ACC - Big East Merger?
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Non football schools are slowly, but surely, being eliminated from the “major” scene. Thank you NIL.
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Not a crazy idea.Big East is going to struggle on its own and ACC may do the same.
I don't see a 28 mega conference working for basketball.
What might be more likely -- although again this is throwing darts -- is a bunch of the football schools in the ACC join some league with Uconn (with football) and a selected group of other Big East teams that don't play football but which the ACC wants for basketball and other sports. And what happens to the "leftovers" in that scenario.
What might be more likely -- although again this is throwing darts -- is a bunch of the football schools in the ACC join some league with Uconn (with football) and a selected group of other Big East teams that don't play football but which the ACC wants for basketball and other sports. And what happens to the "leftovers" in that scenario.
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If anything, I'd look to expand the BE a bit with likeminded schools if it helps the financial wherewithal, but ultimately unless we get some guardrails and - at the very least - a method to retain players which is critical to success for lesser NIL institutions - we're a feeder program.
If anything, I'd look to expand the BE a bit with likeminded schools if it helps the financial wherewithal, but ultimately unless we get some guardrails and - at the very least - a method to retain players which is critical to success for lesser NIL institutions - we're a feeder program.
Another path for getting UCONN into the ACC. Then two divisions: Big East and ACC. Play each other in what had been out-of-conference schedule. For us fewer games v. NJIT and Caldwell.
Oh, for us at least, if it's full membership, it's the best of all reasonably possible worlds.
1) We get keep our existing relationships with Big East teams that we love playing;
2) We get to reunite with our wayward Big East brothers with whom we had good rivalries going back in the day;
3) We get more games against schools that value basketball like UNC and Duke;
4) We get bowl the bowl affiliations and easier scheduling of being in a P4 conference; and
5) P4 money, which in the ACC, though much much less than the P2 make, is significantly more than we currently make in the Big East.
That said, I'll believe it when the papers are signed. It makes some sense because the ACC has become the most vulnerable of the P4, so that may open up their willingness to merge. Given their current basketball challenges the Big East must seem attractive to them. The devil is in the details though. They'd have to be willing to significantly up the payout to the basketball only schools to make it worthwhile. I have a healthy skepticism that they're willing to do that.
1) We get keep our existing relationships with Big East teams that we love playing;
2) We get to reunite with our wayward Big East brothers with whom we had good rivalries going back in the day;
3) We get more games against schools that value basketball like UNC and Duke;
4) We get bowl the bowl affiliations and easier scheduling of being in a P4 conference; and
5) P4 money, which in the ACC, though much much less than the P2 make, is significantly more than we currently make in the Big East.
That said, I'll believe it when the papers are signed. It makes some sense because the ACC has become the most vulnerable of the P4, so that may open up their willingness to merge. Given their current basketball challenges the Big East must seem attractive to them. The devil is in the details though. They'd have to be willing to significantly up the payout to the basketball only schools to make it worthwhile. I have a healthy skepticism that they're willing to do that.
Rick Pitino endorses Coach K’s merger proposal to create ‘mega basketball conference’
Rick Pitino supports Mike Krzyzewski’s solution for the Big East and ACC.
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Schools that jumped to the ACC from the BE went from premier high class brands to second class citizens who don't look good wearing overalls.
The top ACC teams will jump ship to the big 3 and then we are stuck with the Georgia techs and Boston colleges. Not sure how that would workout. But I like the innovative thoughts on it
We will be DePaul and Wake Forest if we give up and settle for mediocrity. Put the right people in place in the administration and we will be just fine.
I would be against this "merger". the FBall schools will be further reduced from the 50-60 or so to a more manageable 30-35 schools. RU and UConn will not be in that group, perhaps a 2nd tier as part of an expanded G-5 Group. The entire ACC will be in the 2nd tier of schools except for UNC, Fl St and Clemson.
You're not wrong that each and each is a mere shell of its former self. But they are a mere shell of themselves that makes nearly $40,000,000 in media rights distributions, plus a share of college football playoff rights money.
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Look at schedules across the country… every power conference team plays those type of opponents. Not sure what you are expecting to see in Nov/Dec
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“Certain schools will need to be left behind.” Gotta think we could be on that list.
Still think this is in the utmost speculation stage: if even there. How would ACC work non football schools into the mix? Might Villanova try to strive for ACC football mediocrity? Would the chosen bball schools (Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, St. John's) leave the others in the dust? I think so. What, then, happens to the little five? They keep the( less) valued Big East brand and add......
Not until DePaul stops being DePaul. We’re very close, but they proved that they’re still DePaul.
Arguably the basketball only schools would get what Notre Dame gets, which I've heard is 17 million a year. The question is whether ESPN would pony that up in order to take the big east from Fox.
I agree it seems more sensible to just cherry pick the schools you want. I also agree with you that I find it highly unlikely. The fact that it's being talked about though shows that the biggies is considered to be a valuable target.
You guys are having an off year, but you would have to have an off year for a couple of decades to be in the running to be "DePaul"
Notre Dame got $22 million from the ACC for the year ended 06/30/23. That includes the 5 football games they play against the ACC. Full members got approx. $45 million.
Tuesdays supposed secret meeting is not secret. It's a scheduled meeting between the ACC and ESPN to discuss ESPN's option for the media contract that expires in 2027 but must be renewed by 02/01/25.
