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[LeftCoastPirates]

Last year, 9 of our 12 losses were by 12+ points (12, 13, 19, 20, 18, 26, 21, 30, 19). Also why our metrics dragged.

In Year 1, 8 of our 16 losses were by 13+ points (16, 13, 26, 14, 22, 21, 13, 22).

Idk what a fair ratio or standard is but feels like a lot to me.

Agreed. Feels like a lot.

 

[P1RAT3]

this play is a carbon copy of willard tho. hard defense and roll the ball out offense. you still went to those ...

for me its not the coach. its the state of ncaa.

THIS

 

[TheHall87]

So what constitutes a blowout.

For argument sake it never feels good to lose by double digits or not take care of business vs the bottom feeders in your conference.

Just for comparative analysis I took only the Kevin Willard good years 2015-16 until he left after 2021-22. 7 years in total.

During that time we lost by double digits 26 times.

10-15 points - 13 times
16-20 points - 7 times
21-30 points - 5 times
30+ - 1 time

He also compiled a record of 22-7 vs DePaul and Georgetown during that time period.
Those two teams combined during that time in conference play to go 65-185 (.260%).
We accounted for 10% of their total wins. And remember 14 of those 65 wins came against them playing each other.

I don’t understand why everyone thinks this 7 year run was unblemished.

Seton Hall has a track record of highs and lows in every season.

Right now we are in a really bad low for the current season.

Last year, 9 of our 12 losses were by 12+ points (12, 13, 19, 20, 18, 26, 21, 30, 19). Also why our metrics dragged.

In Year 1, 8 of our 16 losses were by 13+ points (16, 13, 26, 14, 22, 21, 13, 22).

Idk what a fair ratio or standard is but feels like a lot to me.

26 double digit losses (with good teams) in seven years is a lot.

17 in two is twice that much.

 

[LeftCoastPirates]

26 double digit losses (with good teams) in seven years is a lot.

17 in two is twice that much.

Sorry now I had to do it.

Willard’s first 5 seasons has a total of 35 double digit losses.

So 61 during his tenure. About 5 a season.

And the board pretty much went off on each and every one. Even though things change, some things with our fan base never do.

I’m included in that group. No one likes getting their a** kicked.

The die hards will come here and complain, sulk, ask for change, or take the other side of the fence.

The rest of our fans stop watching, don’t show up to the arena, or find an excuse with the traffic patterns, their bedtime, or the cost of pretzels. Bottomline when things are good fans jump on the bandwagon. When times are tough we complain and everyone else checks completely out.

Right now when we need engagement to be high, we are hitting one of those points where fans have already checked out 10 games into the season. Get run out of the building on Saturday and Carino will be able to hand count the number of people at the Rock for his game recap.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Sorry now I had to do it.

Willard’s first 5 seasons has a total of 35 double digit losses.

So 61 during his tenure. About 5 a season.

And the board pretty much went off on each and every one. Even though things change, some things with our fan base never do.

I’m included in that group. No one likes getting their a** kicked.

The die hards will come here and complain, sulk, ask for change, or take the other side of the fence.

The rest of our fans stop watching, don’t show up to the arena, or find an excuse with the traffic patterns, their bedtime, or the cost of pretzels. Bottomline when things are good fans jump on the bandwagon. When times are tough we complain and everyone else checks completely out.

Right now when we need engagement to be high, we are hitting one of those points where fans have already checked out 10 games into the season. Get run out of the building on Saturday and Carino will be able to hand count the number of people at the Rock for his game recap.

One coach was hired to take us out of drought and from being a big east embarrassment. The other was hired to build on the success of making the tournament and advancing in it. To ignore that is just silly. The expectations were not the same at the start and because of the different starting points they shouldn’t even be compared. There wasn’t anyone on social media saying Kevin Willard will take seton hall to a final four.

 

[LeftCoastPirates]

One coach was hired to take us out of drought and from being a big east embarrassment. The other was hired to build on the success of making the tournament and advancing in it. To ignore that is just silly. The expectations were not the same at the start and because of the different starting points they shouldn’t even be compared. There wasn’t anyone on social media saying Kevin Willard will take seton hall to a final four.

Who was saying Shs would take us to the final four? I would like to meet this delusional fan and take them for a lot of money. 😂

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Who was saying Shs would take us to the final four? I would like to meet this delusional fan and take them for a lot of money. 😂

His name is John Fanta. I don’t have the Twitter but that tweet I do remember reading on here. Let me know how taking his money works out for you. It received more than a few likes. You might be able to take money from more delusional fans.

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