue cause he's an alumni. Dude was AD at lowest of low and was given the keys after doing what for ST Pete's? Hiring Holloway?

 

[HallLine69]

“Seton Hall University remains committed to competing for BIG EAST and national championships.”

Bryan Felt, email to the fan base, 1/13/2025

Utter horses**t statement. Insulting to our intelligence. Felt plays us for complete fools.

 

[Hall Is Life]

The job security at Seton Hall is absurd.

 

[HallGuy23]

And people still think we need to hemorrhage more and more money to remain a “power” conference school.

It’s been this way for years. Overall not competitive. The investment does not bring a return. That’s why there’s job security, that’s why there’s minimal interaction. Putting in a significantly higher amount of strategy and effort would not be worth it.

Time to drop a level and end the charade. Maybe we’ll be the first but we absolutely won’t be the last. The time is coming.

 

[Burnsly]

The investment does not bring a return. That’s why there’s job security, that’s why there’s minimal interaction.

Kind of a peculiar take.

 

[PJVegas]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes. As a group they represent themselves and the school very well against their more formidable competition.
It’s the major sports, loaded with scholarship athletes and NIL pros, that represent Their own interests, that are a total disappoint. Time to move on.

 

[SPK145]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes.

I don't think this is true.

 

[seton1996]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes. As a group they represent themselves and the school very well against their more formidable competition.
It’s the major sports, loaded with scholarship athletes and NIL pros, that represent Their own interests, that are a total disappoint. Time to move on.

All are sports are scholarship sports. All players on team would not be getting full scholarships like in basketball, so a softball player may get a quarter or half scholarship, but this is common across all D1 programs. For example, I believe softball allows something like 12 total scholarships per team, how they distribute them to athletes is up to each school.

 

[williaza01]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes. As a group they represent themselves and the school very well against their more formidable competition.
It’s the major sports, loaded with scholarship athletes and NIL pros, that represent Their own interests, that are a total disappoint. Time to move on.

Pretty positive this isn’t just wrong it’s the complete opposite actually

Not the representation of school part

But we offer some sports as funded programs against most of our league who is unfunded which makes this worse

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes. As a group they represent themselves and the school very well against their more formidable competition.
It’s the major sports, loaded with scholarship athletes and NIL pros, that represent Their own interests, that are a total disappoint. Time to move on.

Not true at all.

 

[General_Tso]

FWIW, I believe some of the sports mentioned have no scholarship athletes. As a group they represent themselves and the school very well against their more formidable competition.
It’s the major sports, loaded with scholarship athletes and NIL pros, that represent Their own interests, that are a total disappoint. Time to move on.

More false excuses!!!

 

[PJVegas]

X-country has athletic scholarships? Academic to qualified students is different than athletic. Didn’t think they did since that’s a sport used to get ready for indoor & outdoor track. ‘64-‘68, basically all track runners ran X-country to stay in shape. (Was a 1:56 half miler & 9:13 2 miler in ‘64 in HS & ran x-country). Those SH teams were loaded with sprinters & middle distance runners and maybe enough distance runners to make it a legit team.
Without track teams, no D-1 middle distance or distant runners would think of coming to SH. The results each year shows SH does respectable in meets vs very low level schools, but gets destroyed in major meets. If SH gives athletic scholarships, then I apologize. If it doesn’t, then that’s the reason for the poor results.

 

[General_Tso]

X-country has athletic scholarships? Academic to qualified students is different than athletic. Didn’t think they did since that’s a sport used to get ready for indoor & outdoor track. ‘64-‘68, basically all track runners ran X-country to stay in shape. (Was a 1:56 half miler & 9:13 2 miler in ‘64 in HS & ran x-country). Those SH teams were loaded with sprinters & middle distance runners and maybe enough distance runners to make it a legit team.
Without track teams, no D-1 middle distance or distant runners would think of coming to SH. The results each year shows SH does respectable in meets vs very low level schools, but gets destroyed in major meets. If SH gives athletic scholarships, then I apologize. If it doesn’t, then that’s the reason for the poor results.

Yes, all of our Athletic Programs offer ATHLETIC Scholarships. The whole team might not be on a full scholarship.

 

[williaza01]

X-country has athletic scholarships? Academic to qualified students is different than athletic. Didn’t think they did since that’s a sport used to get ready for indoor & outdoor track. ‘64-‘68, basically all track runners ran X-country to stay in shape. (Was a 1:56 half miler & 9:13 2 miler in ‘64 in HS & ran x-country). Those SH teams were loaded with sprinters & middle distance runners and maybe enough distance runners to make it a legit team.
Without track teams, no D-1 middle distance or distant runners would think of coming to SH. The results each year shows SH does respectable in meets vs very low level schools, but gets destroyed in major meets. If SH gives athletic scholarships, then I apologize. If it doesn’t, then that’s the reason for the poor results.

Yes and again we are actually funded in a few programs where most/all our opponents are not

Which makes these worse

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

X-country has athletic scholarships? Academic to qualified students is different than athletic. Didn’t think they did since that’s a sport used to get ready for indoor & outdoor track. ‘64-‘68, basically all track runners ran X-country to stay in shape. (Was a 1:56 half miler & 9:13 2 miler in ‘64 in HS & ran x-country). Those SH teams were loaded with sprinters & middle distance runners and maybe enough distance runners to make it a legit team.
Without track teams, no D-1 middle distance or distant runners would think of coming to SH. The results each year shows SH does respectable in meets vs very low level schools, but gets destroyed in major meets. If SH gives athletic scholarships, then I apologize. If it doesn’t, then that’s the reason for the poor results.

Dropping our indoor and outdoor track and field programs was a major mistake.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

“Seton Hall University remains committed to competing for BIG EAST and national championships.”

Bryan Felt, email to the fan base, 1/13/2025

Sadly Felt doesn’t seem committed to competing for BIG EAST and national championships. He’s only committed to telling us what he knows we want to hear.

 

[STLPirate12]

Dropping our indoor and outdoor track and field programs was a major mistake.

Was it? Seems we don't even have enough money to properly fund the sports we do have. I can't imagine spreading the little we have even thinner between more non-revenue sports would improve anything.

 

[radecicco]

At the time our track programs were dropped, it was reported that they cost around $1million per year. Just couldn’t afford that level of cost. Very unfortunate because those programs had many national accomplishments and left a legacy.