Looks like he was shooting a scene in a movie. Not as a joke. The gun malfunctioned and there was a tragic accident. Question is how did the gun malfunction? Just a horrible horrible tragedy. But this is no way criminal.
As Pirata said, there are strict protocols. Gross negligence seems to fit at this point rather than any criminal charges. I don't get the malfunction comment. The gun worked fine...why was there live ammo in the gun? Who put it in there? What's the procedure for double-checking (especially given that this has happened in the past?Where was the on-set supervision? Lot's of questions and accountability.
I did not know that there was a determination that it was live ammo or something malfunctioned. The article that you posted stated it was unclear of whether live ammo was placed into the gun or something else.
This will haunt him. At 13 years old I was taught to never point a gun at anyone loaded or otherwise. They may need to go back to cap guns. We don't know the whole story yet but tragic any way you look at it.
It’s not the issue though? If you were really into gun safety you would never do what he did.
I am no fan of Baldwin, but at this point I do not think it is at all clear if he did anything wrong., if others did something wrong or it was just a tragic accident.
if you knew it was a prop gun, its not an actual gun. should have been as effective as a lego gun.
I know...horrible, but as that last article states, protocol is to not even point the prop gun at someone, so neglegence on Baldwin is likely.
The quote from the props guy (from CNN article) indicated that you don't even aim the gun at the subject, but at an angle that may look like on camera. That seems like negligence right there. I agree that let the facts play out, but that part seems pretty simple.
Seems like you just want Baldwin to be found guilty of something without knowing any facts. If Baldwin is shooting a scene in a movie, guess who is not in the scene? The director and the director of photography. Those people would be behind the scenes. Now somehow one got killed and one got injured although they were not in the scene. Meaning, the person or object Baldwin was aiming at in the scene did not get hit. Seems like a lot needs to come out. But what you think is simple, Baldwin's negligence, is not simple. As a matter of fact, he may have no negligence whatsoever. Whoever was handling the prop gun would be negligent.
Sounds like you are the one jumping to conclusions. You somehow know these two people were unknowingly in the line of fire? I have already said, let’s see what the investigation shows. From what has been shared thus far, it SEEMS like he’s negligent.
More information surfacing…gun malfunctioned twice on the set, some of the crew walked off protesting unsafe conditions days before.
Every gun safety learning program tells you over and over again to never point a loaded or unloaded gun at anyone. Gun safety 101. You don’t need to point the gun at someone to get the desired effect in a movie. I bet this incident grows legs, Baldwin I’m sure is remorse but also has a history of being a hot head.
seems like ur taking it too far. if i was an actor id point a PROP gun at a person. everyone would.
i now youre really hoping baldwin gets the blame here,
www.nbcnews.com
www.latimes.com
Is the investigation over?i now youre really hoping baldwin gets the blame here,
Crew member yelled 'cold gun' as he handed Alec Baldwin prop weapon, court document shows | CNN
An assistant director handed Alec Baldwin a prop firearm and yelled "cold gun" before the actor fired the weapon, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza, according to a court document.www.cnn.com
'Rust' assistant director had a history of unsafe practices, prop maker says
"Sets were almost always allowed to become increasingly claustrophobic, no established fire lanes, exits blocked," prop maker Maggie Goll said.'Rust' crew describes on-set gun safety issues and misfires days before fatal shooting
At least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to production managers about gun safety on the set.
pretty clear he wasnt aiming the gun at the victim. if anything it sounds like hed be mroe at fault as a producer.
you got anti baldwin people saying you dont point the gun at actors... meanwhile he didnt hit an actor. sorta checks out no?
I feel terrible for Baldwin. He’s going to have to live the rest of his life knowing that he shot and killed someone.
I definitely 100% would not be able to do it. To be fair my father was a police officer and kept his guns locked up and unloaded. I was taught to be extremely careful and have taken multiple gun safety programs. As a seven year old kid I received a toy cap gun, my father took it away. He did not want me thinking any gun was a toy and it unnerved him seeing me pointing and shooting a cap gun. I ever pointed a gun at anyone including a prop gun (which I’m sure everyone realizes now is a real gun) I’m definitely on high alert in the presence of guns. Everyone should be on high alert around guns, gun accidents happen all the time. That being said feel terrible for Baldwin, I would never ever want to be in his shoes right now. This will haunt him forever a young mother is dead. To dismiss this incident as an accident and move on would be tragic in itself. Need a new set of rules or to rethink about how guns are used in a movie.
in a world of cgi and effects, why would they be using a gun that remotely could injure somebody? maybe baldwin thought it was a replica, like a toy, a gun only by looks. i mean, why else wouldnt it be??
You have to ask Hollywood that one. This has clearly been a problem as other people have been killed or injured with a prop gun. But they have opted to keep using the guns and put procedures in place to prevent accidents. What complicates things for Baldwin is that he is also the Producer, meaning the buck stops with him. If it is found that the armorer was unqualified, or that there were actually unsafe working conditions that caused staff to walk off, then he has some shared responsibility. And the guy in charge should know if they are using a real prop gun or a replica/model. If you are told you have a "cold gun" right before you use it....
